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jwhop
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posted May 25, 2021 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“All Vaccinated People Will Die Within 2 Years.”
Nobel Laureate Luc Montagnier

Luc Montagnier has confirmed that there is no chance of survival for people who have received any form of the vaccine. In the shocking interview, the world’s leading virologist stated bluntly: “There is no hope and no possible treatment for those who have already been vaccinated. We must be prepared to cremate the bodies.” The scientific genius backed up the claims of other eminent virologists after studying the ingredients of the vaccine. “They will all die from antibody-dependent enhancement. That is all that can be said.” Video link here or below.
http://coe-llc.com/2021/05/22/covid-vaccinated-people-within-2-years/

I looked into this video to first off to even see who he was…that test passed. He’s not really anyone special. Just discovered the human immunodeficiency virus also known as HIV.

Montagnier argued that the Coronavirus disease 2019 153 was man-made in a laboratory and that it might have been the result of an attempt to create a vaccine for HIV/AIDS 37. His allegation came after the United States had launched a probe into whether the virus came from a laboratory. According to Montagnier, the “presence of elements of HIV and germ of malaria in the genome of coronavirus is highly suspect and the characteristics of the virus could not have arisen naturally.”[45 504

I then looked to see if he really said it…that test passed.

I then looked to see if it was just taken out of context…it wasn’t.

I thought I’d see the stupid things the so called “fact checkers” had to offer up. Here is their razor sharp insight.

“Keep in mind, the opinion of one person does not outweigh the consensus of the scientific community.” - Snopes-

http://www.disclose.tv/t/all-vaccinated-people-will-die-within-2-yea rs-nobel-laureate-luc-montagnier/32675

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teasel
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posted May 25, 2021 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I thought it was the liberals who were crazy, and trying to lose more lives, in putting people off the vaccine. I think you owe IQ an apology, if that's no longer the case.

This is the vaccine that Trump claims to be responsible for, so is he out to kill people?

You were so sure that it was safe, when IQ and others, were warning people not to get vaccinated. What changed, other than who is President? Trump is vaccinated. So is his daughter, and his wife. I thought he wanted to run in 2024. Who will be your shining light now?

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posted May 25, 2021 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210317/trump-urges-americans-get-covid-vaccine

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-covid-vaccine-urge-safe-works/

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posted May 25, 2021 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will you die within 2 years after taking Covid vaccine? Centre busts fake news post
http://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/will-you-die-within-2-years-after-taking-covid-vaccine-centre-busts-fake-news-post/ar-AAKn3m9?ocid=uxbndlbing


ALERT: Luc Montagnier Did NOT Say Vaccine Would Kill People in Two Years - Here's What he DID Say (Video)
http://rairfoundation.com/alert-luc-montagnier-did-not-say-vaccine-would-kill-people-in-two-years-heres-what-he-did-say-video/


You and your fake news, Jwhop. He thinks the vaccines might be behind the variants out there, although I thought the first ones popped up before any vaccine was available.

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jwhop
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posted May 25, 2021 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Will you die within 2 years after taking Covid vaccine? Centre busts fake news post
http://www.msn.com/en-in/news /other/will-you-die-within-2-years-after-taking-covid-vaccine-centre-busts-fake-news-post/ar-AAKn3m9?ocid=uxbndlbing


ALERT: Luc Montagnier Did NOT Say Vaccine Would Kill People in Two Years - Here's What he DID Say (Video)
http://rairfoundation.com/alert-luc-montagnier-d id-not-say-vaccine-would-kill-people-in-two-years-heres-what-he-did-say-video/


You and your fake news, Jwhop. He thinks the vaccines might be behind the variants out there, although I thought the first ones popped up before any vaccine was available.


"The Covid-19 vaccine is completely safe."

So much for the bullshiiite you posted. We know the covid vaccines are not completely safe...and neither is any other vaccine...'completely safe'.

Further, the article I posted quotes Nobel Laureate and prominent French Virologist Luc Montagnier...DOCTOR.

What I didn't see in the article you posted is any quote from anyone with a 'MEDICAL DEGREE'.

Further, I said the story is a 'shock claim...and unverified'

Btw, more than 4,000 deaths have already been reported from covid 19 vaccinations....just in the US.

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posted May 25, 2021 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
But I thought it was the liberals who were crazy, and trying to lose more lives, in putting people off the vaccine. I think you owe IQ an apology, if that's no longer the case.

This is the vaccine that Trump claims to be responsible for, so is he out to kill people?

You were so sure that it was safe, when IQ and others, were warning people not to get vaccinated. What changed, other than who is President? Trump is vaccinated. So is his daughter, and his wife. I thought he wanted to run in 2024. Who will be your shining light now?


