posted April 10, 2023 12:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Dhyana:
...if they embrace him and his policies, thereby appealing to MAGA voters, how can they honestly run against him.

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Trump ran with a appealing platform - arguably more appealing today than it was in 2016. Sadly, he was largely ineffectual. (Not arguing why, that's another story) He reneged on promises, he caved to opposing pressure, and, lacking Congressional connections, he failed to achieve meaningful across the aisle compromises. And then there's the Q business.

If the same message were presented by a more attractive messenger, one with the ability to move his agenda forward .... you might have something.

The GOP old guard is lifeless, unimaginative. The GOP alt has nothing but this aggressive, bitchy, doomsday thing going. Normal people are sick of this shiiit. Normal people want sensible. Be sensible. Or at least pretend. Stop arguing about pervy drag queens and get those trains running on time again.

posted April 10, 2023 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
Trump ran with a appealing platform - arguably more appealing today than it was in 2016.

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I agree.

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Sadly, he was largely ineffectual.

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Hardly. Considering he had virtually the entire administrative and deep state, its media allies, both parties, including appointees within his own administration, and many partisan bureaucrats actively working against him, it's remarkable what he was able to accomplish.

Did he start any new wars? No, unlike presidents in recent history.

Did we have an invasion at our southern border during the Trump years? No, we didn't.

Did we have peace and prosperity during the Trump years? Yes. Even people who didn't like him liked how they were benefiting from his team's economic policies.

Victor Davis Hanson:

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Trump's Achievements Would Be 'Canonized' if the Obama Administration Had Done Them

The media assure us that the Trump administration’s handling of the pandemic has been a disaster. But their conclusions are not supported by any evidence.

In the United States, the coronavirus death rate per million people is similar to, or lower than, most major European countries except Germany.

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As of 2020, and prior to Biden's term:

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The U.S. has cut its carbon emissions, often at a rate superior to those nations still adhering to the Paris climate accord targets.

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President Trump "achieved the most stunning breakthroughs in Middle Eastern diplomacy in over half a century."

namely, Arab countries' recognition of Israel.

Kosovo and Serbia signed economic agreements with Israel.

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He reneged on promises, he caved to opposing pressure, and, lacking Congressional connections, he failed to achieve meaningful across the aisle compromises.

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Did he fail to keep promises? Sure, but this can be said of every president. I read Obama kept only 50% of his promises, and he did not challenge the DC cartel, and was very much one of them.

Care to give examples of caving to opposing pressures? As for failing "to achieve meaningful across the aisle compromises," how is that even possible given the animosity and obstruction both within his own party as well as from the Democrats united in opposition.

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If the same message were presented by a more attractive messenger, one with the ability to move his agenda forward .... you might have something.

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That's a good point. I think Kari Lake offers this and that she is going to be that messenger, whether as a candidate for VP or as a surrogate.

http://www.westernjournal.com/victor-davis-hanson-trumps-achievement s-canonized-obama-administration-done/

posted April 10, 2023 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
rather than unite, maybe expunge the traitorous elements

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