posted January 06, 2022 03:02 PM            

Watched some of the video--the logic seems to be all over the place--he notes that initially Trump spoke very strongly in a very negative/critical way about whistleblowers like Snowden and said they are traitors and should be shot. But then later, in a self serving way and context, praised Assange (because of things like wikileaks talking critically about Clinton). A true politician in others words, no real center, convictions, or ideals, but changes on a dime depending on the convenience to himself.

I'm pretty sensitive to people's vibe and body language. Two things to note, immediately found this guys voice very grating/irritating for some reason. Also, he goes a long time in between blinks. I've noticed that this is a common trait among people that are in or near the ASPD spectrum. I suspect that media people do try to train themselves to blink less, but if this is training and acting in this area, this guy needs a golden globe award, because it is fairly pronounced. I blink like 3x's more than him within a given time frame and I don't have any eye issues or the like.

It's funny how people are looking for saviors among politicians and/or the unusually wealthy. And yet, the man Yeshua, a true savior, was considered by many during his time to be a homeless bum type i.e. the exact opposite of people in these two categories. But humans don't ever seem to learn.

posted January 06, 2022 03:18 PM            

The video is really worth watching in its entirety till the end, because Greenwald ties things together even though it seems confusing at first. Toward the end, you will see clips of the interview with Candace Owen where she asked him questions about his decision not to pardon, and his body language throughout was quite interesting. At first open, then closed off.

On a personal level, Trump not pardoning Snowden and/or Assange was really disheartening to me.

posted January 06, 2022 03:31 PM            

Since you brought astrology into this thread, I will give you my astrological insight.

I do not quite agree with your analysis of Trump's chart. People focus a lot on his flashy Leo Mars conjunct his ascendant. But one of the strongest and most striking points of his chart is his Sun, Uranus and North Node stellium conjunction in Gemini which give him outstanding intuition.

posted January 06, 2022 03:55 PM            

There is no singular condition stronger than a Planet closely conjunct the Asc--it can flavor and even overwhelm the entire whole chart. Mars is the most narcissistic symbol and energy there is--it is pure red energy. It certainly doesn't help that the Asc and Mars are also in Leo--which in an archetypal sense is like a yellowish tinged orange color (aka "high orange"), and moderately self focused by itself.

Then Saturn is quite strong, along with Uranus. Uranus is not nearly as positive as people in the astrological community make it out to be. It is the Planet of extremes and flip flopping back and forth between them. It has a very selfish and callous side, and especially so in the context of all this Mars and Saturn underlying it, with all that personal Sign highlighting (i.e. very strong emphasis on Gemini and Cancer).

If I were to make up an astrological cookbook and I wanted to give an example of a good chart that would correlate with malignant narcissism really well--well Trump's would be a great, classic, textbook example. Far too much Mars, Fire, Saturn, and personal sign focus in combo meanwhile lacking highlighting on all the empathy, connection oriented symbols like planetary Venus, Neptune, and Jupiter.

Btw, there are some in the larger astro community that consider Uranus to be more in the "malefic" category with Mars and Saturn than not. I wouldn't go quite that far, since Uranus can also have and show a faster vibratory side--especially in combo with other symbols that are mid to faster vibratory in a consistent way (i.e. Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Sun).

But at psychic, energetic level, just tuning into him, how you not feel that massive, babyish ego? It fairly oozes out of him. I don't need astrology to confirm this, but it certainly does. He's just a walking talking ego. He received some very intense heart wounds in childhood and in combo with being a younger soul and never healing those heart wounds, has only grown more and more callous, self serving and self focused. It's why everything is about "winning", being "better" than others, not being "losers", huge focus on material stuff such as things, money, and status.

Spiritually, he is a child, and is a bit of a mild to moderate "anti Christ" (I don't mean this in an Evangelical, extreme, or ultimate sense that some use it, but if we use Christ as a symbol of Universal Love, Oneness, Yeshua type consciousness, humility, kindness, filled with fruits of the Spirit, etc he is quite far from it. Not quite 180 like a psychopath or sociopath, but not far either). Like I said, a walking, talking, over sized, wounded/insecure ego.

posted January 06, 2022 04:16 PM            

Oh well. I was trying to say it is very unsettling the amount of energy put out to hate. Speaking so low of an individual that has no merit in OUR paradigm at all. DJT is a private citizen. The negative energy does none any good. Especially SELF. It mostly inflicts the one in which is feeling these contempt emotions. I think the LL ones are more evolved than THAT?! Aren't they?
I hope so. This is meant for the comments made.

