posted February 02, 2022 09:54 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
Your not wrong!!

Quebec was the only province to impose the highest level of restrictions.

Quebec briefly imposed a 10pm - 5am curfew anyone caught during those hours without a valid reason whould be fined.

I'm sorry to say, French-Canadians sometimes do things that make no sense.

I personally though the measures were boarding onto the extreme.

They even sent the Suerte de Quebec, Quebec provincial police..it's similar in function to state troopers in the US.

....to every Quebec provincial border crossing and inspect every incoming/outgoing car.

Then add the existing fact that if you don't speak French..the police whould treat you far worse then a normal Québec citizen.

Eventually after several clashes they had to take the restrictions down.

We did have a brief lockdown which just amounted to only essential business being open and the few that were essential had to limit the amount of people and close early.

But as previously mentioned all of the harder hit business were able to recoup 70% of there losses, most of it going towards rent money.

We were suppose to have a similar curfew as part of the lockdown.

But the chiefs of every police force in Ontario said there's no valid reason to enforce a curfew and decided not to.

I mention all this because regional differences really make a difference here in terms of perspective.

One region will feel the restrictions harder then another.

I mentioned about Quebec, the other provinces that were policed by the RCMP..which has police jurisdiction anywhere in Canada were stopping anyone without a reason.

True story, during the heart of the pandemic I had spoken to a couple that drove out of province for medical treatment...

They all had there paperwork clearly visible I said let me guess the RCMP stopped you?.

I said you don't need that here the local police forces here don't give a dam!!.

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You're correct, there are regional differences in Canada, just as we have different states here in the US. Apparently Quebec is where things got really overboard.

posted February 04, 2022 01:09 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Email today with @TorontoPolice suggesting we don’t wear “clothing that may identify you as a hospital worker” for our safety as we go into work this weekend in preparation for #FreedomConvoy2022 .

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Correct!!

I live a 20min walk from the area and was born in one of the nearby hospitals.

Off topic it's great to be close to where I was born because every June almost every transit ends up forming a conjunction with my sun.

Anyway, during the heart of the pandemic in 2020 there was an isolated attack by an anti vacinator on a health care worker.

As well as mass demonstrations in front of a couple hospitals blocking ambulances from entering.

Now for this protest, the Police have pretty much closed off the hospital area to any local traffic... any one disrupting the hospitals will be arrested.

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Originally posted by teasel:
... How did we get here? 🥲

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I know it's a long explanation...so bear with me.

The heart of the movement began in Western Canada and spread from there.

Western Canada has always felt as if they were treated as the "red-headed step child" with all forms of goverment not listening to there needs (local, provincial and federal)..
so anything imposed on them is taken as suppresion.

..and in the future problems will again start from out West.

This is because our House of Commons which is almost equivalent to the house of representatives in the US is dominated by Eastern Canada representation because the population is higher.

In generaly it goes for every 90-100,000 people they'll be assigned 1 representative in the House of Commons.

For the less populated provinces about 50,000 persons per representative

Provinces like Nunavut and Yukon only have 1 representative for the entire province.

So if you don't live in the more populated regions..you will constantly feel ignored and belive goverment just wants to screw you over.

Albertans are the most vocal and angry about this.

Now as per the movement now..I think it's mainly now being fuelled by angry anti-goverment people.

Not the orginal hard pressed people, you know how heard mentality works.

If you check reddit, which I spend more time on lots of people are getting annoyed and starting counter protests.

If it was me I'd protest by getting lawyers and arguing the case that esential surgeries are being cancalled because of covid restrictions.

Not cause disruptions and problems, it just hurts your cause.

A family friend of my mother was suppose to get a Mastectomy for Breast Cancer that was cancelled because of covid measures.

Easily a team of lawyers, followed by contacting the news about that case whould gain more traction and support then a mass protest that effects the lives of other people.

The basis of the case being that everyone does have a right to have access to medical care here and that right now being denied because of covid measures.

posted February 04, 2022 01:55 PM            

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The movement is international, at least in terms of trucker solidarity, but appears to have started in Prince Rupert, British Columbia. Correct me if you find factual evidence otherwise.

