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Topic: Missouri lawmaker seeks to stop residents from obtaining abortions out of state
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teasel
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posted March 09, 2022 10:29 AM
  
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/08/missouri-abortion-ban-texas-supreme-court/
So, women are now owned by the State?
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Randall
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posted March 09, 2022 11:02 AM
I wish you cared about bodily autonomy and liberty other than for murdering babies. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted March 09, 2022 02:35 PM
Stop murdering innocent babies, you ghoulIP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted March 09, 2022 03:22 PM
I would back up Teasel on this one.
How cannot you see it’s similar to forceful vaccination when they make you put something in your body against your will. Your body should be your choice.IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted March 09, 2022 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I would back up Teasel on this one.
How cannot you see it’s similar to forceful vaccination when they make you put something in your body against your will. Your body should be your choice.
Not when your intent is to kill a baby. Your analogy falls apart due to dissimilar subject matter. BTW, teasel is all for forced vaccinations. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted March 09, 2022 05:47 PM
no one forced the baby into your uterus And don't come at me with rape stories. Extremely rare scenarios. Its not 1985. Abortion is birth control now. IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted March 09, 2022 08:29 PM
If you think rape is extremely rare, I guess you’re lucky to live in a good place.
Only college campuses rape undergraduates: 26.4% of women and 6.8% of men experience rape or sexual assault
https://www.4grewallaw.com/blog/2021/august/college-campus-sexual-assault-statistics-infogra/And we’re talking about good areas what supposed to be safe. If you take big cities with higher criminal rate and poor neighborhoods… Anyway, don’t you think if a woman doesn’t want a baby she could do something to harm him even by not taking care properly of her body during a pregnancy.
You would want a poor soul to come to the world in the hateful environment or with defects preventing him to live a good life. Would it be better to let this soul to wait for another better opportunity to come to life with people who care about him?!
Many women would do underground abortions if it’ll be illegal and could harm themselves together with a fetus by it. It’s not 60s when women would obediently carry a fetus from a man they hate or don’t want for another reasons. I don’t even argue there at what point couple cells become a baby. There’re no even heart and brain before 4 weeks IP: Logged |
shura
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posted March 09, 2022 09:37 PM
Pregnancy resulting from rape and abortion of those babies account for a small percentage of abortions."Women would do underground abortions if it'll be illegal ..." Sure they will. Women will do all manner of illegal acts. That alone is no argument to make those acts legal.
The remainder of the argument is old and tiresome, and tbh depressingly materialistic. Women who "wanted" their children have been known to abuse those children. Women who carried an unintentional baby have become good mothers. Maybe give women some credit? Maybe support them? Maybe help cultivate a culture of personal responsibility and higher societal expectations? We all come into this world with crosses to bear. All of us. If you are envisioning some kind of "perfect' scenario where only perfect parents with perfect homes leading perfect lives are allowed to have perfect children, you can keep that dystopian nightmare. I want no part of that.
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Librapurr
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posted March 10, 2022 01:00 PM
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Librapurr
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posted March 10, 2022 01:02 PM
Even if you believe rape pregnancies are small percentage why not to make a clause in these strict abortion laws for it. There’re exclusions in laws for many things.
I do believe some people shouldn’t and don’t deserve to have children. We’re not supposed to just procreate like animals pushing a litter out and leave them for suffering.
Also, they do abortion for animals for health reasons. So you give human females less rights than other animal females. (we’re still a part of animal kingdom by biology) If wanted children are getting abused, what percentage of unwanted children can get good care?, You create dystopian nightmare by bringing unwanted and sick fetuses to the world.
It creates more situations like that:
https://people.com/human-interest/authorities-trying-to-determine-if-newborn-died-before-being-left-at-fire-station-in-duffel-bag/ Giving a woman help and a credit could be a good idea, but they keep creating laws mostly for restricting women rights, not for helping them.
And the most of these lawmakers are males. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted March 14, 2022 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Even if you believe rape pregnancies are small percentage why not to make a clause in these strict abortion laws for it.
Sure. Most centrist moderate types would appear to consent to this.
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I do believe some people shouldn’t and don’t deserve to have children.
Well you're entitled to that opinion. Are you suggesting that opinion should extend to federal regulations? quote:
We’re not supposed to just procreate like animals pushing a litter out and leave them for suffering.
[quote]Also, they do abortion for animals for health reasons. So you give human females less rights than other animal females. (we’re still a part of animal kingdom by biology)
here is a telling contradiction. Did the animal receiving the abortion give consent?
Also, we are not animals. quote:
If wanted children are getting abused, what percentage of unwanted children can get good care?, You create dystopian nightmare by bringing unwanted and sick fetuses to the world.
