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Topic: US citizens should leave Ukraine "in the next 24 to 48 hours," the White House says
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 21373 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2022 02:11 PM
Will Fox News and trump supporters keep supporting Russia?If you don't like your own country, maybe you should move... IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 153937 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2022 03:23 PM
You need to check yourself into a mental institution if you think FOX News and Republicans support Russia. Biden is the one who hasn't used strong sanctions yet and says he won't until AFTER Russia invades. Biden also refuses to consider deploying troops into Ukraine to rescue the thousands of Americans that would be left there--just like he abandoned them somewhere else. Where could that have been? IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 5799 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2022 06:48 PM
Wars and rumors of wars. The Biden admin is itching for a geopolitical conflict with Russia over Ukraine. Nothing like a good little war to distract from the domestic failures and dismally low popularity of the president. IP: Logged |
spacecadet42420 Knowflake Posts: 181 From: Registered: Jun 2021
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posted February 12, 2022 07:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Will Fox News and trump supporters keep supporting Russia?If you don't like your own country, maybe you should move...
The Biden Administration needs stopped. Russia has had troops at the boarder of ukraine for nearly 8 years. Nothing has changed. BOTH Putin and leader of Ukraine have came out and said, almost daily, that there is no threat, they are resolving their issues civilly and they are completely dumbfounded at why Biden and American media are covering this now out of nowhere. Putin has been very clear and very vocal about this. It is very obvious that the only one making it an issue is Biden and his administration. They are instigating, out of nowhere, and trying to start this war. Biden needs out of the spotlight and to cover up the inflation disaster. He is hands down the worst president this country has ever seen and if he keeps poking the bear i wouldn’t be surprised if other countries start retaliating and joining forces to put a stop to this violent rhetoric and threats from the Biden administration. He is a weak leader, doesn’t even know where he is and cannot speak properly. He is not fit for office and the United States is the culprit of this conflict, NOT RUSSIA. but i’m sure you know nothing of that Teasel, as it is the truth and you wouldn’t know the truth if it fell on your head
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DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted February 12, 2022 09:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by spacecadet42420: The Biden Administration needs stopped. Russia has had troops at the boarder of ukraine for nearly 8 years. Nothing has changed. BOTH Putin and leader of Ukraine have came out and said, almost daily, that there is no threat, they are resolving their issues civilly and they are completely dumbfounded at why Biden and American media are covering this now out of nowhere. Putin has been very clear and very vocal about this.It is very obvious that the only one making it an issue is Biden and his administration. They are instigating, out of nowhere, and trying to start this war. Biden needs out of the spotlight and to cover up the inflation disaster. He is hands down the worst president this country has ever seen and if he keeps poking the bear i wouldn’t be surprised if other countries start retaliating and joining forces to put a stop to this violent rhetoric and threats from the Biden administration. He is a weak leader, doesn’t even know where he is and cannot speak properly. He is not fit for office and the United States is the culprit of this conflict, NOT RUSSIA. but i’m sure you know nothing of that Teasel, as it is the truth and you wouldn’t know the truth if it fell on your head
Not exactly correct, now is the real test if Putin will invade or not. Right now the ground in the Ukraine and Russia is ice frozen, perfect time to launch and invasion. If Putin doesn't launch an invasion soon, all that Winter Ice and Snow will melt in April making all the roads muddy and impassable until the summer months. I'm sure you've at least experienced one heavy winter in your life and have seen all that ice and snow thaw in the Spring. Ukraine doesn't want to admit an invasion because they don't want there economy to stop. There eyeing to become more Westernized and EU aligned, hence the reason why Putin wanted to anex the Ukraine in the first place. He still has a Soviet era pattern of way of thinking and can't accept any former Soviet Republic democratizing or becoming more Westernized. Even though many of these former Soviet Republics have no interest in being influenced by Russia anymore. They've seen there standards of living improve after abandoning "Soviet way of thinking". Even Poland already has a higher standard of living compared to someone living in Russia right now and is in a much better position then when it was under Soviet Rule. Ukraine sees this and wants in too... Now if Putin pulls his troops home he'll be forced to lose face in front of his fellow Russians...he clearly won't take his path. So he'll most likely camp his troops well into the Spring..and maybe into the Summer which will be costly to Russia, military exercises are rarely cheap. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑ IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 153937 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2022 09:42 PM
Biden doesn’t have the balls to fight Russia. That is why the left feels that he must be replaced.IP: Logged |
spacecadet42420 Knowflake Posts: 181 From: Registered: Jun 2021
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posted February 12, 2022 10:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by DualGemV2: Not exactly correct, now is the real test if Putin will invade or not.