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http://www.sudbury.com/around-the-north/regular-vehic les-far-outnumber-rigs-as-freedom-convoy-departs-thunder-bay-4999059

- http://bigworldfree4u.com/trending/freedom-convoy-2022-canada-schedule-route- map-how-many-trucks/

Schedule:
Prince Rupert – 100 Grassy Bay Ln, Prince Rupert, BC V8J 3T1.
Depart: 7:00AM

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posted February 04, 2022 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Ottawa police chief Sloly: "We are now aware of a significant element from the United States in the funding, organizing" of the protest. "They have converged in our city and there are plans for more to come."

http://twitter.com/paulvieira/status/1488958128993574919

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Originally posted by teasel:
Email today with @TorontoPolice suggesting we don’t wear “clothing that may identify you as a hospital worker” for our safety as we go into work this weekend in preparation for #FreedomConvoy2022 . How did we get here? 🥲

http://twitter.com/anikoul/status/1489307983892865027?s=21

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Are you getting your news from the same sites that you parroted when you claimed that Joe Rogan made racist comments?

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/006955.html

posted February 04, 2022 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I know it's a long explanation...so bear with me.

The heart of the movement began in Western Canada and spread from there.

Western Canada has always felt as if they were treated as the "red-headed step child" with all forms of goverment not listening to there needs (local, provincial and federal)..
so anything imposed on them is taken as suppresion.

..and in the future problems will again start from out West.

This is because our House of Commons which is almost equivalent to the house of representatives in the US is dominated by Eastern Canada representation because the population is higher.

In generaly it goes for every 90-100,000 people they'll be assigned 1 representative in the House of Commons.

For the less populated provinces about 50,000 persons per representative

Provinces like Nunavut and Yukon only have 1 representative for the entire province.

So if you don't live in the more populated regions..you will constantly feel ignored and belive goverment just wants to screw you over.

Albertans are the most vocal and angry about this.

Now as per the movement now..I think it's mainly now being fuelled by angry anti-goverment people.

Not the orginal hard pressed people, you know how heard mentality works.

If you check reddit, which I spend more time on lots of people are getting annoyed and starting counter protests.

If it was me I'd protest by getting lawyers and arguing the case that esential surgeries are being cancalled because of covid restrictions.

Not cause disruptions and problems, it just hurts your cause.

A family friend of my mother was suppose to get a Mastectomy for Breast Cancer that was cancelled because of covid measures.

Easily a team of lawyers, followed by contacting the news about that case whould gain more traction and support then a mass protest that effects the lives of other people.

The basis of the case being that everyone does have a right to have access to medical care here and that right now being denied because of covid measures.

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I don't know if you have been keeping up with what was happening in your own backyard, but legal remedies to address the covid restrictions had failed.

The PM-in-hiding has so far refused to even talk with the truckers and their leaders, preferring instead to dismiss them from afar and call them racists, alt-rights, homeless food stealers. As though these were the majority of the protesters.

Maybe instead of being mad at the truckers, Canadians should be mad at Justin Blackface Trudeau and ask him to reach some kind of a compromise.

Jupiter in its rightful home of Pisces is asking people, especially leaders to act in ways that are noble. Any pettiness will backfire.

posted February 04, 2022 07:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Mars <1°15'> from Pluto = parallel. They aren't going to give in.

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posted February 04, 2022 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I don't know if you have been keeping up with what was happening in your own backyard, but legal remedies to address the covid restrictions had failed.

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You don't know how the legal system works up here.

The federal goverment (Trudeau) can dictate all they want...but at the provincial level each province has more authority in governing themselves then the federal goverment.

To a certain extent each province can over turn what the Federal Goverment says.

Quebec is the biggest violater of disregarding federal laws and replacing it with it's own provincial laws.

This is why some provinces have the freedom to increase/reduce restrictions as much as they please.

If you don't know how the legal system works of course you're legal battle will fail.

Best way from a legal perspective is to start with a few provinces...then others follow.

In my example each province is in charge of governing health care within there own province, so if one province eases the restrictions because of this the rest will follow suit.

If the truckers were educated they'd be complaining to the Premiers of each province (Simmilar in function to a state governor)...not Trudeau...because as mentioned each province can over turn what the federal goverment says.

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Originally posted by Belage:
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Maybe instead of being mad at the truckers, Canadians should be mad at Justin Blackface Trudeau and ask him to reach some kind of a compromise.

Jupiter in its rightful home of Pisces is asking people, especially leaders to act in ways that are noble. Any pettiness will backfire.

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Maybe people that aren't in Canada shoud realize that the Trucker protest in Canada has less to do with Covid restrictions...

...and more to do with outstanding Western Canada vs. Eastern Canada...Rural Vs. Urban issues.

The Covid restrictions are a convenient narrative for people who aren't fully aware of the root cause of this movement Canada.

Remember earlier we established the importance about deceptions,
Mercury retro in Cap.

I have to tread carefully when saying this since I'm not an American.

Did Lincon really care about Slavery?

Or was it just a convenient narrative for Lincon to preserve the union?

