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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted November 22, 2010 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Please feel free to move this if it belongs on another forum.

What is Astrology?

So, I was browsing Lindaland Central 2.0 because admittedly, I have not explored LL as I much as I should, and the discovery of this forum has made me want to see what else LL has to offer.

After all, as Randall stated, LL is an astrology community.

Incidentally, a quick Google search will yield the discovery that many such astrology communities exist on the web. Some are better than others. I happen to believe that LL is the best.

as·trol·o·gy noun \ə-ˈsträ-lə-jç\
1archaic : astronomy
2: the divination of the supposed influences of the stars and planets on human affairs and terrestrial events by their positions and aspects

In short, ASTROLOGY is primarily relating to how the STARS and PLANETS impact HUMAN LIVES.

It really can't be said any plainer than that.

Someone asked "What does rough sex have to do with astrology?"

EVERYTHING! Astrology is about people. What they think, feel, believe, how they behave, interact, make love, make war, and impact their environment. The difference between someone who likes rough sex and someone who doesn't is astrology. Human beings all over the world may contemplate suicide, but the difference between someone who will discuss it openly and someone who will not is astrology.

LL is a community. These forums were created so that people who share something in common, which is their love of astrology, could come together as a COMMUNITY and interact. There is something here for everyone.

I don't think the problem with LL is that there is too much diversity here. I think the problem with LL is that people have lost sight of the human element of LL and forgotten that astrology is about PEOPLE and stars. They have gotten so caught up in the esoteric meaning of this asteroid and that aspect and forgotten the entire point of the art and the science of it all, which is that it is meant to discern how it all impacts the HUMAN mind and the HUMAN heart.

Getting LL back is not about getting rid of Sweet Peas, or unbanning certain people. It is about remembering why we are here, why we love astrology, and what astrology is about.

This is what other communities do, and this is what Linda Goodman loved to do.

Remembering the human element of astrology does not mean abandoning new discoveries, advanced theories, or complex analysis...but the personal element must not be forgotten.

There truly is something here for everyone. I firmly believe that.

And if you don't, well maybe this isn't the place for you anymore. People and things do outgrow each other, after all.

Please look inside yourself and think about that before posting any more negativity.

As always, this is just my .02.

Thank you,
StarrofVenusGirl


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NickiG
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posted November 22, 2010 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
wonderfully said, soul sister

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the better the chase, the better the reward

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted November 22, 2010 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks. It's quiet. Which means no one's here, I've been completely blown off, or they're thinking about what I said LOL.

Hopefully the latter. This dramafest has got to stop though.

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NickiG
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posted November 22, 2010 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
maybe its neither, lol

but yea, for sure, who cares if we flirt? right?? LOL, sweet peas is all about the adult theme, which includes flirting

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the better the chase, the better the reward

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Randall
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posted November 22, 2010 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
This is actually a perfect topic for this Forum. Lindaland is a progression--a growing, living site with its own personality and Energy. It is the etheric combination of all of the Knowflakes here...and who have ever been here. It never moves backwards, because it can't. Growth is outward, upward, and onward. Sure, it was a Love and Light marshmallowey fluffy place 100 percent of the time--when it had ten members. Lindaland insists on growing. We had a mass exodus where everyone left. I mean everyone. In two months, it was bigger than ever before. Just over a year ago, after growing for a full eight years, every single member was deleted. Including me! Within a month, we were back at top posting levels, and now just over a year later, we are larger than we have ever been. Lindaland is doing great things for people, helping in ways that are incalculable. For example, let's say I buy a book for ten cents at a yard sale. I love that book and don't want to part with it. But I donate it to the public library. Does the Universe reward me? Sure. That's just Universal Law. Does the Universe value my gift at ten cents? No way. I gave a gift that is priceless. Many people over time will be able to experience joy or be helped that never would have been had I not donated that book. The value is not able to be quantified. The same applies when one Knowflake helps another, listens to another, sympathizes with another, or loves another. You can't buy that for any price. You can't sell it. It is given--freely and openly. And it is priceless. This is the most special place on the entire Net. And I have been entrusted by whatever higher power to protect it. I take that responsibility very seriously. Like any leader, I have had to make tough decisions, and I have also made errors of judgment. I'm human. But I always try to do the right thing in my life. And I always do what I feel in my heart is the best thing for Lindaland, even when those decisions are not popular ones.

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"A heart of gold cannot be borrowed, bought, or sold."

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NickiG
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posted November 22, 2010 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
thats an absolutely wonderful analogy, randall

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the better the chase, the better the reward

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted November 22, 2010 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
I have a very good feeling about the growth that LL will experience soon with your modifications Randall.

I think a lot of people lurk here for one (I'm sure your analytics can confirm this). I lurked here a long time before I registered.

Lately, I think the topics in Astro 2.0 may have become a bit intimidating for a newbie student of astrology. But that is the last thing we need as we approach 2012! More people will be seeking enlightenment on esoteric topics than ever before! I think renaming the Basic Astrology forum was a brilliant idea. I hope that members like Glaucus, who are so patient and good at explaining things come back. Raymond would have been an excellent contribution to that forum.

