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teasel
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posted July 18, 2022 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/17/health/abortion-miscarriage-treatment.html


Surgical procedures and medication for miscarriages are identical to those for abortion, and some patients report delayed or denied miscarriage care because doctors and pharmacists fear running afoul of abortion bans.

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posted July 18, 2022 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://apnews.com/article/abortion-science-health-medication-lupus-e4042947e4cc0c45e38837d394199033

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posted July 19, 2022 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also spoke to the son of a family friend, whose wife was going on about these women not really having abortions - that the procedure was different. No, it's exactly the same. I spoke to her, as well.

Republicans are now trying to save face, and say this isn't a real abortion, when it is. They've imparted this horror upon millions of people in this country - this ongoing horror, until it gets fixed - and are now trying to deny it, even as those in some states say that an abortion will also be or remain banned, when the mother's life is in danger.

Anti-choice, forced birth, NOT pro-life.

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posted July 19, 2022 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let. The. States. Decide.

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posted July 19, 2022 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What concerns me about this is many women are born with “abnormal” wombs, the kind where in spite of being able to bring life to full term, there’s a higher risk of complications than average, the planned pregnancy needed to be monitored throughout all terms.

Do these women need to move their husband and family to another state for safe family planning, to become mothers?

I have a bicornuate uterus. it scares me that if I want to be pregnant yet something goes physiologically wrong, I’d be left for dead. I can’t change the uterus I was born with, so I would have to abandon my home, income and community for the opportunity to survive? Wow

Catch22, these laws are not pro life. I’ve lost my right to a safe, not life-threatening, pregnancy. I lost the right to become a mother, without fear of my own death

What men do not understand is pregnancy is very dangerous. Since the dawn of mankind, it always has been. Women with interventionary healthcare in the last 100 years are dying less in the process.

These anti-abortion laws want to kill pregnant women; give precedence to the fetus (a physiologically and intellectually undeveloped “human”) to make the wise decision. The fetus, especially if in trouble, might go so far to destroy its host for any chance to “survive” (even when it doesn’t have fully functioning body nor any chance for survival outside this womb), it’s not sovereign. Unlike other pregnant mammals, human fetuses are parasitic in this way. They can go rogue. Healthcare is meant to protect life.


Uneducated Conservatives think that miscarriages mean that baby’s just give up it’s rights and eventually falls out of the body. This delusion couldn’t be further from the facts of life.


Give me liberty or give me death?

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posted July 19, 2022 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

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posted July 19, 2022 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course, no one can verify the claim that the hospital denied her a D&C due to new abortion laws in Texas, because HIPAA privacy regulations prevents the hospital from divulging personal information.

But I see that the NY Times ran with the story and made its own speculations.

ETA: I do feel though that the hospitals should not deny miscarriage care and D&C requests once it has been established that cardiac activity has stopped on its own.

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