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BlueRoamer
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posted June 18, 2025 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ICE agents wearing street clothes and masks, no badges, are randomly abducting people off the streets and shoving them into cars.

Abductees and observers have no idea if these are agents are not, they do not present badges or any other form of identification. For all anyone knows they could be criminals abducting people for ransom.

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Randall
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posted June 18, 2025 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least get your Amendments correct. 🤦‍♀️

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posted June 18, 2025 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've wondered when someone is going to be carrying, too. They've been breaking car windows to unlock doors, pushing their way into people's homes, when they aren't kidnapping people on the streets.

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posted June 18, 2025 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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At least get your Amendments correct. 🤦‍♀️

I think Blue is referring to people having the right to carry guns, the right to defend themselves.

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Randall
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posted June 18, 2025 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They have arrest warrants.

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teasel
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posted June 18, 2025 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They have arrest warrants.

No they don’t. They’re the ones who are illegal, and you are a person who usually defends the right to stand your ground, and use your guns. If someone attempts to kidnap someone who really believes in their 2a rights, what do you think is going to happen?

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posted June 18, 2025 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the examples you give, yes, they do. If ancillary arrests are made because illegal aliens are around those they have warrants for, they will also be arrested. Lawful arrests are not kidnapping, and no one is falling for that. If you are here illegally, you can be arrested, held, and deported. Period.

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posted June 19, 2025 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No they don’t. They’re the ones who are illegal, and you are a person who usually defends the right to stand your ground, and use your guns. If someone attempts to kidnap someone who really believes in their 2a rights, what do you think is going to happen?

You can't create a make-believe scenario not based on the actual facts of the legal definition for kidnapping and then ask "What do you think is going to happen?"

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posted June 19, 2025 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You can't create a make-believe scenario not based on the actual facts of the legal definition for kidnapping and then ask "What do you think is going to happen?"

Not make-believe.

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posted June 19, 2025 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is. it's all in your head because you believe your marching orders, as you always do.

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posted June 19, 2025 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It is. it's all in your head because you believe your marching orders, as you always do.

No it isn’t, and I don’t have marching orders. You do, and that’s to spread lies for your cult leader, and gaslight the rest of us. Or try to. The whole spiritual/wellness pipeline to alt-right, that’s been around for a while.

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posted June 19, 2025 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The democrats who were assassinated last weekend, by a MAGA assassin, opened the door, because he was cosplaying a policeman.

Not only are these supposed ICE agents not legal, they are cosplaying officers, and could end up paying the price from “the good guy with a gun”.

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posted June 19, 2025 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
even if you have a warrant you need to show badge and uniform and the warrant

2nd amendment will come into play soon

You cant just shove people into vans and hope for the best


Taco Trump is a weak president and will be defeated soon, due to his own incompetence and encroaching dementia

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posted June 19, 2025 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They know they are in the country illegally. They should all expect to be arrested at any moment. ICE agents are law-enforcement. Cosplaying? F*ck around and find out. If you pull a gun on a federal agent, you won’t live to be deported.

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posted June 19, 2025 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They know they are in the country illegally. They should all expect to be arrested at any moment. ICE agents are law-enforcement. Cosplaying? F*ck around and find out. If you pull a gun on a federal agent, you won’t live to be deported.

You know that he’s right, and that you are wrong.

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posted June 19, 2025 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope. If you don’t like the law, change it. Until then, things will continue to proceed as they are.

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posted June 20, 2025 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look who was uncovered as supposed member of the law.
http://x.com/MIAagainstFash/status/1936096996311302313

UPDATE: It’s only getting worse for Miami ICE impersonator Rolando Lavielle.

We’ve obtained his criminal record which includes felony convictions + domestic violence allegation last year — meaning all possession of firearms is illegal. He literally posted his crimes! 1/

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posted June 20, 2025 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Criminals cosplaying as ICE agents, to intimidate protesters. What if a “good guy with a gun” shot them? You would blame the democrat with a gun.

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posted June 20, 2025 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, now you’re pro-gun? 😂

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posted June 21, 2025 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted June 21, 2025 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you have trouble rationalizing concepts, and then you think you posted some kind of "gotcha" when, in fact, you make no sense. Owning a gun is a right. Being in this country illegally subjects you to arrest and deportation, as does impeding such an arrest or hiding an illegal alien. "Due process" only applies to legitimate asylum claims (which must be claimed upon entering the country--NOT WHEN YOU GET ARRESTED--and for which you will receive a court date in the future), not for breaking into our country. If you miss that court date, you can be deported. If you return to this country after being deported, that is a felony.

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