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BlueRoamer
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posted February 24, 2022 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

From foundations of geopolitics:

Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.[9]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

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posted February 24, 2022 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dugin is really the key to understanding Putin. He's not the only key, or the skeleton key, but he's a big key.

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posted February 24, 2022 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The plan seems to be working.

The US is inward turning, divided. Ukraine is in hand. UK is cut out of the EU.

Its a big gambit tho, if it backfires Russia won't recover for decades.

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posted February 24, 2022 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's examine the reasoning.

Theory: Putin wanted to invade Ukraine.

FACT: But he waited to do so after the US had sent weapons and reinforcements to Ukraine, and after the US and some NATO forces had amassed at the Urkainian border. When he could have done it months or weeks before.

In other words, Putin's playbook was to wait until the enemy sends reinforcement to the country he plans to invade before invading... Sounds like a brilliant plan of invasion, uh?

The answer is no! Think, people. THINK!

Your beloved Biden admin forced his hand. Putin has already told you he will not accept Ukraine being part of NATO, nor will he accept NATO forces at his immediate borders. Just like the US is not going to accept Russian troops amassed at the Canadian border. Or the Mexican border, etc...

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posted February 24, 2022 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to ask yourself, why is the Biden admin effing with Putin? Oh, because they care about Ukrainians?!! Really?

Let me see the myriad reasons our cynical mind will give us. Could it be political distraction from:

The bottomless pit that has become Biden's popularity?

High skyrocketing inflation in the US?

Need for Biden to look tough after the disaster in Afghanistan?

Think...You've got a brain. Use it!

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posted February 24, 2022 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shura, any recommended reading?

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posted February 24, 2022 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Belage your assertion is that the US has been planning to invade Russia via Ukraine?

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posted February 24, 2022 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So Belage your assertion is that the US has been planning to invade Russia via Ukraine?


No.

My clearly stated assertion is that the US has forced the hands of Putin for its own nefarious reasons.

As for your accusations of me being a "commie sympathizer" (which you have since deleted), I am already predicting that you and your kind and the Biden admin will start labeling opponents of the war and dissenters Enemy of the state and terrorists, and will start enacting laws to censor, debank, fire and otherwise neutralize people who think like me.

I can smell it coming...

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posted February 24, 2022 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...But I ain't worrying.

I know who is the ULTIMATE AUTHORITY in my life, and it ain't the Biden admin, the globalists, and the rest of the cabal, no matter how hard they try.

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posted February 24, 2022 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To make my point, a January 14 article:

As Ukraine tensions mount, US vows ‘decisive’ response if Russia deploys to Cuba, Venezuela
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/americas/article/3163362/us- vows-decisive-response-if-russia-deploys-military-cuba

Soooooo, if Russia deploys to Cuba and Venezuela, the US is entitled to take decisive actions (whatever it means for the US), but Russia is not supposed to take decisive actions (Whatever it means for Russia) at the US and NATO countries deploying at its doorsteps in Ukraine???

It's called PROVOCATION, people.

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posted February 24, 2022 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
So Belage your assertion is that the US has been planning to invade Russia via Ukraine?


The US is none to happy with the relatively recent alliance of China, Russia, etc to start selling oil in Yuan currency. For many years the US cornered the market on selling oil in dollars, which helped to keep the dollar afloat and strong even during economic downturns.

This has all changed with this alliance of powerful and/or oil rich nations, and it will eventually have a big (not so positive) impact on the US dollar.

Russia is also one of the few nations on this earth that refuses to completely cow tow to the IMF and other international banking groups that are the real powers behind the curtains in most countries. Russia did have to borrow money from these after the collapse of the Soviet Union, but it paid off its debt and wants to try to remain as independent as possible. This is a big NO, NO to these groups.

The last time countries did both of these was Iraq with trying to sell oil in their currency and then Libya with trying to start their own national central bank with gold backed currency. Look at what happened to these countries. Falsely accused on trumped up charges and squashed and torn apart by the plutocrats primarily via the below..