These new members will also be overwhelmed and bogged down with our frequent discussions of asteroids and the like that dominate Astro 2.0. And they will be fascinated by the "real life" discussions of astrology at play that take place at Sweet Pea. This has quickly become my favorite forum (my post count is going to be insane if I keep going at this rate)

I hope that existing members of LL will expand beyond the tried and true and visit some of the current and new forums to help LL grow also. I have tried to become more active on other forums in recent months, especially Universal. I think the Dreams forum could take off if nurtured properly. I need to post there more often, I have vivid dreams and a gift for dream interpretation.

Etc. etc. etc. I think LL see exponential growth in the coming months.

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Randall
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posted November 22, 2010 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Nicki. Your opinion is very highly valued.

Starr, I believe you are right. I've never seen a Forum kick off like this one. I think Lindaland just about encompasses everything for everyone now...and all with a Linda Goodman theme.

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"A heart of gold cannot be borrowed, bought, or sold."

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 22, 2010 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
FREEDOM OF SPEECH & ANTI-DISCRIMINATION... let's bring in 2011 and beyond with an open mind and a honest heart!!!

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SunChild
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posted November 22, 2010 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Absolutely Star of Venus Girl!

You got it!!!! & Thank you!

Randall

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BearsArcher
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posted November 22, 2010 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message
Well said Star and Randall. I totally agree. LL is fluid, like people, changeable, like people and evolves, like people.

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LEXX
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posted November 23, 2010 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message

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Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal...LEXX
~Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~Carl Sagan
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine. ~Nikola Tesla"
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Diablo
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posted November 23, 2010 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
SOVG and Randall, well said. And eloquently too. I agree 150%

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Randall
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posted November 23, 2010 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, we have a massive amount of lurkers. I never really understood that. I would always want to get involved. Not that there's anything wrong with it. I just don't understand it. But out of the several hundred new registrations per week, a few will start posting and join the family. The past few days have been booming with registrations, and I haven't done approvals. I am soooooo far behind. Ugh.

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Lara
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posted November 24, 2010 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
ATTENTION ALL -
THIS POST IS FROM PURPLE:
(she asked me to post it on her behalf)

Randall,

Firstly I wanted to say that I have been coming on here for years and I have never had an issue with yourself or anyone on here and neither has Spanky. In fact I don't think I have ever spoken with you because I am always on Astro2. Anyways that day I woke up and found out Spanky had been banned, I got on my computer and read through the thread within minutes of you banning her and I do admit I was pi$$ed off you banned my friend especially once I read what was going on and she didn't do anything wrong. There was no foul language or any abuse towards anybody. Ami kept bringing up your name even though she never mentioned you. She kept insinuating that she knew it was you. I don't feel the need to message you privately because I would prefer it happened publicly so that everyone else could see what really went on...
Spanky quoted:

quote:
PS AMI - You misunderstand & I need to clear this up.
I am not opposed to those threads & as you've seen, some damn naughty things can & do come out of my mouth quite frequently.

What has sickened me is the blatant innuendo coming from a man almost 50 to a young impressionable girl.
I don't care what other people call it, I say it's predatory & makes me wanna hurl my breakfast.
Sorry for the misunderstanding ladies. I have no beef with you. Ami, take a chill pill sweetie, it's all good.


Regardless of what she has said here she has stated her personal opinion which shouldn't be discriminated just because your the webmaster. I understand this is your website but to compare this place to your personal home when this is a "public forum" is a bit ridiculous. - referring to Ami.

Now after Spankys comment Ami commented:

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I am glad we are friends again, Spanky
The thing about LL is that it is Randalls home, if you will.
He gives us LL as a gift. Most people have never even donated anything to him.
This is all his gift to US.
He allows us in as guests by his generousity.
It is not right to be in his home and complain about him in such a way
I would like you to erase it, Spanky,if you would so he would not have to see it.
I will erase my post ,too.
Ask your heart what is the right thing to do.
I trust you to do what feels right to you.
Can somebody please point out where Spanky mentioned your name? I believe your not even 50 am I right? It was AMI ANNE who accused her of talking about yourself. Had Spanky directly referred to you I am alost certain she would have agreed with Ami rather than object her point of view. She furter wrote comments such as ..

Why do you mention Randall specifically Ami? I mentioned no names & post no links to infer him. - I'm also curious where you came up with this Ami?
We have a differing opinion on my original question & that's cool Ami. She was referring to your initial post/misunderstanding prior to your accusations.
To each their own I guess.
PS as ps not PlutoSquared
I'll not apologize or remove my words. That implies that I have done something wrong & I haven't. - What is she apologising for Ami? Which of the above comments were addressed to you Randall?

EFIT - As I understand it Randall created a public forum based on Linda Goodman & her principles and life's work. One of which was an open attitude to discussion.
I do have that right don't I? - We all reserve the right to have that. An opinion regardless of what the matter is. I also believe as Webmaster you need to maintain your sense of equilibrium and remain subjective .

