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posted July 25, 2025 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ghislaine is now seeking a pardon.

I feel sick. This is all so corrupt.

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posted July 25, 2025 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don’t feel sick. You were TOLD to feel sick. If you truly did, you would for the criminals Biden pardoned.

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posted July 25, 2025 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ghislaine Maxwell: The harrowing testimony that brought her down

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59736227


Four years ago. And now the prosecutor has been fired, and she’s been offered limited immunity. More than 100 accusers fought for justice.

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The first time I saw Ghislaine Maxwell, I followed her from the door of her luxurious brownstone down the streets of Manhattan, asking her about the horrific allegations against her.

Nearly a decade later, I saw her for the final time, in court and no longer able to run away from the truth about her life with Jeffrey Epstein.

This is one of the most high-profile convictions of a woman for enabling a sex trafficking ring.

And most importantly, it's a major victory for the more than 100 accusers who fought for more than a decade to have Epstein and his co-conspirators face criminal charges.
The 60-year-old daughter of a British media tycoon has been found guilty of grooming and trafficking girls as young as 14 years old for sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

There were several powerful moments inside a packed courtroom in New York City, mainly from the prosecution which kept its case simple to avoid overwhelming the jury.
Their aim was to show Maxwell was Epstein's partner in crime, a sexual predator whose modus operandi was clearly illustrated by four victims' experiences.


The prosecution's opening statement to the jury began with 11 words that sounded like the start of a children's book.
"I want to tell you about a young girl named Jane."
But for these women this was no fairytale. It was a nightmare and it was very real. How real became apparent the following day when Jane took the stand.

She testified that Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein approached her when she was 14 years old at a summer arts camp in 1994.

Over the next two years, she said she was abused about every other week with Maxwell sometimes taking part. This was one of her key exchanges with prosecutors:

Q. What was Maxwell's demeanour like during these incidents?
A. I would say that it seemed very casual, like it was - like it was very normal, like it was not a big deal.
Q. And when she behaved like that, how did that make you feel?
A. Well, it made me feel confused because that did not feel normal to me; I'd never seen anything like this or felt any of this, and it was very embarrassing. You know, it's all these mixed emotions. When you're 14, you have no idea what's going on.

The other accusers would later recount similar experiences.


One of the most heart wrenching testimonies came from Carolyn, who testified under her first name.

The woman was visibly broken down by years of trauma and addiction to pain killers and cocaine. She had been raped by her grandfather at four years old, dropped out of school in the 7th grade, and was neglected by a mother who abused substances.

Carolyn told the court it was one of Epstein's most outspoken accusers Virginia Roberts, now Virginia Giuffre, that first told her at 14 years old that she could make money by massaging a wealthy friend of hers.

Carolyn met Ghislaine Maxwell when she showed up at Epstein's mansion in 2001. Maxwell, she said, told Virginia to take her upstairs to the massage room and "show her what to do." Prosecutors told jurors that by this time period, Maxwell had devised a pyramid scheme of abuse that no longer required her to personally find young girls for Epstein.

Instead, they would reward vulnerable girls who brought someone new with extra cash.

Carolyn was paid hundreds of dollars to "massage" Epstein on each of the over 100 encounters until she "became too old." She brought three other friends to Epstein. Carolyn said Maxwell once told her "she had a great body for Epstein and his friends" before touching her breasts.

The charges against her

Maxwell was convicted on five counts:
conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts
conspiracy to transport minors with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity
transportation of a minor with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity
conspiracy to commit sex trafficking
sex trafficking of minors


The teenage girls often came from troubled homes. Their families faced things like bankruptcy, substance abuse or previous sexual assault.

And even when they didn't, Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein lured them in with friendship, gifts, and promises to help their careers or to pay for schooling. That "grooming" process, prosecutors said, was a key part of Maxwell's "playbook."

She then used the ruse of massages as an excuse to get the girls to touch Epstein and to normalise sexual contact. Prosecutors said Maxwell would walk the girls into a room to be molested and abused, and sometimes was present "to make it all feel normal and casual."

The two other accusers in the indictment were at or over the age of consent in the places the abuse took place, and therefore the judge ruled the sex acts weren't illegal.
Still, Kate going by a pseudonym, and Annie Farmer who publicly identified herself, were equally compelling on the stand to prove Maxwell's grooming tactics.

Ghislaine Maxwell's family had complained about her treatment in prison, saying it amounted to torture.

Nevertheless, in court Maxwell was an extremely engaged and animated defendant. She carefully studied exhibits, looked witnesses in the eye, and often passed notes to her lawyers to convey her thoughts.

