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Randall
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posted September 15, 2021 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Historically, the opposing party of the WH gains around 20 seats. With Sock Puppet Biden being such an abject failure, it should be way more than that. However, Republicans only need 5 seats in the House and 1 seat in the Senate.

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posted September 15, 2021 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the ill advised abortion restriction to the 6th week movement among republicans, I don't think the Republicans will take control in 2022.

6 weeks is just not realistic for many women. Maybe 3 months could spawn some much needed discussion and debate, but 6 weeks, nah sir.

Republicans shot themselves in the foot with that one.

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posted September 15, 2021 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Covid mandates and a police state vs. abortion. We shall see.

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posted September 16, 2021 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reptillians want more population for labor and military hence their strict policies. Democrats wants to control scientifically the growth and for everyone to enjoy the planet and resources with responsibility

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posted September 16, 2021 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Covid mandates and a police state vs. abortion. We shall see.

The abortion issue can mobilize most women, and women constitute half of the electorate, so dismissing its importance is not smart.

The antidote against our current tyranny is not conservatism but enlightened libertarianism. This country was founded by people who were freeing themselves from systematic tyranny. They were not trying to be conservative. They wanted to live a life of FREEDOM. That is why the very first amendment in the Bills of Rights list the essential liberties that we all value, but that have been trampled on these past 2 years.

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posted September 16, 2021 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not identify as a conservative.

I don't believe in giving businesses free reins to do whatever the heck they want. Right now, many business want to impose vaccines on their workers. Is that right? I don't believe in giving business free rein to dump toxic waste on the environment and communities. I believe there should be regulations against that stuff.

I don't believe all unions are bad. Right now, some unions are fighting for the right of their members to opt out of vaccine. That's a good thing.

We are fighting for the soul of the nation and the principles on which it was founded, a nation founded on the respect of essential liberties as listed in the first amendment, which is FIRST for a reason.

The right to abortion could arguable be part of the exercise of personal liberty. You don't like a woman's decision to abort, fine, but making laws to unilaterally limit it without some kind of national consensus is foolish at best and does not respect the spirit of the constitution.

Unfortunately, this is a blind spot with conservatives, and they are going to stay losing.

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posted September 16, 2021 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps, because you are not a conservative, you are lumping all women together. Therefore, you can't say that 50 percent of the electorate are going to vote against Republican candidates simply because they have a vagina. Most conservative women are celebrating the Texas law as a win for the rights of the unborn. That being said, the issue should be decided by the states. Since you mentioned the Constitution, and in partiocular, the Bill of Rights, there should be no taking of life without due process of law.

It's not about businesses being free to do anything they want. It's about federalism and government overreach.

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posted September 16, 2021 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Perhaps, because you are not a conservative, you are lumping all women together. Therefore, you can't say that 50 percent of the electorate are going to vote against Republican candidates simply because they have a vagina. Most conservative women are celebrating the Texas law as a win for the rights of the unborn. That being said, the issue should be decided by the states. Since you mentioned the Constitution, and in partiocular, the Bill of Rights, there should be no taking of life without due process of law.

It's not about businesses being free to do anything they want. It's about federalism and government overreach.


The Constitution confers/delegates no power to the federal government to oversee the health of citizens of the states.

10th Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


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posted September 16, 2021 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Perhaps, because you are not a conservative, you are lumping all women together. Therefore, you can't say that 50 percent of the electorate are going to vote against Republican candidates simply because they have a vagina. Most conservative women are celebrating the Texas law as a win for the rights of the unborn. That being said, the issue should be decided by the states. Since you mentioned the Constitution, and in partiocular, the Bill of Rights, there should be no taking of life without due process of law.

It's not about businesses being free to do anything they want. It's about federalism and government overreach.


I honestly don't believe all this legal wrangling will influence the visceral opinions of the majority of women in this country who happen to support the right to choose even if they disagree with abortion personally. And they will vote accordingly.

The democrats understand that, and they will shamelessly use this issue to stay in power.

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posted September 16, 2021 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saving this country and whatever is left of our essential liberties is truly not a fight between conservatism and progressivism.

when Facebook and Twitter deplatform someone whose opinion they don't like, it could be argued from a conservative point of view that they have the right to do so, as businesses they can do whatever they want.

When businesses want to fire someone who won't take the jab, from a conservative point of view it could be argue that they have the right to do so, that people are employed at will and if they don't like the company policy, they can just leave.

Interestingly enough, the above conservative talking points are being used by the democrats/progressists to further their tyranical agenda, proving that this is not truly a conservative vs liberal ideology fight we are truly dealing with.

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posted September 16, 2021 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Saving this country and whatever is left of our essential liberties is truly not a fight between conservatism and progressivism.

when Facebook and Twitter deplatform someone whose opinion they don't like, it could be argued from a conservative point of view that they have the right to do so, as businesses they can do whatever they want.

When businesses want to fire someone who won't take the jab, from a conservative point of view it could be argue that they have the right to do so, that people are employed at will and if they don't like the company policy, they can just leave.

Interestingly enough, the above conservative talking points are being used by the democrats/progressists to further their tyranical agenda, proving that this is not truly a conservative vs liberal ideology fight we are truly dealing with.


You are conflating "conservative talking points" with the law. Deplatforming IS allowed for now, but these businesses are not acting as mere "publishers," so they should lose their immunity from lawsuits by doing so. At will employers can terminate employment for any reason or for no reason at all; however, they cannot fire someone unlawfully, i.e., if the termination violates an employment contract, if it goes against a union agreement, or if it is racially motivated or otherwise discriminatory. If employees inform employers that such a mandate violates their sincerely held religious beliefs, then they are free to fire them at their own financial peril. These are not merely conservative talking points.

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posted September 16, 2021 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again and again and again.... you can't vote your way out of this. You're bleeding the numbers necessary.

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posted September 16, 2021 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
De platforming people for viewpoints they don't like while at the same time, taking instructions/orders to do so from government agencies, legislators or government individuals make the de-platforming illegal.

Government cannot act through 2nd or 3rd parties to do what would be illegal if government did it directly. Government cannot curtail constitutional rights by acting through non-government entities...which is what the Biden administration is doing.

I'm expecting republicans to pick up 60 House seats and 5 Senate seats in the 2022 elections. Thanks Joe Biden.

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posted September 16, 2021 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Jwhop! I had completely forgotten about the government doing through these social media companies what it canít do on its own, making them agents of the federal government. Psaki proudly admitted to an organized plan to do so.

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posted September 16, 2021 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The use of conservative talking points to advance the democrats/globalists agenda may be illegal and even unconstitutional, but it is happening, those companies are doing it without major consequences for them, and looking at you like, whatcha gonna do? Basically, might is right. And it is blurring the lines between conservative and progressive ideologies and demonstrating that this is not what the fight is about.

My body my choice has long been a liberal/democrat/progressive talking point. And we see how quickly these groups are abandoning this viewpoint when it comes vaccine, while it is being embraced by a lot of people on the other side.

That is why we need to stop looking at the fight for the soul of this country through the narrow frame of conservatism vs progressivism. The issue is much bigger than that.

I am just the messenger.

We shall see in 2022.

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posted September 16, 2021 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Randall, with so much crap going on for the last 9 months, it's hard to keep it all on the front burner.

@Belage

"The use of conservative talking points to advance the democrats/globalists agenda may be illegal and even unconstitutional, but it is happening, those companies are doing it without major consequences for them, and looking at you like, whatcha gonna do?

Right you are. Social media companies have bought the Congress, some or many republicans too.

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