It creates more situations like that:
https://people.com/human-interest/authorities-trying-to-determine-if-newborn-died-before-being-left-at-fire-station-in-duffel-bag/
You're doing it again. Life is hard. You cant avoid all suffering by aborting babies. What a frighteningly egotistical proposition! Ideas like this lead to genocides, and prison camps, and government enforced abortions to cull the heard of undesirables. Hey, let's kill the babies with Down's and cleft palates and while we're at it how about eliminating the poor? Those Brazilian favelas are a hell of a thing. Such suffering! Easy fix if we force sterilize everyone living in them. I mean, you wouldn't want kids to suffer, would you? Seriously, you are either not thinking this through or you are a sociopath. quote:
Giving a woman help and a credit could be a good idea, but they keep creating laws mostly for restricting women rights, not for helping them.
And the most of these lawmakers are males.
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teasel
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posted March 14, 2022 03:30 PM
I am tired of people supporting the attacks on women. Also on gay and trans people. They aren’t doing a damned thing to pubbies, but pubbies are trying to force their way of life onto the rest of us. Now I’m dealing with some stressful things, and don’t need to be in GU. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 14, 2022 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
If you think rape is extremely rare, I guess you’re lucky to live in a good place.
Only college campuses rape undergraduates: 26.4% of women and 6.8% of men experience rape or sexual assault
https://www.4grewallaw.com/blog/2021/august/college-campus-sexual-assault-statistics-infogra/And we’re talking about good areas what supposed to be safe. If you take big cities with higher criminal rate and poor neighborhoods… Anyway, don’t you think if a woman doesn’t want a baby she could do something to harm him even by not taking care properly of her body during a pregnancy.
You would want a poor soul to come to the world in the hateful environment or with defects preventing him to live a good life. Would it be better to let this soul to wait for another better opportunity to come to life with people who care about him?!
Many women would do underground abortions if it’ll be illegal and could harm themselves together with a fetus by it. It’s not 60s when women would obediently carry a fetus from a man they hate or don’t want for another reasons. I don’t even argue there at what point couple cells become a baby. There’re no even heart and brain before 4 weeks
Libra, I agree with you. I think there shouldn’t be a van at all, though. Shura seems to hate women. She seems to hate a lot of people. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 14, 2022 03:34 PM
I love how sone people are all “abortion is murder” but refuse to do a damned thing to protect people from a virus. “People die, get over it” as they go to another superspreader event, and don’t give a damn if they pass it along to people who could die from it. Don’t care about the children dying from it, either. But they don’t want to actually do anything to look after those kids, or even provide health care for pregnant women, because they don’t really care about women or babies. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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posted March 21, 2022 03:44 PM
Abortions for all!!!!!IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 21, 2022 05:25 PM
Ah, but you support super spreader events when it’s BLM riots, huh? There’s nothing you can do to protect yourself from Covid. You are stuck in 2020, teasel. Stop being so uninformed. It’s airborne. Everyone has had it it or will have it. You can wear 19 masks and stay locked in the basement cowering in fear, but stop telling the rest of us what to do. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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posted March 23, 2022 06:46 PM
SOOOOO 2020, lets get with the program kiddos!IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted March 23, 2022 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
SOOOOO 2020, lets get with the program kiddos!
LOL. I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're dead serious.
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Librapurr
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posted March 24, 2022 12:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by shura:
[B] Sure. Most centrist moderate types would appear to consent to this.
Texas law makes no exceptions for victims of rape or incest. Forced sterilizing is as wrong as forced abortion. Women should have a choice. Also, by giving women no choice you get 3 people to suffer, not one.
If you like suffering you can practice it in your family. Why to impose it on everybody?
It would be the same as you said ”You're entitled to that opinion. Are you suggesting that opinion should extend to federal regulations?”
I don’t force bad people to sterilize. Why the other people should force an unacquainted woman to have a child, make the choice for a stranger without knowing her story. quote:
men gave you the right to vote
They also should get out of their heads and egos and think how to make women life better since they were elected. Not just impose more restrictions.
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teasel
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posted March 24, 2022 04:15 PM
http://twitter.com/sumpeoplelikeit/status/1507083347146813449?s=21 IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 24, 2022 04:15 PM
http://twitter.com/sumpeoplelikeit/status/1507083347146813449?s=21 IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 24, 2022 04:17 PM
http://twitter.com/sumpeoplelikeit/status/1507083347146813449?s=21 IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 24, 2022 04:20 PM
Idaho wants to not only criminalize abortion, using bounties like Texas, but also wants the families of rapists to benefit financially, if the woman involved was raped by a member of their family. The GOP is ******* insane. You’re insane if you support them. And shura doesn’t care about babies. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 24, 2022 09:39 PM
Oh men gave us the right to vote, we should be so grateful? Women had to fight for it, and we were lucky enough that *some* men believed that women should be given equal rights. You're lucky that feminists existed, long before you were born, shura, but I don't see you expressing your gratitude every single day, for the fact that your husband doesn't actually own you, and that you get to make your own choices every single day. IP: Logged |
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