Thanks for refrsehing our memories Teasel!

Indeed, I was very worried why Trump of all people would push mRNA "Vaccines" when initially he was for therapeutics. Well, it looks like Big Pharma fooled both sides of the Aisle. And Not for the first time.

There are two broad schools of thought in the Scientific World right now regarding COVD19 Vaccines:
1. Do No Harm, hence avoid vaccination till tests show least risk to life from side effects.
2. Vaccinate no matter what, it is ok if less than 1% die.

There are also deeper levels of thinkers, the Dr Sucharit Bhakdis who have Immunology Experience that is unparalleled. NOw Dr Bhakdi is NOT an Anti-Vaxxer but he teaches the exact purpose of a Vaccine and how it is made etc etc. He highly recommend the Tetanus Vaccine for instance.

Yet, he shares the same concerns of Dr Luc.
The reason is that Pfzer and Moderna are NOT EVEN VACCINES.
These are advanced gene Therapies which have actually failed animal trials. And COVID19 is itself not a normal natural virus but an advanced BioWeapon that has splices of HIV, Parasites [hence Ivermectin kills it], Sars from Bats etc. There was no Zoonotic Transfer, but Wuhan Institute of Virology added certain genetic codes to create a Misidrection of Zoonotic Transfer from Bats/Pangolins.

A team of 28 Scientists named "DRASTIC" have exposed every bit of the Wuhan Skullduggery, gene by gene. And their research has also shown the dangers of the Spike Protein that the mRNA makes. This SPike weakens the p53 gene folding, the same p53 which suppresses Tumours.

Dr Luc's concern is chiefly about ADE, this is being studied too. Dr Bhakdi also explains why thrombosis will occur through the mRNA SPikes. All of this is so dangerous in the long term that these "Vaccines" should not have been approved for Below 60 population and definitely not for children.

A non mRNA Vaccine that passes all clinical trials without deadly side effects is the best course of action now, and it is upto all Nations to address this before more damage is done through untested genetic therapies.

One more thing, the comment that everyone will die in 2 years is incorrect. The fact is everyone who takes mRNA is in a much higher risk of nastie side effects than confessed to by Pfizer/Modern. But those with Auto-Immune Diseases will have much higher increased risk of death than had they just got Covid19.
I have seen documentation that more than 1500 have already died after receiving mRNA jabs.
288 in Israel alone, where B ibi is hell bent on booster shots of this infernal mRNA.


Also, the mRNA is utterly useless against Mutations like B1617 and B1618. They may claim 50% to 70% efficacy but that will be a data manipulation using the healthy immune systems of patients.

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posted May 25, 2021 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s really unsettling to see you push things like this, even though you have “unverified” in the title, so then you can say, “oh, but I didn’t say that it was true!” True gaslighting, right there.

There are people who believe that it’s true. So, if something happens to trump, it was the vaccine? If it doesn’t, it just disappears into history as another alternative fact?

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posted May 25, 2021 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
It’s really unsettling to see you push things like this, even though you have “unverified” in the title, so then you can say, “oh, but I didn’t say that it was true!” True gaslighting, right there.

There are people who believe that it’s true. So, if something happens to trump, it was the vaccine? If it doesn’t, it just disappears into history as another alternative fact?


Two of the few true things you've said here.
"I didn't say it was true". And...I did put UNVERFIED in the thread title.

But obviously, there are people who believe it's true.

I'm not a medical doctor so I don't know if it's true or not. But then, neither do you.

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VeronicaNicole
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posted May 26, 2021 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose this is one of those only time will tell situations. 🤷‍♀️ Hope it is not but tbh I wouldn't be all that surprised. I would like to be believe that there isn't some hidden agenda behind covid and the vaccine but that would be delusional and ignorant to just think this is all exactly as is told filtered through the liberal media. It definitely proves the power of suggestion to be a real thing. I have definitely found myself being influenced before.

The reality is that I don't think any of us are entirely sure of what the truth is but there is definitely something nefarious there. I do not want to fear it because what good will that do but it's only natural. Either live in LA LA land or accept there is something at work in the shadows & tread carefully.

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posted May 26, 2021 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not want to brag but 9 times out of 10 in any room if there is Computer Data Analysis going on, then I am the smartest person in the room.

And right now, seeing all the Data available so far from mechanism to side effects and pathetic efficacy against mutations, I would beg with folded hands that you and your loved ones should NOT take the mRNA "Vaccine".
If the Big Powers try to enforce a Vaccine Passport or Vaccine Permit for Financial Transactions [Vaccination Apartheid etc], please resist with all your might, try to create billion dollar lawsuits on behalf of those who died after taking the jab etc.

