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iQ
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posted December 28, 2021 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why is Trump supporting Pfizer/Moderna Jabs and Boosters? Many Pro-Trump analysts are shocked or even angry but some say this is to win over Independents for 2024.
What do others here think about this?

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posted December 28, 2021 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know and I don't like it.
I prefer Ron DeSantis. He holds the line and doesn't waver.

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posted December 28, 2021 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Trump was duped like we all were. We need to stop calling these vaccines. I’m not sure how many Independents support the Covid shots, but I would imagine that it’s a good percentage that do so but do not support mandates. President Trump has repeatedly said there should be no mandates. Of course, Biden said the same thing, but like all his promises, he reneged on it.

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posted December 28, 2021 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dee:
I don't know and I don't like it.
I prefer Ron DeSantis. He holds the line and doesn't waver.

Hello Dee. On the subject of covid 19, how does Governor DeSantis differ from Trump?

The normal shot’: No COVID-19 booster vaccine for Ron DeSantis
A.G. Gancarski
December 19, 20215

The Governor had the single shot J&J COVID-19 vaccine in the spring....

...Gov. Ron DeSantis suggested he had not received a COVID-19 booster shot.
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/481276-ron-desantis-booster/

Ron DeSantis urges Floridians to get vaccinated despite leading anti-lockdown efforts
Graig Graziosi
July 21, 2021

http://news.yahoo.com/ron-desantis-urges-floridians-vaccinated-192621690.html

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posted December 28, 2021 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The vaccines were produced under the Warp Speed program promoted by the Trump admin and were ready for mass consumption under the Trump admin.

That is why I never understood the media associating vaccine hesitancy with Trump and blaming Trump for it.

The vaccines and the boosters are there for those who want it. That's the operative word, those who WANT it. It can be promoted, but it should never be forced on people. Should never be mandated on essential workers or anyone for that matter. That is the crux of the vaccine issue.

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posted December 28, 2021 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, actually I do understand the vaccine hesitancy being associated with Trump and Trumpism.

This was a clever political smoke and mirror blame tactic to stereotype the vaccine hesitants and thus demonize them; and corral the people with TDS into supporting the vaccine and all sorts of vaccine mandates.

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posted December 28, 2021 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what to think of anyone anymore tbh IQ, everyone has changed in some way from this inhumane agenda.

From day1 I saw through this as I did in two thousand and ONE.
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I wasn't a T supporter; however as a leader I saw him as far more American than the sleeper we see now.

I'll say I have heard about his alignment to the jabs recently. Also earlier he was following the iverme-n approach. Yet began not far back saying to be jabbed. I only got this second hand. Never heard him say it for myself.

I HAVE however heard several inside types step up and say he was/is behind removing the supplies of "bad" doses. It seems he is actually still the true POTUS and the the military are in his favor. (Apparently 1/6 or seven he's going to make a speech)
This, jab biz has to do with a speech he made with military as his backing. I need to relocate that to watch again.. the story I'm getting now is he's been covert about getting the poisons (bad mix jabs) away from us and had the one's that are
more like saline shots in replacement.
When we had that stuck cargo ship I think it was Evergreen, there was rumour those were bad ones on that shipment, he had his inside team derail those deliveries to the hands of the DOSERS. Idk. It makes sense but remains difficult to prove either way.


As well we have so many cargo ships ww, I believe still stuck. Maybe I'm wrong.

I am not a blind faith type but there is some faith I have in T. To me this is a Spiritual battle which he knows,he spoke 3/2020 at his podium " an invisible .. " he was cluing the ppl in who knew and tried red pilling those unknowing. The ppl needed to read between the lines - A LOST ART to too many Americans who live to *follow bad memes/thoughts/philosophies* which were black budget type movements. Orchestrated, script formulas to provoke the NPC types to be tools against humanity.
The programming had taken over too much of our nation so it was likely (then) a fool's errand for him to attempt it. Which if he was truly doing so - that would prove his CARE in the people was/is genuine. Anyway sadly YES, we've had too many sad stories re these jabs.


It seems we all were required to rise against this tyrany but the many were rigid to stay on program paths. In fact not only driving them but putting them in the hands of dangerous one's that I can only say is like the Patty Hearst scenario of "Stockholm syndrome". They trusted and many still do, those in which mean them harm.

