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Belage
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posted December 13, 2021 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a brand new study that came out a couple of days ago. Not to be confused with the previous study that came out months ago. By natural immunity, it is meant here immunity conferred by prior infection.

Study Finds Natural Immunity Gives 6X Protection Versus Shots; 80% Less Severe Cases

https://youtu.be/kl_J9f3lvgs[

Disclaimer: Though I have found the material on this channel to be very informative and true in the past, but I have not personally looked at the data and study this video quotes. But I plan on doing so when I have a chance.

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Belage
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posted December 13, 2021 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before anyone calls this study biased and anti vax, the study did find that:

-*- Natural immunity wanes with time, though not as much as vaccine immunity.

-*- That those who were previously infected and had natural immunity and got the shots had overall the best immunity of all.

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Belage
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posted December 13, 2021 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one of the comments under the YouTube video states:

quote:
Renee Greene
1 hour ago
I love Facts Matter and have been watching it from its start, and up until now, I have not caught a big error. However, today the graph on the effectiveness on the natural immunity verses the "vaccine" immunity verses the hybrid immunity was misread. Roman read the bars assuming that the bars in each graph correlated, but they don't. Look at the increments on the Y-axis (left side), and you will see that they are not the same for the various graphs. If the 4-6 month bar for each graph is actually compared, the natural immunity actually does better than the hybrid, and if the 6-8 month bars are compared (which he didn't catch), the natural immunity does better too (which he did say, but compared bars of different intervals). Notice the second two graphs don't go to 12+ months and the natural immunity doesn't have a 0-2 month range. This is a common ploy by people who are trying to manipulate the viewer, so it is something to always watch for. There are various ways graphs can be manipulated. Always watch that the increments start at zero and are evenly spaced and the same on the comparing graphs.

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HeavenlyLove
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posted December 14, 2021 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Belage for the encouraging news (specially for us with our natural immunity) and your thorough and realistic approach, specially by copying that viewer's comment into your last post.

Always thankful for your research. 🌲🔔

Btw we are thinking about getting a booster/enlongment for our natural immunity
by asking somebody with covid to infect us once more.
We migbt want to do that soon, because we have still strong natural immunity now,
and if we wait, the new infection might become severe again.
And before pregnancy (not me) it could be helpful to have long lasting immunity...

Don't quote please, I might want to remove this last idea. 🤷

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Belage
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posted December 14, 2021 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ you and I are eye to eye.

I have considered being "boosted" again through someone who has covid, but I might wait a year for that.

On this subject, here is an interesting comment under the video.


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Jinjerella
16 hours ago
If you're not being re-exposed then your antibody levels are going to decrease until you are exposed again. That's just common sense. I still see absolutely no reason to get involved with the vaccine merry-go-round because I have natural immunity which lasts for years not months. The natural immunity also works against variants while it seems a little sketchy with the vaccines.

For that matter, reading the comments under the video is very instructive. Some of them make me go out and research their statements and I actually learn more.

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PhoenixRising
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posted December 14, 2021 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is useless to argue. After the Mayan 2012 checkpoint , each one has a greater say in creating their experience. The experience is what they create for them individually. If they desire to slow down to help earth, and if they believe vaccine shouldn't work, it will not and many will die. If they believe it will, work, then it will work and protect them and the world. The most triumphant will be the victorious group. Some groups are not happy with the ways of the old and want a change. You cannot repeat the same things of the old and expect a different outcome.

Learn lessons of Trinity in the church that you attend. The first two points are Positive and Negative. The third one is your center, from which you stand and make a decision to influence your beliefs. When you add all those up determines what reality the group lives in.

The vaccine in themselves is not poison . Science has proven it. It has become a political issue. So I won't take a stand.

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