She appeared to be in good spirits, hugging her defence team and blowing kisses and waving to her family in court.
Her steely defiance was best captured when the judge Alison Nathan asked her if she would testify in her own defence. Instead of responding to the judge with a simple yes or no, she stood up and informed the court that there was "no need" for her to do so because the prosecution had not proven its case.

Her defence case, in contrast, was less assured. Lawyers called on just nine witnesses over two days. Their strategy relied heavily on poking holes in the case brought by prosecutors, who bear the burden of proving the allegations beyond a reasonable doubt.

The entire foundation of the prosecution's case rested on the four accusers' credibility. It is because their testimony was so convincing to jurors that Ghislaine Maxwell has been convicted.

Legal experts said attacking the women's memories and motives didn't help the defendant.

"Ghislaine Maxwell had the disadvantage of having to explain this parade of young girls who were coming in and out of the home daily underneath her supervision," says Mitchell Epner, a former prosecutor.

"She claimed she knew none of that. And when the jurors concluded that she was a liar, they concluded she was a predator."

One of the only pieces of physical evidence displayed in the courtroom was a green folding massage table taken from a police raid of Epstein's Palm Beach estate in 2005.

It was an attempt from the prosecution to almost recreate the scene of the crimes right there in the middle of the courtroom. A retired police officer testified that they also recovered a box of sex toys.

A hard drive recovered during a separate raid by the FBI of Epstein's Manhattan mansion contained emails sent by Ghislaine Maxwell to a staff member in which she complains that the house manager, Juan Alessi, did not tidy up Epstein's massage creams.

That led the police to Mr Alessi, who provided some of the most damning and X-rated corroborating testimony in the whole trial. Reporters covering the case had to hurriedly write notes to keep up with his startling revelations about the household.

He told the court that Epstein would have three massages a day. When Mr Alessi would clean up after, he would put the sex toys back where they belonged, in a basket in Ghislaine Maxwell's closet, off the master bedroom she shared with Epstein.

Mr Alessi said Epstein or Maxwell would sometimes direct him to contact and pick up young women for massages. He recalled seeing two underage girls that appeared to be 14 or 15 years old, Jane and Virginia Roberts. House rules, including in a 59-page manual, Mr Alessi said, told staff to be deaf, dumb and blind and forbade them from making eye contact with Epstein.

"There was a culture of silence. That was by design, the defendant's design, because behind closed doors, the defendant and Epstein were committing heinous crimes," Assistant US Attorney Lara Pomerantz said.

Police raids of Epstein's homes also produced intimate photos showing the duo's jet-setting, luxurious lifestyle and close connection. In one picture, the pair are seen relaxing at the Queen's Balmoral residence - when Prince Andrew reportedly invited the couple to the Scottish estate. In another, Ghislaine Maxwell is on a private plane with Epstein, massaging his foot and rubbing it against her cleavage.

The staggering wealth on display from opulent properties in Palm Beach, New York and New Mexico only highlighted the vast power dynamics at play. The pair used wealth to lure and make young girls feel indebted to them.

Several witnesses, including the four women, recalled how the duo would name drop their friends in high places, such as Bill Clinton, Donald Trump or Prince Andrew, and display photos of them alongside the Pope John Paul II or Fidel Castro in their properties. None alleged any wrongdoing by Epstein and Maxwell's famous friends.

These connections proved to be no insulation from justice and the conviction is a significant moment for people who are often found at the other end of the social ladder.

"This guilty verdict is immensely meaningful to sexual abuse victims everywhere," said Lisa Bloom, an attorney for eight of Epstein's victims.

"No matter who you are, no matter what kinds of circles you travel in, no matter how much money you have, no matter how many years have passed since the sexual abuse, justice is still possible."

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posted July 26, 2025 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ghislaine Maxwell s3x trafficked underage girls to wealthy and powerful men. Many of the victims have underlined her active part in luring these girls in. There was evidence and Maxwell was convicted.

Any presidential pardon of Maxwell is going to look highly dubious given that likely some very powerful politicians (of every political party) have been clients. Especially if she claims Trump is innocent and this is then used to keep the Epstein files sealed. This will look like overt corruption, even if it's not and that's why it's completely unacceptable and unethical. And if he does this it should be his downfall.

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posted July 26, 2025 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is above your pay grade.

She answered questions for many hours over two days. Her testimony was credible, unique, and powerful. There will definitely be no pardon. She is likely making a deal with the Department of Justice. A commutation is possible, but it is unlikely. It won't be needed.

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posted July 26, 2025 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two months ago, I was peeing blood, and now I’m pooping it!

It’s almost like I said I didn’t want to get into things, two weeks ago, and I just wanted to post articles here. I’m still not looking for responses, because I’ve had chills for the last few days, and now this. Trump supporters will attack me, instead of just sticking to the subject.