They disbelieve anyone trying to tell them this - watch a certain LL person come here and argue anything against the indoctrination/programming. Even seething hatred for T still. There are many The programming is solid. There are def many OTHERS that were previously believing of the media versions, that are seeing this abuse on themselves and loved ones, so sad many are because their children have been pulled in and harmed. It is sad on too many levels.


True Propaganda is used a lot now - it is after all legal. I think thanks to Barry - PT1 Of the JB nightmare. The formula was set up so perfectly. Wasn't his line "The pen is mightier .." .. As well look at history BLM scrubbed via their "love" movements where ruining our statues etc. Could anyone get away with doing such things in GA? Where those two slabs blatantly say the population must severely be reduced by those in charge? Hmmm guess the movements are about helping the huge cull and until they see it come for them, they'll never believe anything.


I used to in my 20s think like many of them. So happy I am not that way now. An ignorant person (as I was) will believe they know all and have no room to learn more or slant the lighting to other perspectives, yet the one(s) always learning, perpetual hunger to understand, learn and perceive will not be ignorant. Ignorance is what is taking lives imo.
We need that programming broken but enough of those in bliss need to start questioning Why are you on the other side so against "Our agenda"? The left side, leaning generally are the enforcers. In Star Wars, looking at this in parallel, The FORCE was not humane - in today's reality of this theme - the one's FORCING this issue to place ppl in tyranny (camps, house arrest, tests, shots - everything) are THE FORCE.


Darth Vader BECAME DV - He was first Anakin, a good person. HUMANE. His switch was at it's beginning when he murdered younglings. At what point does one not see they are aligned with evil?


I'm done for now. Sorry IQ .. it is hard to bite the tongue. I do sometimes believe it or not and need practice to more possibly but there's still time to speak so .. my voice is not silent - yet!

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posted December 28, 2021 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Hello Dee. On the subject of covid 19, how does Governor DeSantis differ from Trump?

[b]The normal shot’: No COVID-19 booster vaccine for Ron DeSantis
A.G. Gancarski
December 19, 20215

The Governor had the single shot J&J COVID-19 vaccine in the spring....

...Gov. Ron DeSantis suggested he had not received a COVID-19 booster shot.
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/481276-ron-desantis-booster/

Ron DeSantis urges Floridians to get vaccinated despite leading anti-lockdown efforts
Graig Graziosi
July 21, 2021

http://news.yahoo.com/ron-desantis-urges-floridians-vaccinated-192621690.html [/B]


For me it's because at first Trump supported using hydroxychloroquine and other therapies.
Now that he's got the vaccine he's telling his supporters to get vaxed also.

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posted December 28, 2021 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@MoonMystic
I don't know what to think about anyone anymore either

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posted December 28, 2021 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great analogy! Anakin made several bad decisions, but we saw it from his perspective. We saw how he thought he was the good guy, and we could even picture ourselves doing the same things. Until he killed those younglings.

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posted December 28, 2021 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I expect Trump to side with the government and politicians when it comes to vaxx. After all he is made of the same fabric as they are. I got a call from my employer to update my vacc records. She left a voicemail saying its a mandate. WTF? Hope Biden makes amendments to his stance. People die all the time and infact, the world needs to constraint because of the coming saturn age. We had our time of expansion and hope and spiritualism. We were too attached to the matter and gave importance to the mind than the heart in all those years in my opinion,


We already discovered Uranus the true ruler of aqua. He is the antichrist.. There will be some relief for us say in the field of science and vaxx in particular with the help of outside contact (If it happens). Future is always not written in the stone. The elitist follow the game of sun, planets and moon and they achieve what they want that way. Surely, the moon impacts everyone . The further it goes away from the earth and in few years it will . The reproductive system of humans will change forever.

After few hundred years of a innovative Uranus rulership will come total Saturn dominance of the age. The jews will get their messiah. The christians got their messiah (ruler of Pisces =Jupiter). The christians got JEsus. Now there is time for the Jews and sAturn/satan worshippers to get theirs. When saturn dominates which it is destined to for half of Aqua age and the whole of capricorn age. Hahahah...I have rethought my reality and this version of truth makes complete sense.