The only Vaccine that is safe is an "Inoculation" where a highly inactivated dead virus particle is injected to train our Antibodies to respond. Just add heavy Vitamins to diet along with this old school inoculation and this will work wonders compared to shady mRNA Tech that can destroy important genes, cause ADE, attack Mitochondria, Cause Blood Clots etc.

In India, a vast majority of doctors have taken either Astrazeneca Adenovirus type mRNA Vaccine. 513 doctors have died after vaccination since Feb 2021, mostly from COVID19 itself. These Vaccines DID NOT Protect them. So why bother to inject a useless mRNA Vaccine?


Just study the twitter timeline of Mr Walter Chestnut @parsefaler , he has clearly explained the dangers. And his views are accepted by many PhDs. Only Big Pharma shills attack the documented and published references he has used.

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posted May 27, 2021 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope his predictions are not correct. I stay away from apocalyptic thinking.

However I suspect that a high percentage of people who took the mRNA vaccines will develop auto-immune diseases, since these "vaccines" attempt to tell the immune system what it is supposed to do, therefore messing with its innate intelligence.

Auto-immune diseases do not typically show up right away. They usually take a few years to show up. That is why I would have wanted the pharmaceutical industry, the scientific community that backs it along with the government officials to wait for long term side effects studies before so aggressively pushing the vaccines on everyone including children.

ETA: the push to vaccinate children angers me to no end. What are the parents thinking that they are willing to subject their children to experimental vaccines, when there are so very few children covid casualties? I just don't get it.

I am trying to let go of my anger. I am afraid it's going to be one of those experiences humanity has to go through to learn its lesson.

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posted May 27, 2021 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Britain, the first man (he has an interesting name, William Shakespeare) to receive a covid vaccine has suddenly died of a stroke. He was 81. Hopefully it's just a coincidence and his death was due to "natural causes."

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/05/26/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-mask#william-shakespeare-covid-vaccine

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posted May 28, 2021 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
In Britain, the first man (he has an interesting name, William Shakespeare) to receive a covid vaccine has suddenly died of a stroke. He was 81. Hopefully it's just a coincidence and his death was due to "natural causes."

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/05/26/world/covid-vaccine-coro navirus-mask#william-shakespeare-covid-vaccine



Ik I read that article right after reading this. The timing of reading the two was a little close but I'm thinking this particular case might just be a coincidence, for lack of better word. Dude was 81 so his time was coming up anyway.

It was probably just that W.S. the author/poet had discovered someone was using his name & decided to put an end to it.

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Vaccine researcher admits ‘big mistake,’ says spike protein is dangerous ‘toxin’
‘Terrifying’ new research finds vaccine spike protein unexpectedly in bloodstream. The protein is linked to blood clots, heart and brain damage, and potential risks to nursing babies and fertility.
Mon May 31, 2021 - 5:22 pm EST
Celeste McGovern

May 31, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — New research shows that the coronavirus spike protein from COVID-19 vaccination unexpectedly enters the bloodstream, which is a plausible explanation for thousands of reported side-effects from blood clots and heart disease to brain damage and reproductive issues, a Canadian cancer vaccine researcher said last week.

“We made a big mistake. We didn’t realize it until now,” said Byram Bridle, a viral immunologist and associate professor at University of Guelph, Ontario, in an interview with Alex Pierson last Thursday, in which he warned listeners that his message was “scary.”

“We thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, we never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein. So by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin,” Bridle said on the show, which is not easily found in a Google search but went viral on the internet this weekend.....

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vaccine-researcher-admits-big-mis take-says-spike-protein-is-dangerous-toxin

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posted June 01, 2021 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. scary. Let me do my own research.

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posted June 02, 2021 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The vaccines are safe, according to jwhop.

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posted June 02, 2021 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People are misinformed. A vaccine that works for a bigger organism such as bacteria found in Tetanus, may not be effective with much much smaller virus particles and which also exhibits natural mechanisms to mutate every time it faces extinction. That is the reason, I did not take the vaccine. I don't want to be latched on to big pharma going forward. Bill Gates is against releasing patents worldwide. They want to rule the world or whatever remains of it.
People die of the common cold virus even today. Perhaps no patent exists. We are going back to basics. Eat organic, eat green, sustain the environment. Time to make the earth blue and green once again.

Some humans may develop antibodies in several years , perhaps never as in the Movie Prometheus. Any one watch Prometheus? It is a movie for this time for creatures who go in search of their creator?


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