No, it is true. I don’t know if you’re american or not but assuming that you are (sorry if not), then you’re stuck in this instant gratification and now or never way of thinking because american news is portraying this as a serious immediate and urgent issue. I say again that Russia has had its troops lined up against the Ukrainian boarder as a “threat” for nearly eight years now. Almost a decade. And you’re saying that now all of a sudden there is this pressure and Putin feels like he has to invade now and it’s better to do it in the winter. I’m not sure why THIS winter all of a sudden after EIGHT winters is the time to invade…. especially with absolutely no tensions/events/instances to trigger it AND they have publicly, together, shook hands and said repeatedly everything is fine. They’ve had multiple movements over those years, amassing then slimming and repeat. Ukraine has had multiple “announcements” of the movements over the last eight years. NOTHING has changed. You’re implying that everyone is lying. The Ukraine citizens are lying about life being normal and no news or no new threat, that Putin is lying about having any current pans of action to invade right now or ever, that the Ukraine president is lying that they are in good communicative terms and resolving issues. All of that is just fake and for no reason out of the blue he absolutely must invade this winter and cannot do it in the summer because it will be …. muddy….
I’m not trying to be rude by any means but American media really has a hold over it’s citizens. To the point that they will ignore facts and the words of both countries leaders and citizens. It is now the Americans that are instigating an invasion or tensions. Putin has even tried to get the biden administration to stop with the fear mongering. I just think this sense of urgency your speaking about is clearly american manufactured as quite literally no one else in the world is concerned about it as an immediate issue. Ukraine and Russia apply pressure to each other but are working together to ease tensions. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 17317 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 13, 2022 12:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Biden doesn’t have the balls to fight Russia. That is why the left feels that he must be replaced.
Yeah, Biden would send Putin a 'strongly worded protest letter' when he invades Ukraine. That would show Biden isn't to be trifled with! IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted February 13, 2022 02:42 AM
@spacecadet42420No. I'm not an American..I whould have assumed you whould have read the "from" under my profile. That's the first thing I do before entering any debate here. Find the location where that person is from then already train yourself to know what there perspective is based on that geographical region....the outcome is almost always already predetermined based on that. Anyway no I don't listen to the BS that comes from US media. More importantly I don't bother with the BS that comes from Russia Today (RT) it's funded by the Russian goverment with the intention of spreading propaganda and misinformation to the West. Firstly, Putin is a Politian.. He is currently unable to solve the real issues in Russia right now...this includes the economy and hyper inflation while suffering a declining approval rating. Invading Ukraine or posturing for a possible invasion is the only political distraction he can do to regain his sinking approval rating. Secondly, the man is an known for taking insane risks...sometimes It pays off..sometimes it's sucidal. In this early years the KGB sent him to Dresden because it was a backwater and they figured he whouldn't ruin anything. The story goes when the Berlin Wall fell an angry mob nearly stormed the Dresden KGB Office there were no soldiers stationed... ..He aproached the crowd pulled out his pistol and said "I have 12 Bullets...11 I will use on you (the crowd) the 12th on my myself". He then left and continued burning files with the rest of Kgb staff stationed in Dresden. Just like any risk taker they have no limit until they fall flat on there feet...he may have raised the stakes to far here. Thirdly, if he already took the Dombas Region .what makes you think he whouldn't want to seize more territory? Next on the list whould be closing off the Black Sea to Ukraine? If not with his conventional forces then with the Armed Russian back seperates. Don't forget the 2014 sesizure of Eastern Ukraine was because the Ukrainian goverment was making a trade deal with the EU and becoming more Western friendly. Fourthly, The recently uprising in Kazakhstan to which Russian troops were called in...and crushed. Putin Stated, "Russia will not allow revolutions" that means any former Soviet States that haven't broken free from Russian influence will not be allowed to...this includes Ukraine. If Putin can no longer do that by military..then he will attept by propaganda, cyberattacks followed by trying to show how corrupt, weak and inept the Ukraine goverment is. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑ IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 5799 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 13, 2022 02:34 PM
quote: Firstly, Putin is a Politian..He is currently unable to solve the real issues in Russia right now...this includes the economy and hyper inflation while suffering a declining approval rating. Invading Ukraine or posturing for a possible invasion is the only political distraction he can do to regain his sinking approval rating.
Funny. When I replace the words Putin with Biden and Russia with America, everything you say fits perfectly well. Just sayin' And welcome to the GLobal Unity 2.0.! I appreciate people who can offer a variety of opinions and do so rationally. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 153937 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 13, 2022 05:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Funny. When I replace the words Putin with Biden and Russia with America, everything you say fits perfectly well. Just sayin' And welcome to the GLobal Unity 2.0.! I appreciate people who can offer a variety of opinions and do so rationally.
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DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted February 14, 2022 02:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Funny. When I replace the words Putin with Biden and Russia with America, everything you say fits perfectly well. Just sayin' And welcome to the GLobal Unity 2.0.! I appreciate people who can offer a variety of opinions and do so rationally.
I appreciate that...I'd send you a midday Starbucks card so you could get your self a midday coffee. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑ IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 5799 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2022 04:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by DualGemV2: I appreciate that...I'd send you a midday Starbucks card so you could get your self a midday coffee.My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑
Thanks! I'll drink it in my mind! IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising Knowflake Posts: 2325 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted February 14, 2022 05:58 PM
Ukraine was part of Russia before that nation was born. I think they should settle this amicably. Russia just cannot have Ukraine because it wants it or how close ties in culture they have. They want to rise inflation even more. Hence the war. Big changes coming by April of this year. Haooy valentine's day !!! IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted February 14, 2022 07:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by PhoenixRising: Ukraine was part of Russia before that nation was born. I think they should settle this amicably. Russia just cannot have Ukraine because it wants it or how close ties in culture they have. They want to rise inflation even more. Hence the war. Big changes coming by April of this year. Haooy valentine's day !!!