The same goes here..there are lot of other outstanding Western Canada and Rural issues...this is the only issue among many that they can create a narrative and gain a following..it's not the prinicpal of the matter.

posted February 06, 2022 12:53 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
Maybe people that aren't in Canada shoud realize that the Trucker protest in Canada has less to do with Covid restrictions...

...and more to do with outstanding Western Canada vs. Eastern Canada...Rural Vs. Urban issues.

The Covid restrictions are a convenient narrative for people who aren't fully aware of the root cause of this movement Canada.

Remember earlier we established the importance about deceptions,
Mercury retro in Cap.

I have to tread carefully when saying this since I'm not an American.

Did Lincon really care about Slavery?

Or was it just a convenient narrative for Lincon to preserve the union?

The same goes here..there are lot of other outstanding Western Canada and Rural issues...this is the only issue among many that they can create a narrative and gain a following..it's not the prinicpal of the matter.

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posted February 06, 2022 01:01 PM            

GoFundMe decided to freeze and practically reallocate to charities of their choosing $9 millions of the $10 millions the truckers supporters raised through the site. Supposedly they felt the cause was supporting violence and mayhem. The Ottawa police sent a tweet supporting and thanking GoFundMe for their decision.

Well, there was pushback, and GoFundMe has just reverted their decision, and say they will refund the money directly to the donors who should get the refund within 7-10 days.

The truckers have designated a new site for funding, this one is a free Christian based crowfunding site called GiveSendGo.
https://givesendgo.com/FreedomConvoy2022

The website is quite wonky and their server is probably overwhelmed because in less than 2 days, they have already raised $2 millions out of their $16 million goal for the truckers. As I type this, the numbers kept rising and they will reach $3 millions soon.

I think this GoFundMe behavior has generate more buzz and support for the truckers.

posted February 06, 2022 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Mercury retro in Capp at it again:

GoFundMe decided to freeze and practically reallocate to charities of their choosing $9 millions of the $10 millions the truckers supporters raised through the site. Supposedly they felt the cause was supporting violence and mayhem. The Ottawa police sent a tweet supporting and thanking GoFundMe for their decision.

Well, there was pushback, and GoFundMe has just reverted their decision, and say they will refund the money directly to the donors who should get the refund within 7-10 days.

The truckers have designated a new site for funding, this one is a free Christian based crowfunding site called GiveSendGo.
https://givesendgo.com/FreedomConvoy2022

The website is quite wonky and their server is probably overwhelmed because in less than 2 days, they have already raised $2 millions out of their $16 million goal for the truckers. As I type this, the numbers kept rising and they will reach $3 millions soon.

I think this GoFundMe behavior has generate more buzz and support for the truckers.

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posted February 07, 2022 01:11 AM            

Someone said they're wanting to burn down buildings, and stop the supply chain, so a state of emergency has been declared.

posted February 07, 2022 08:22 PM            

The truckers have bouncy castles for children! Real terrorists, those truckers!

GiveSendGo has collected $5 million for the truckers.

posted February 13, 2022 06:18 PM            

The movement has spread to Australia (Cranberra)

Yesterday, Macron had the military bringing out tanks to keep the convoi from entering Paris. Still, a few vehicles slip in and had a triumphant arrival on the Champ Elisees cheered by crowds of supporters.

Convois are now coming from all over Europe to meet in Brussells tomorrow.

posted February 14, 2022 02:09 PM            

Next it really comes down to the local law enforcement agencies. They can decide how to interpret the Premiers order.

..As I previously mentioned the Premiers which are similar form and function to a Governor in the US have more say in this then Trudeau does, it's them you want to take this to.

What alot of Americans don't understand is that Canada is pretty much in a Pre American Civil War situation, it's been like that for the last 15yrs.

...To an certain extent people have more loyalty to there Province then to the entire country...that also gives the Premiers of each province more power.

Albertan's and Québécois will adamantly defend there own provincial rights...then all the other provinces say if they can..why can't we?

Somewhat similar sentiment to the Southern States feeling there individual state rights were violated leading up to the American Civil War.

posted February 15, 2022 09:37 PM            

"The Devil is in the details".

In Alberta, higher then 50% support the movement and Alberta has a population of 4
million.

In Ontario, were the majority of the population of the country is located and where I reside less then 50% support the movement, the province has a population of 14.5 million.

So yes, it is true that this isn't a popular movement based on the population of people.

....but if you take into account by population within each province that's were it changes.

posted February 22, 2022 10:31 PM            

One of the Trucker Convoy accounts posted that Pluto’s orbit is significant to what they are trying to accomplish.