Again spanky commented saying to Ami.. "Still not mentioning Randall here Ami" and then Randall commented after it and didn't have a problem with it at that point until Spanky commented 3 more times to which she understood was "either party with us or F OFF". Fair enough Spanky doesn't need to post there if she doesn't like it but is she not entitled to give any feedback? Is it only Nickig's or Frauleins opinion that matters? We have all been regulars on here for many long years and to mention that Pluto Squared is loyal is a JOKE! She's been on here for 3 months.

Ok before I end up all over the place trying to explain it in the end I commented back saying something which wasn't out of conext or rude in any way and was a response to your message saying who the F do you thnk you are to my friend. Of course I will defend her because I am loyal to my friends. At that point in time I was not rude to you either. But guess what happened? Within minutes my initial comment was DELETED and I was banned as well. This time I signed back on with my other username because I was fired up and mad at the fact that you deleted the thread and my post. I retaliated and wanted to get my message across but this time came back with something not so nice but I felt you used your power over us to manipulate the situation which resulted in me posting F YOU everywhere.

I have had times on here where people have said some really nasty things to me including calling me a FAT PIG and a FAT COW (Here is a previous thread- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014733-3.html) and I didn't come this close to going insane ever but I love Spanky and the minute her or some of my other friends are not allowed or banned from here I don't want to be here either without them. Just like you I have Virgo rising and I am a Cancerian which happened to be provoked on a Full moon. I am very protective of those who I love and care about. I don't even get offended easily and have never provoked or insulted people with intention to hurt their feelings.

Note to Fraulein (PS) and NickiG: I also wanted to add that I got banned and my posts were deleted prior to me posting F YOU comments everywhere get your facts right before you talk sh1t!

I felt as if there was no justice in what happened and I retaliated.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 24, 2010 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
This follows me around like a bad hair cut

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 24, 2010 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Whatever, you venemous snakes! You're lucky Randall likes ya, cuz I'd toss you quick - x's 100...

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Lara
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posted November 24, 2010 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH & ANTI-DISCRIMINATION... let's bring in 2011 and beyond with an open mind and a honest heart!!!


Go on then... after you, Fraulein!

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Randall
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posted November 24, 2010 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, we are moving on from this now. The people who have left are invited back. If they choose not to come back, that's fine. If they choose to return at a later date, that's fine. You've posted their side more than once. It's time to let it go. Stop spreading negativity. If you are that unhappy here, then maybe you should find a place that makes you happy. But quit mucking up our Forums with negativity. Okay? I am beginning to think that you're doing this intentionally to stir up trouble. I hope that I'm wrong.

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Lara
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posted November 24, 2010 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I am not spreading negative sh1t Randall... enough of that is put down by your mods.
Show me where i'm spreading negativity?!

Apart from posting Belgz's words at her request, I'm just bringing to light the truth and one day you may thank me for being the only one in your forum who has the balls to stand up and call a spade a spade and show you the bigger picture for the greater good of Lindaland.

So maybe you should pick your loyalist campaigners more carefully in future.

Love lil miss positive.

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Randall
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posted November 24, 2010 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
You've done your job. Now let it go. Keep it behind the scenes and off the Forums, please. I'm well aware of what happened, and you and I simply have to choose to disagree about the details. I've forgiven all involved, and I'm moving on. You should also.

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted November 24, 2010 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
It sounds to me like Belgz wants to come back. I don't have a problem with Lara posting her email since that's the only way to communicate with Belgz at the moment and since I wasn't here, it was nice to see her side.

BUT BUT BUT...let's not start the argument again.

STARS ABOVE!

Thank you Lara. Hi Belgz! PS, even though you have only been here a few short months, I find your contributions very valuable.

In the interest of being direct, I think that is one of the underlying issues that we are going to need to heal in order to move on peacefully from this conflict...

Let me just be frank...

I think some members who have been here for years don't quite know what to make of the intense bond that Randall has developed with some of the newer members. Especially since they have made moderators.

However, the length of time someone has been a member here has nothing to do with the contributions they make to this community. Ami for example has been here far less longer than I have (I've been here surprisingly longer than most posters) but is an extremely active member who goes out of her way to interact with a variety of people. In particular, the issues that weigh on her consciousness are particularly relevant to the forum which she now moderates. The same with NickiG, who is both new to astrology and expresses a curiousity and thirst for knowledge on the subject that makes her candidacy for moderation of Basic Astrology appropriate.

I have seen Randall practically begging for mods in the past and few stepping up. Now he finds enthusiastic acceptance and there's a problem...Murphy's Law.

Randall's always been around. This is his board. I frequent numerous online message boards where the webmaster is an unknown or an infrequent guest. Every now and then a topic comes around that catches their interest and they are enthusiastically welcomed. Sweet Peas happens to be such a place for him. Let's think about that...maybe we can figure out Mr. Randall a bit more.

In any event...back to the topic at hand.

Again, thank you Lara. In conjunction (haha!) with my comments on another thread, I understand Belgz's and others' desire to be heard, so I appreciate the opportunity to view their feedback. I only ask that we not devolve once again into contention.

Carry on.

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