People have few hundred years to wake up and decide the future they want to live in. Hope I am helping you chose wisely.

They even pierced Jesus as he was on the cross. Pierce = vaccine. But he was dead so doesn't matter. Perhaps we should die too. But die to the external world perhaps and they we are born twice to the spirit world. Everything is happening as it should. I Wouldn't change anything. You can't hurry your awakening time.


Love

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posted December 28, 2021 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep dreaming if you think Biden will change his stance on mandates--despite promising there would never be one.

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iQ
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posted December 29, 2021 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that post from your heart MoonMystic!
So much to meditate on.
Millions of lives at stake, especially of children.

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The earth is an experiment for the above beings. As above so below. They fight above all the time and haven't still figured out how to integrate so that we can together experience the source.

And we on earth, as we resolve ourissues , they learn from us. Hence Trump is not right to marginalize China. With understanding and love any enemy can be won over . The solution we come up with should be all encompassing. Just as there are many races above, we do have many here on earth.

Also America is blessed than any other nation such as Russia or China or Germany because we serve as model of unity in harmony for the above. No one they say it is blessed to be born here. We will show them how its done. Superstition serves no one. Magic is back in fashion . What you feel is more important than what you think. There are geniuses above who has much to offer when it comes to science, but the third density (son of the christian trinity, is the form) and our experiences are rich and deep and many above learn from us. No wonder we have so many channelled beings who are interested in our progress and evolution.

Love.


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posted December 29, 2021 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, he does! Probably the one good thing he’s done.

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posted December 29, 2021 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dee:
I don't know and I don't like it.
I prefer Ron DeSantis. He holds the line and doesn't waver.

DeathSantis.

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posted December 29, 2021 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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President Trump was duped like we all were. We need to stop calling these vaccines. I’m not sure how many Independents support the Covid shots, but I would imagine that it’s a good percentage that do so but do not support mandates. President Trump has repeatedly said there should be no mandates. Of course, Biden said the same thing, but like all his promises, he reneged on it.

No, he wasn’t. And he wants credit for the vaccine.

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posted December 29, 2021 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Well, actually I do understand the vaccine hesitancy being associated with Trump and Trumpism.

This was a clever political smoke and mirror blame tactic to stereotype the vaccine hesitants and thus demonize them; and corral the people with TDS into supporting the vaccine and all sorts of vaccine mandates.


No, it was because so many republicans politicized it, and decided that going against the vaccine, was also going against “Brandon”.

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posted December 29, 2021 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I'm not sure what to think of anyone anymore tbh IQ, everyone has changed in some way from this inhumane agenda.

From day1 I saw through this as I did in two thousand and ONE.
.
I wasn't a T supporter; however as a leader I saw him as far more American than the sleeper we see now.

I'll say I have heard about his alignment to the jabs recently. Also earlier he was following the iverme-n approach. Yet began not far back saying to be jabbed. I only got this second hand. Never heard him say it for myself.

I HAVE however heard several inside types step up and say he was/is behind removing the supplies of "bad" doses. It seems he is actually still the true POTUS and the the military are in his favor. (Apparently 1/6 or seven he's going to make a speech)
This, jab biz has to do with a speech he made with military as his backing. I need to relocate that to watch again.. the story I'm getting now is he's been covert about getting the poisons (bad mix jabs) away from us and had the one's that are
more like saline shots in replacement.
When we had that stuck cargo ship I think it was Evergreen, there was rumour those were bad ones on that shipment, he had his inside team derail those deliveries to the hands of the DOSERS. Idk. It makes sense but remains difficult to prove either way.


As well we have so many cargo ships ww, I believe still stuck. Maybe I'm wrong.

I am not a blind faith type but there is some faith I have in T. To me this is a Spiritual battle which he knows,he spoke 3/2020 at his podium " an invisible .. " he was cluing the ppl in who knew and tried red pilling those unknowing. The ppl needed to read between the lines - A LOST ART to too many Americans who live to *follow bad memes/thoughts/philosophies* which were black budget type movements. Orchestrated, script formulas to provoke the NPC types to be tools against humanity.
The programming had taken over too much of our nation so it was likely (then) a fool's errand for him to attempt it. Which if he was truly doing so - that would prove his CARE in the people was/is genuine. Anyway sadly YES, we've had too many sad stories re these jabs.