@GCE, Everytime I pull on him, he's def the Emperor. Which a young ego can be depicted there yet a masterful architect, leader as well. This is my middle road opinion, seeing of the picture.

posted January 06, 2022 04:25 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Randall:
President Trump told the protesters to stay peaceful. What part of “peacefully” march to the Capital do you not understand?

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posted January 06, 2022 04:32 PM            

I think anyone who is going to rise to the rank of presidency must have a substantial dose of narcissism or they will not make it nor will they be able to sustain the pressure one encounter while at the top. So it is a given that anyone who is or has been president or at the helm of a country is a narcissist in some ways.

As far as it being malignant narcissism, I am not convinced in the case of Trump. Mars in Leo is flashy, but not necessarily malignant. In his chart, Saturn makes no significant aspect to it. Neither does his Pluto - I don't consider a 16 degree orb conjunction significant.

Uranus is not all bad. Uranus is the Liberator. Where it is located, it urges the native to follow its own path and not be constricted by tradition. Is it any wonder that this man who was born with a silver spoon. made himself known in the hospitality/hotel industry, then on TV, would surprise everyone and enter politics and become a populist president? Not if you see that he has Uranus conjunct North Node and Sun. That is why his base loved him, he could not be constrained by Deep State, and that is why Deep State HATED him, they couldn't control him.

He also has Jupiter in Libra trine his North Node, Sun and Uranus stellium. Which further disproves the malignant theory.

He has Mercury in Cancer square Neptune in Libra. Yes, that can create delusion in thinking, and also can make for lies and distortion of reality but malignancy?

posted January 06, 2022 04:36 PM            

Venus retrograde in Capricorn is hitting by opposition his sensitive Saturn and Venus conjunction in Cancer. While Pluto in Capricorn is still messing with them.

And with the upcoming conjunction of Jupiter and Neptune in Pisces in April 2022 squaring his stellium, I think he will realize it is better he sits out politics.

posted January 06, 2022 10:24 PM            

A good leader has a developed, healthy, strong but not overly strong ego, so yes, they can deal with challenges, stress, etc, but that needs to be counter balanced by empathy, spiritual sensitivity, compassion, and other more Yin/feminine or faster vibratory attunemnt. Folks like George Washington, Lincoln, and even Jimmy Carter, while not perfect, were better leaders than the average because they had more of a balance. They were neither overly/too Yang (like Trump is), or too Yin.

Didn't say that Uranus was all bad and specifically pointed out, when strong Uranus is found along side highlighted Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, etc, the faster vibratory/more positive side of it can come out more. But in his case, it is combo with predominant Mars and then strong Saturn--two very ego and control oriented symbols. Then the Personal signs being most highlighted, which are also more self focused. Literally, his 3 strongest Planets in order from strongest to less so are Mars, Uranus, Saturn (Moon is also moderately highlighted, but contrary to popular belief, Moon is not as others and compassion focused, but actually tends towards the self focused and materialistic).

The Jupiter in Libra trine is not as an effective counter balance as you think--again, because we have to go back to basic principles and the hierarchy of highlighting. Jupiter is at the end of the 2nd House starting to cusp into the 3rd, a cadent house--the weakest, least active areas of a chart. If it was angular and trine, then it more so would be an effective counterbalance because Jupiter would be simultaneously highlighted. These details and context do matter.

I don't hate Trump in the least bit, and I certainly don't dislike him because the political left does. He has always struck me as very high in narcissism and spiritual immaturity and well before he ever thought of running for presidency. However, before he did run, he did say "some" things that made sense, like saying the Iraq war was pointless and a waste of energy. I'm not black and white towards anything or anyone. As befits my Libra Moon and Aqua Venus in the 7th, strong Virgo and strong Mercury, etc, I weigh many different various factors before coming to conclusions. I know you do as well, which is why I appreciate our discussions and measured debates, even if we disagree. And we're both open to admitting we were off or wrong if enough evidence is presented.

posted January 06, 2022 11:35 PM            

And now, I say...tsk, tsk, tsk.

Have you forgotten? This is a Linda Goodman site. Have you forgotten what Linda Goodman said?

Trump the narcissist...because of his Mars in Leo and Leo Ascendent?

Trump is a pragmatic realist and a very practical fellow. Have you forgotten that Trump announces a course of action and the results intended...then goes out and actually does it? That's not bragging. That's not narcissism. How many examples do you need?

Let me cut to the chase. Linda Goodman knew some things you may not know; i.e.:

posted January 07, 2022 02:19 AM            

It's going to be interesting for certain. Feels like a DC comic film coming to life within everyone.