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Topic: How Do You Think President Trump Will End The Ukraine Conflict?
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Randall
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posted November 24, 2024 05:22 AM
  
I look at this as Ukraine’s last gasp. The fantasy of defeating Russia is meeting the hard reality. President Trump said he would end it on day one. That might be a tad bit too ambitious. He’s got a very busy first day. But definitely on day two. The Biden/Harris debacle will forever be known in the history books as a war administration. President Trump will hold on to and cement his place in history as the only President in modern history to never have a new way start during his term(s). Make the World Peaceful Again!IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted November 24, 2024 09:49 AM
The art of the deal...Russia and Putin see Ukraine's entry into NATO as an existential threat. He will not yield on this. The NATO countries do not recognize this, but in my view, in order for President Trump to be successful, he must and negotiate accordingly. So if President Trump can negotiate a peace agreement that gives Putin what he feels he must have, and gives Ukraine compelling inceptives to accept this that benefits Ukraine's security and sets up conditions for it to prosper as well, then I think the Ukraine war will end. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 24, 2024 12:01 PM
Well-said! Should Putin completely withdraw? Or should he be allowed to keep the territory that he has already gained?IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 24, 2024 02:02 PM
Zelensky will do whatever he is told. Such a good actor he is. Literally. Because he was an actor in real life, before he accepted this role. Except that lives are really on the line this time. He has already signaled that the war is going to end when President Trump takes office again.IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted November 24, 2024 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Well-said! Should Putin completely withdraw? Or should he be allowed to keep the territory that he has already gained?
If Ukraine agrees to relinquish its desire to join NATO thereby Putin getting what he wants, then he needs to offer something substantial to Ukraine in return. But there's a complication in his giving up the territory in Eastern Ukraine. The Donbas region and its people have history and cultural ties with Russia. Also, as I recall, Zelensky has brutally retaliated against the people in the region for its allegiance to Russia, so simply handing the territory back to Ukraine would be an injustice I think. Maybe granting autonomy to the people in the region could work as a compromise. The advantage for Putin is that Russia would have a buffer zone against NATO incursion, but I'm not sure about this. Russia has been invaded twice through the area. But, if Putin would agree to an autonomous or neutral zone, then maybe that would at the same time remove a national security threat from Russia to Ukraine. Maybe Putin could offer to contribute to the rebuilding and restoration of Ukraine or provide other services. Just a thought... IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted November 24, 2024 10:41 PM
By the way, the EU exacted very unfavorable terms for Ukraine's entry into NATO, so giving up this ambition doesn't seem like a loss really, but I may be missing something.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 24, 2024 10:48 PM
Great thoughts. I like the idea of s buffer zone. But it might just be best to let the people decide, which could be letting it go back to mother Russia.IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted November 24, 2024 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Great thoughts. I like the idea of s buffer zone. But it might just be best to let the people decide, which could be letting it go back to mother Russia.
I think this would be best for the people in the region if that's what they want to do. The question is convincing Zelensky to agree to this. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 24, 2024 11:13 PM
I am fairly confident that Zelensky will do what President Trump tells him to. He can’t win this war. I think he knows it.IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted November 24, 2024 11:16 PM
Funny I just posted about this. I just read that in July of last year, Ric Grenell was advocating for "autonomous zones" in Ukraine. quote:
[…] During a Bloomberg roundtable in July, [Grenell] advocated for the creation of “autonomous zones” as a means of settling the conflict, which began after Russia invaded Ukrainian sovereign territory.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/11/24/potential-peacemaker-reuters-president-trump-considering-ric-grenell-for-special-envoy-to-ukraine/#more-266643 IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted November 24, 2024 11:27 PM
The biden admin (not Biden, he is too senile but whoever the puppet masters are) is desperate to keep Trump from ending the conflict as soon as he is inaugurated, because if he does, it will expose them, the people who kept the war going for 2+ years at the tune of $175+ Billions, as the warmongers that they are. So by escalating the conflict 2 months before the inauguration, they have thrown uncertainty and wild cards into whatever plan Trump had in mind. That is a strategic warfare, taking your enemies by surprise and keeping them off balance. I think DT needs to NOT disclose right now how he is going to end the Ukraine conflict, because these forces will think up other ways to counteract him. This is not the time to show your hands. I have a few thoughts of my own on how he could end it, but I will keep them to myself. DT and his close advisers have become smarter and more strategic, having gone through the trial by fire in the wilderness of these past few years and they will figure out what to do. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 24, 2024 11:49 PM
Agreed on all points. IP: Logged |
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