It seems we all were required to rise against this tyrany but the many were rigid to stay on program paths. In fact not only driving them but putting them in the hands of dangerous one's that I can only say is like the Patty Hearst scenario of "Stockholm syndrome". They trusted and many still do, those in which mean them harm.

They disbelieve anyone trying to tell them this - watch a certain LL person come here and argue anything against the indoctrination/programming. Even seething hatred for T still. There are many The programming is solid. There are def many OTHERS that were previously believing of the media versions, that are seeing this abuse on themselves and loved ones, so sad many are because their children have been pulled in and harmed. It is sad on too many levels.


True Propaganda is used a lot now - it is after all legal. I think thanks to Barry - PT1 Of the JB nightmare. The formula was set up so perfectly. Wasn't his line "The pen is mightier .." .. As well look at history BLM scrubbed via their "love" movements where ruining our statues etc. Could anyone get away with doing such things in GA? Where those two slabs blatantly say the population must severely be reduced by those in charge? Hmmm guess the movements are about helping the huge cull and until they see it come for them, they'll never believe anything.


I used to in my 20s think like many of them. So happy I am not that way now. An ignorant person (as I was) will believe they know all and have no room to learn more or slant the lighting to other perspectives, yet the one(s) always learning, perpetual hunger to understand, learn and perceive will not be ignorant. Ignorance is what is taking lives imo.
We need that programming broken but enough of those in bliss need to start questioning Why are you on the other side so against "Our agenda"? The left side, leaning generally are the enforcers. In Star Wars, looking at this in parallel, The FORCE was not humane - in today's reality of this theme - the one's FORCING this issue to place ppl in tyranny (camps, house arrest, tests, shots - everything) are THE FORCE.


Darth Vader BECAME DV - He was first Anakin, a good person. HUMANE. His switch was at it's beginning when he murdered younglings. At what point does one not see they are aligned with evil?


I'm done for now. Sorry IQ .. it is hard to bite the tongue. I do sometimes believe it or not and need practice to more possibly but there's still time to speak so .. my voice is not silent - yet!


Moon, he is NOT the president, and the concern about J&J was there from the beginning - if that’s the “bad” one you’re talking about. Otherwise, we all got the same vaccines, no chips or anything. I mean, now we have one company in Sweden, suggesting that people have their health status carted in a chip. I thought that was supposed to already be in us?? According to conspiracy theories.

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“A certain person”. Hello! And it isn’t seething hatred. At least have the guts to use my name, if you’re going to try to implicate me in something. In the meantime, I’m still waiting to hear if an aunt is going to come off a ventilator, or die.

You could really start questioning what you’ve been believing, and the agenda you’ve been pushing.

By the way: seething hatred = the “lock her up” crowd, that are still pushing for Hillary to be in prison, or worse, and are still living in fear of her becoming president in the same alternative way that some are hoping trump will make it back into the White House. But that’s okay and understandable, because they back up whatever you say.

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posted December 29, 2021 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@MoonMystic
I don't know what to think about anyone anymore either

Welcome to the club.

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posted December 29, 2021 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks for that post from your heart MoonMystic!
So much to meditate on.
Millions of lives at stake, especially of children.

You mean the ones filling up ICU’s? They have Covid. Could end up with long-Covid.

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posted December 29, 2021 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Great analogy! Anakin made several bad decisions, but we saw it from his perspective. We saw how he thought he was the good guy, and we could even picture ourselves doing the same things. Until he killed those younglings.

I can’t roll my eyes anymore. I love seeing all of the excuses for someone you’ve worshipped, as you continue to push conspiracy theories, in order to try to hurt Biden’s presidency.

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posted December 29, 2021 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, he does! Probably the one good thing he’s done.

What are you talking about?

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posted December 29, 2021 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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DeathSantis.

Florida has the lowest deaths in the nation. You must mean DeathBiden, since his deaths now far exceed those under President Trump, and Biden has the vaccines and therapeutics.

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