The US Federal government and military is the right hand man and police force of these international banking groups. They give the orders to the US intelligence community and in turn the intelligence agencies give the orders to the President and Congress. Barely any of it influenced by the public or majority desire, and especially not when it comes to foreign policy.

So yes, the US WOULD like to squash Russia and keep it from becoming a rival like China is currently. However, they know that outright war with Russia is a bit of gamble. That is why they have been sanctioning the heck out of Russia for years now (and ramping up the pressure of late), trying to cripple it in other ways.

But they will resort to war if they gain the upper hand enough to do so. Ukraine is integral to that longer term strategy because of its location. Ukraine also has many potential mercenaries for hire, for having been through a lot in the relatively recent past, as a people, they have become somewhat inured and numb to violence, and this has a tendency to close down hearts (war torn areas always seem to have this problem). Closed hearts make for great soldiers willing to kill and die for your cause with little questioning or rebellion as long as they are paid decently.

I'm not saying that Russia is the "good guy" and the US is the "bad guy". It is not so simplistic and black and white. However, I do applaud any nation that stands up against the international banking groups because they very much want to dominate and completely control this world, and few nations do stand up to them.

The US did for awhile back in the day, but that all changed with Wilson and with the Jekyll Island secret meeting of bankers and other big wigs financially. The one good thing that Jackson did back in his days, was to stop the international banking groups from taking over the US via controlling its currency from the inside.

These are movements and power plays that are literally centuries in the making.
There is a much bigger and longterm perspective to be seen here, and few go there fully for fear of being thought of, or labeled, this or that. But truth is truth. This world is controlled/manipulated by incredibly wealthy groups and families that have been accumulating wealth and resources since the 1600 to 1700's, and we have no idea of their truth wealth because they have invested in and bought up so much globally and often hidden behind shell companies. And psychopathy seems to be rampant in these families and groups. Almost like a combo of passed down "nature (genetics) and nurture (upbringing)".

Big picture perspective is something I do particularly well with Virgo Jupiter retrograding back into the 1st and trine its ruler, Mercury, in Capricorn with about .5* separation. A good balance between big and holistic picture, but also grounded details and pragmatism. Forest met trees and trees met forest in this mind.

If one strongly identifies with this or that group identity, they will not see the full picture and deeper truths. Because such personal identification tends to narrow and distort perception. Anything that starts off with a "I am a..." and hello to belief systems, dogma, and distortion. Its why though I eat primarily vegetarian and vegan, I don't call myself "a vegetarian" or "or a vegan". This goes for any and everything group think related.

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posted February 24, 2022 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ Yes, China and Russia have been getting closer since Biden has started fanning the flames of war.

These two countries can strategize when it suits them, even if it is short term.

China has its own eyes on Taiwan, and by getting closer and sealing deals with Russia, it ensures that just as Russia will not go along with penalizing China when it invades Taiwan, China will not go along when with penalizing penalizing Russia at UN Security council for invading Ukraine. These two superpowers can wash each other hand's off when it's in their best interests. They both have veto power at the UN Security council.

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posted February 24, 2022 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And one more thing about the globalist plans.

Putin is rogue. That throws a monkey wrench in the plan.

As for China, even if the globalists manage to install it as the world's dominant power, China's CCP will not be their lackey and take orders from them. The CCP does not trust them, and will only use them as long as they are useful. They have no idea who they are dealing with.

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posted February 25, 2022 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
...But I ain't worrying.

I know who is the ULTIMATE AUTHORITY in my life, and it ain't the Biden admin, the globalists, and the rest of the cabal, no matter how hard they try.


Are you ******** me?

Your arguments are straight out of right-wing/conspirituality arguments, just like this person, who is also talking about astrology.
http://www.instagram.com/p/CaYranYLHaV/ She has a post stating she'd like to thank Putin for ending the pandemic. He has done nothing of the sort.

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posted February 25, 2022 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Blue.

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posted February 25, 2022 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you ******** me?

Your arguments are straight out of right-wing/conspirituality arguments, just like this person, who is also talking about astrology.
http://www.instagram.com/p/CaYranYLHaV/ She has a post stating she'd like to thank Putin for ending the pandemic. He has done nothing of the sort.


