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teasel
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posted June 16, 2021 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Watch a Never-Before-Aired James Baldwin Interview From 1979

Buried by ABC at the time, the segment reveals a unique glimpse into Baldwin’s private life—as well as his resounding criticism about white fragility, as blisteringly relevant today as it was in 1979.

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posted June 16, 2021 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating. James Baldwin always had a way with words.

I have a question for you, teasel. Are you fragile? After all... you are white.

Or are you the exception, the unicorn, the non-fragile white?

I am kinda curious on how you see yourself.

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posted June 17, 2021 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Fascinating. James Baldwin always had a way with words.

Indeed. I enjoying listening to that nimble mind even when I vehemently disagree with it.

It's curious to watch him suggest "white people think this, what people do that" with a white woman sitting next to him. (while she happily nods along) Why not simply say "you think this, you think that'?
Racial assumptions are always more easily directed at the collective then they are at the individual. Honestly, listening to one race's take on another is always interesting to me.
Also, despite the typical clickbait headline, does anyone honestly believe that the average white person today is terrified at the thought of being black? On the contrary. Conversely, are black people still in the habit of 'passing' when possible? Hardly. Times have in fact changed


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posted June 17, 2021 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a question for teasel as well.

teasel have you read any Baldwin? What did you think of it?

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Belage
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posted June 17, 2021 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
Indeed. I enjoying listening to that nimble mind even when I vehemently disagree with it.

It's curious to watch him suggest "white people think this, what people do that" with a white woman sitting next to him. (while she happily nods along) Why not simply say "you think this, you think that'?
Racial assumptions are always more easily directed at the collective then they are at the individual. Honestly, listening to one race's take on another is always interesting to me.
Also, despite the typical clickbait headline, does anyone honestly believe that the average white person today is terrified at the thought of being black? On the contrary. Conversely, are black people still in the habit of 'passing' when possible? Hardly. Times have in fact changed


Baldwin is a product of his experiences of racism, and growing up at the time that he was growing up. He can talk the way he does about white people, though I find it cringy as he is not a psychoanalist, nor is a social scientist. He states his opinions, but people are somewhat taking them as irrefutable statements of facts coming from a social scientist... He is just a talented literary writer, That is all.

But when I hear someone like Barack Obama holding the same language after he managed to be POTUS not just once but twice, I want to ask him, Barack, who oppressed you, who held you down? We want names!

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