Anyway, they’d better not pardon Ghislaine. The immunity given, was a promise that they wouldn’t prosecute her additionally based on new information. It wasn’t immunity, period.

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posted July 26, 2025 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one said she would be pardoned. TV They is s leftist wet dream. If the information is as good as the DOJ thinks it is, it will be worth it.

What even are the Epstein files? No one cares about who ever called or texted or had a conversation with Epstein or who shook his hand at this party or that party. No one give two f*cks. Besides the partisan hacks who have nothing else but this issue for mid-terms, the only thing we want yo know is who went to that island. And for that, they should pay. Whomever it is. Anyone who says “distraction” truly doesn’t care about those children. Distraction is a political word, like consensus with climate change. Show us who went to the island.

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posted July 27, 2025 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And now Trump just launched another distraction from the Epstein files, threatening to prosecute Harris. This is just getting more and more embarrasing. Trump is an international laughing stock.

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posted July 27, 2025 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump might be way deeper into the human trafficking business of underage girls than just a client. Don't forget he had his own modeling agency that was plagued with news about illegal and underage models living in terrible conditions. Not only does Trump have connections with Epstein but also with John Casablancas, another human trafficker that preferred women "on the younger side".

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/video/news/national-international/late-night-trump-modeling-agency-a-couple-things_new-york/2111484/

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-dirty-dozen-12-friends-of-donald-trump-accused-of-sex-crimes-including-vince-mcmahon-and-p-diddy/

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posted July 27, 2025 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Trump was not a client. President Clinton was, however. At worst, President Trump allowed three models to work without the proper visas. We already knew that. We are going to find out what the two days of questioning revealed soon.

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Trump absolutely is incriminated in the Epstein files. If he wasn't he would have no need to call the Epstein files a hoax fabricated by Biden, Comey and Obama. It's obvious he's not only mentioned but also is put into connection with activities that would be bad for public opinion. My guess is he is mentioned in relation to s3x trafficking or at the very least corruption.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-claims-epstein-files-faked-documents-public- years/story?id=123837954

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watc h-asked-if-his-name-appears-in-epstein-files-trump-claims-comey-obama-and-biden-made-them-up

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It's important that the victims of Epstein and Maxwell get justice. The powerful men that raped these girls should not get away with it, their political affiliation is irrelevant. If Clinton or other Democratic politicians are implicated, it needs to be out in the open. They all need to be punished. This can't be burried.

And for Trump, the Epstein files aren't his only offences. There's so much other evidence of his s3x crimes. He needs to be held accountable, for all of it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410

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posted July 28, 2025 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it comes to Ghislaine Maxwell, and the men who raped those girls and women: I wish them the absolute worst.

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posted July 28, 2025 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it comes to Epstein, some people have launched the goal posts into the stratosphere.

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Nope. If President Trump were implicated in any way, Dems would have released that info. He called the existence of a client list a hoax. Something else is going on, but you are too unfocused to realize it. All will be revealed soon. Dershowitz said that no one currently in any political office was implicated. In my opinion, the suicide was a diversion. The corpse was a body double. He was a CIA asset, and the CIA is notorious for faking deaths. Linda write all about it. I think Epstein is still alive. And that is why they can’t release what they found. At least, not yet. But either way, President Trump is only mentioned because everyone who ever had contact with Epstein is mentioned. You know the Dems would have done anything to get rid of President Trump. That info would have been long released. It doesn’t exist. And you know it. Wake up.

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“I never had the privilege of going to the island.”

Wtf.

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She’s appealed to have her conviction overturned. I hope MAGA are happy.

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She is entitled to an appeal. We still live in an American Republic, despite all the Dem communists.

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She’s been given a list of names to confirm. That’s not suspicious at all.

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Do you really think we will get the real Epstein list after all these years? No . Be prepared for a diluted list. I feel so sorry for the masses.


I am sure Ghiselle Maxwell will be provided immunity for her testimonial so she cannot be sued for whatevery she says.

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You TDS deranged will never be happy unless you get your Trump fantasies fulfilled.

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http://www.threads.com/@acynig/post/DMs50fzBY17?xmt=AQF0v7N0faYC8dwJOV3JGfdLzTcu_AkD_h-zduSD6TJxPQ


But they were still friends for years after that.

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16% of Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the Epstein files. 86% think they should be released, per WAPO.
We have finally found an issue Americans agree on!

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So, there was nothing to see, no files, no client names. But now he’s said outright, that girls were trafficked. MAGA can stop with the lies about it being a hoax, just because he wanted it to go away.

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