I see that my statements about who is THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY IN MY life have triggered you.

Stay triggered and keep worshiping at the cabal's altar.

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posted February 25, 2022 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the meantime, the real victims of this instigated war are the people of Ukraine. All that saber tooth rattling by instigator Biden and his "sanctions" have so far not helped them nor are they going to make a dent in Russia's power.

But Biden gets to tell the American people that due to the war, they can now expect to pay more at the pump, and they can blame Putin for that. I told y'all!

This admin is going to use every dirty tactic in the book to distract from its failures and shore itself up before the November elections.

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posted February 25, 2022 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The pandemic was over months ago. The Dems want to keep it going on forever. Biden still hasn’t gotten the memo.

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posted February 25, 2022 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
No.

My clearly stated assertion is that the US has forced the hands of Putin for its own nefarious reasons.

As for your accusations of me being a "commie sympathizer" (which you have since deleted), I am already predicting that you and your kind and the Biden admin will start labeling opponents of the war and dissenters Enemy of the state and terrorists, and will start enacting laws to censor, debank, fire and otherwise neutralize people who think like me.

I can smell it coming...


Nobody forced his hands. Putin didn't have to invade Ukraine, just because Biden said he would.

Biden laid out for us, exactly what he was told they were planning. He was inviting Putin to make him look like an idiot (I know what you will say to that, and you can save it). Putin could have just done nothing, but he followed through with his plans to take over Ukraine.

I see rumpy calling Putin a genius. I see people like Pompeo doing the same. Rather than getting the reactions they deserve, for supporting a psychopath, we are told that this is all Biden's fault. He's the truly evil one.

NO. This is all Putin.

I know that I already posted, but I had more to say.

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posted February 25, 2022 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Biden couldn’t plan a child’s birthday party, much less anything to make Putin look like a fool. Biden is complicit in this slaughter. He allowed it, he encouraged it, and he refuses to do anything of merit to stop it. He should (and will) be impeached and removed from office.

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posted February 25, 2022 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Teasel, why do you keep ignoring the fact of NATO's, via US influence, setting up military bases around Russia's border, which btw are in direct defiance of actual signed treatises between US and Russia?

You think this is "no big deal" or something?

So can I and my buddies start camping right outside of your property waving our guns? If I say, "hey, we have peaceful intentions", would you believe me?

Are you aware that the US interfered in Ukraine's democratic processes and not that long ago installed a puppet leader like it has done in so many different countries around the world since the 50's?

Do you have any actual deeper and historical understanding of this situation at all?

It is not evil to defend your country from extremely powerful forces that want to see you break and become weak again.

Do you think that if Russia started to set up military bases on the Canadian-US and Mexican-US borders, that the US would take this for one day, let alone years like Russia has?

Meanwhile, sanctioning the heck out of Russia in "soft" war and violence, trying to weaken/cripple her.

You are utterly clueless about what you talk about. There is literally no objectivity or bigger picture perspective to be seen in any of your posts about this. It's all belief, emotionalism, and parroting what corporate media tells you.

And stop telling me "don't" when I disagree with you. If you are allowed to constantly share your opinions, I'm allowed to counter balance your opinions with my own. When people try to control other people like that, it is nothing but a sign of ego and/or insecurity.

As I've told you, you're not the only person dealing with hard times, health issues, depression, etc, etc. I'm NOT trying to add to yours, just because I see things differently than you, just as I know you're not trying to add to mine because you see things differently than me.

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posted February 26, 2022 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And people thought President Trump would be soft on Putin? Biden immediately removed all of President Trump's harsh sanctions. Then he gave Putin the green light to run his pipeline, making a billion dollars a day. Yes, you could say Biden partnered with Putin in this invasion.

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posted February 26, 2022 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All is not lost and polarized in this world. The one thing that liberals and conservatives can strongly agree on, is that "Putin is evil" in a super simplistic and one dimensional sense. Never mind all the provoking and bear poking the US and its "allies" have done for years to Russia.

Yep, its super black and white, good guy vs evil guy.

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