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teasel
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posted October 01, 2025 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Republicons have the majority in the house and the senate.

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posted October 01, 2025 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First closure since 2018, when trump was the president.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep /30/us-government-shutdown-funding-trump-vance-portland-hegseth-latest-updates

http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgj1p485p0no

http://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/30/what-trump-told-polit ico-about-the-impending-government-shutdown-00586050

http://www.npr.org/2025/09/30/nx-s1-5558393/government-shutdown-trump-ethics-hatch-act[/ URL]

[URL=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/10/1/live-us-government-shuts-down-starts-as-trump-threatens-mass-layoffs]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/10/1/live-us- government-shuts-down-starts-as-trump-threatens-mass-layoffs


Trump blames the democrats for everything, when it isn’t their fault.

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posted October 01, 2025 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me educate you. We need 60 votes. Dems want $1.5 trillion to pay for the healthcare of illegals. That ain’t gonna happen. And Schumer has no testicles. He's terrified of being primaried by AOC. This is the Schumer Shutdown, and everyone knows it. But President Trump now has the authority to DOGE all the cushy programs that Dems love so much. They just royally F'd themselves.

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posted October 01, 2025 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Narcissist Trump refused to meet the democrats on time . Also Mike Johson is not letting the 218th vote to swear in so that we can release the Epstein files.


We need to get to the bottom of people involved in supplying women, children of uncertain age and men to military, congress and God knows what.

It is time to not budge. Trump is firing many anyways . Also by law backwages are due -- no matter the shutdown.

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posted October 01, 2025 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This hurts the Dems’ chances in the mid-terms. Not that they had much of a chance to begin with anyway. Dems want $1.5 trillion in new spending, which is $600 billion more then our defense budget—just to open for four weeks. Dems have seceded their authority to President Trump, who can now determine which employees are essential, which can be permanently fired, and which programs can be irreversibly slashed. You just gave your “dictator” unbridled power. Idiots!

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posted October 01, 2025 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A reporter asked Maxine Water if the dems are demanding healthcare for illegal aliens. Here was her answer:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19eCufx5Gt/

Q: “Are Democrats demanding healthcare for illegal aliens?”

WATERS: “Dems are demanding healthcare for EVERYBODY… What you’re doing is trying to make me say we’re putting noncitizens over Americans. QUIT IT! STOP IT! You’re being divisive! You don’t need to ask that question! You’re just trying to get controversy! You’re NOT gonna get it from me!”

That was a simple YES, or NO question. Her entire rant tells us she doesn't have the honesty to admit that YES, the dems are demanding healthcare for illegal aliens, because she realizes this is highly unpopular.

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posted October 02, 2025 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are defined as 'person' not 'citizen' per 5th amendment and deserve it.

Bernie says 50000 will die per year if Medicaid /Medicare budget is not approved. Rights don't care anyways if they die-- Trump perhaps arrested more persons in a single day than Hitler.

Also Obama care premiums will go up 20% I believe. Many many have benefitted by Obamacare. Shutdown is the right time to shrink the government in the right areas and not violate constitutional rights of every Americans because they are contributing to its society in some manner.


There was a time when home values were affordable and costed a third of monthly pay. Now homes are 10 -20 times and wage is not increasing. I doubt a college grad today will ever be able to buy a home in 20 years. Compare this to wages of CEOs. Gap between workers and CEO's used to be 3-5 may be 10 times... Now it is staggering. Why can't they pay more taxes ? Natural resources belongs to every one --- They are exploiting it and becoming rich at the cost of poor people. Is this not capitalism? All ism will perish in the new age , as understanding rises. Common sense will prevail as Human becomes more learned of their surroundings and of the nature of their fellow human beings.

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posted October 02, 2025 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, no! Bernie says that 50,000 people will die! That idiot!

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posted October 02, 2025 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why brah?

He quoted a stats.

Do you know how many average medications americans are on? Highest in the world . quiet telling. Yes, they will die if disruption in schedules.

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posted October 02, 2025 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where did Bernie get that number? You just believe any shite you are told from the left, don’t you?

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posted October 02, 2025 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What stat did he quote? The one that he made up?

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posted October 02, 2025 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Schumer bowed to the far left. The Schumer Shutdown. Meanwhile, back on the ranch, President Trump is cutting program after program from Dems.

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posted October 03, 2025 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump and Vance have been lying about the reasons the government was shut down. As usual.

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posted October 03, 2025 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don’t you tell us what your puppet masters told you to believe?

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posted October 03, 2025 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What the Research and Fact-Checking Say
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A letter from Yale and the University of Pennsylvania (to Senate leaders) estimates that 51,000 preventable deaths per year could result from combined policy changes:
• ~42,500 deaths from loss of Medicaid / ACA coverage plus changes to nursing home staffing rules.
• Additional ~8,811 deaths tied to the expiration of enhanced ACA premium tax credits.
Yale School of Public Health

The Penn–Yale estimate is cited by fact-checkers, but they also point out that Sanders’ use of the full 51,000 includes deaths from credit expirations not strictly from the proposed big beautiful bill itself.

The research acknowledges uncertainty — modeling effects of insurance loss on mortality is complex and involves many assumptions.

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posted October 03, 2025 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Key word: Modeling. Climate change models have failed every single time. Garbage In = Garbage Out. Medicare and Medicaid are not being cut. Furthermore, what about all the deaths caused doctors and hospitals each year? Sometimes, it is safer NOT to have insurance.

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