To be honest I actually wished Russia invaded today (Feb 14 - Valentines Day) because that's really what this is all about. Russia is basically acting like an abusive boyfriend that can't accept that the relationship is over. I can't have you so I will use force to get you to make up with me...and block you from "marrying into the EU" and Democratizing. All done on Valentines Day. "From Russia With Love". Putin has to understand...Ukraine just doesn't want to be intimate with Russia anymore. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 21373 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2022 11:26 PM
http://twitter.com/DefTechPat/status/1493412674587275266 IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 21373 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2022 11:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: Yeah, Biden would send Putin a 'strongly worded protest letter' when he invades Ukraine. That would show Biden isn't to be trifled with!
I thought we didn't want any more wars? Is that not the case?? Rumpy wanted us out of Afghanistan, earlier than we pulled out of there, and he was buddies with putin, so I doubt that he would have gone to war with him. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 21373 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2022 11:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by spacecadet42420: but i’m sure you know nothing of that Teasel, as it is the truth and you wouldn’t know the truth if it fell on your head
Not true at all, but keep up with the insults, and you'll fit right in. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 21373 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2022 11:32 PM
Would you guys even admit the truth, if it stood out loud and clear? You haven't, so far. Still waiting for that.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 21373 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2022 12:43 AM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 153937 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2022 02:13 AM
Are you actually speaking of truth? I have one word for you, well three letters, anyway: CNN.IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 5799 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2022 11:58 AM
@ teasel, would it be too much to ask that when you are posting a tweet, you also include some blurb about what it is about? So that we can decide if we even want to check it out? Thanks!IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 153937 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 16, 2022 09:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I thought we didn't want any more wars? Is that not the case?? Rumpy wanted us out of Afghanistan, earlier than we pulled out of there, and he was buddies with putin, so I doubt that he would have gone to war with him.
This is why you’re clueless. None of this would have happened with President Trump in office. Putin would not have made a move at all. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 17317 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 16, 2022 11:45 AM
Randall is right! quote: Originally posted by teasel: I thought we didn't want any more wars? Is that not the case?? Rumpy wanted us out of Afghanistan, earlier than we pulled out of there, and he was buddies with putin, so I doubt that he would have gone to war with him.
You've got your head so far up the 'wrong place' that you can't see the light. If Trump was in the Oval Office, there wouldn't be any crisis in Ukraine. Putin knew better than to try bullying Ukraine or Trump, knew what the reaction would be so it would never have happened. Trump put severe sanction on Russia and killed the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Biden removed the sanctions against Putin/Russia and greenlighted the pipeline. Biden is Putin's butt boy. You have a gift for always managing to get things wrong.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 17317 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 16, 2022 12:57 PM
Russian Military Drills Conclude, Troop Withdrawal Begins, White House Proclaims the Stunning Strength and Brilliant Strategic Thinking of Joe Biden Averted Thermonuclear War February 15, 2022 SundanceThe previously planned Russian training exercises [Announcement Here] have been completed in Belarus – close to neighboring Ukraine. Today those troops began returning to their places of regular deployment as reported by the Russian Ministry of Defense in Moscow. As a result, the Biden manufactured ‘wag the dog‘ scenario, a fabricated ‘Russia invading Ukraine‘ premise by the White House, U.S. Dept of State, Pentagon and intelligence apparatus, needs to come to an end quickly. After pretending that Russia was going to invade Ukraine in an effort to manufacture a political win out of thin air, Joe Biden will declare today he saved the world. (New York Times) President Biden will speak on the Ukraine crisis at the White House this afternoon. Western analysts said it was too early to say if the announced troop movements were meaningful, but it might be a sign that Russia is stepping back from the threat of invasion. President Vladimir V. Putin said Tuesday that Russia had decided “to partially pull back troops,” and the Russian Defense Ministry announced that some forces from military districts bordering Ukraine were being sent back to their garrisons, a sign that Moscow might be stepping away from the threat of an invasion. The announcement was the strongest signal yet that Russia might be trying to de-escalate the military standoff near the Ukrainian border, but it was far from clear that the threat of war has passed. Military analysts warned that it was too early to make firm conclusions about any troop drawdown without more information. (read more) Yesterday, Zero Hedge ran a CTH article detailing the fabricated ruse from the White House. Today the AP said Zero Hedge was promoting propaganda from Russia. Also today, White House has to pretend to take their victory lap early. Go Figure. Yes, you can thank me in the comments section for saving Ukraine from the United States CIA construct and averting war. [ LOL ] But seriously, that inflated sense of CTH importance is less silly than Biden’s claims today. That’s how stupid this entire thing has been. Yes, the White House is exactly that desperate. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/15/russian-military-drills-conclude-troop-withdrawal-begins-white-house-proclaims-the-stunning-strength-and-brilliant-strategic-thi nking-of-joe-biden-averted-thermonuclear-war/ IP: Logged |