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Randall
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posted October 31, 2025 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm normally against that. However, it may be time to do so. That will open the government back up, but it will allow Re[ublicans to pass anything they want for the next three years. Do it! And let Obamacare collapse on its own.

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posted October 31, 2025 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know enough, have not researched enough this issue to have a coherent opinion in the pro and con of eliminating the Filibuster.

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posted October 31, 2025 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for as letting Obamacare collapse, the problem is if it does collapse, what will replace it? I am not sure I understand your comment.

The issue of healthcare, universal and otherwise, was one the republicans neglected for decades that they were in power, which led to a Wild Wild West type of medical system, where only those who were lucky to have insurance through work were fine. Insurance companies routinely reject/deny people on the basis of previous conditions. Many people went without treatments.

This unfortunate situation gave an opening to Obama in 2008 to present himself as someone who was willing to fix an issue the GOP neglected.

Is the GOP about to make the same mistake and think we don't need to have a coherent and functioning healthcare system?

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posted October 31, 2025 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obamacare’s premiums are set to go up even with the subsidies being renewed. Dems will lie about that. The GOP has a replacement that is almost finished. It will keep the preexisting conditions provision and college kids remaining on their parents’ insurance. But I think the thing you and I definitely agree on is that illegal aliens should not be able to use it.

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posted November 01, 2025 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Basically, the filibuster just requires 60 votes in the Senate, as opposed to a simple majority of 51 votes. In theory, this protects the rights of the minority party. But Dems have already vowed to eliminate it the next time they are in power, so we might as well take advantage of it now, since Dems refuse to govern.

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posted November 01, 2025 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
[B]Obamacare’s premiums are set to go up even with the subsidies being renewed. Dems will lie about that. The GOP has a replacement that is almost finished. It will keep the preexisting conditions provision and college kids remaining on their parents’ insurance. But I think the thing you and I definitely agree on is that illegal aliens should not be able to use it.

I can't wait to hear more about the replacement the GOP has in mind They need to start talking about it so that people can understand that they are indeed working on a viable alternative, and not just letting Obamacare implode.

And yes, I agree that illegal aliens should not be able to use it. That doesn't mean that in case of immediate life and death situation, for instance if there is a car accident and the EMS people come to the scene, they are going to let people bleed to death in the streets because they are illegal aliens. Of course they will take people to ER who is going to administer care regardless of status. But incidents like these are relatively rare and the city or state can cover these expenses without needing federal funds.

Unfortunately, those "sanctuary" cities or states give illegal aliens automatic access to all levels of our healthcare, which becomes another incentive for those who are there illegally to NOT self-deport.

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posted November 01, 2025 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Basically, the filibuster just requires 60 votes in the Senate, as opposed to a simple majority of 51 votes. In theory, this protects the rights of the minority party. But Dems have already vowed to eliminate it the next time they are in power, so we might as well take advantage of it now, since Dems refuse to govern.

Well indeed, if the dems have vowed to eliminate it the next time they are power, we should take advantage of it NOW!

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posted November 01, 2025 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree if it is lifesaving, care should not be denied. That is the policy of the Trump Administration. For instance, the border was closed, but 7 people made it in one month a while back, and that is because they had emergency health situations requiring care or they might have died, so they were allowed in and given medical care.

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posted November 02, 2025 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent points!

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