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Topic: Is saying, I love you a figure of speech??
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StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 185 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 07, 2011 10:44 PM
I went out with friends and when it was time to go home my lifelong male friend gave my oldest and dearest girlfriend a hug and said, "I love you." They do not see each other too much and know one another through me. I have heard him throw out those words quite often over the years to many different people. Later on I asked him, "Do you really love her? Do you love her like you love me?" He said, "It is a figure of speech." I replied, "What the heck does that mean?"How can some people say I love you like it is not anything special? When others will not say it until it is absolutely the right time when they have truly fallen in love. And still there are men that will not say it at all even if they feel it. My male friend is an Aries Sun, Pisces Venus, Capricorn Mars, Aries Mercury, and Aquarius Moon. IP: Logged |
rajji Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted May 08, 2011 10:09 AM
Great topic! From my personal experience what I have learnt is love is a chemical imbalance. Casual love and Real love...is what you are addressing here..sadly love has become a trend lately! Commercialised love..Expression of love in 21st century is largely commercialised. Some multi national companies are already en cashing it. What next can we expect ? They tell you what to eat and wear And how you should love and care So they created a day called "Valentine's" When love becomes very blind. They sell you roses costing ten times more For fifty, they'll take it to her door If love is measured by roses red What happens when they droop and fade. Candlelight dinner you can't afford Can't tell her, or your status will drop If love is measured by where we dine What happens when stomach's not fine. A fanciful costly card you must buy Everyone's doing it, so you don't ask why. If love is measured by what's on a card What happens when words fail the heart. Newspapers want to make money too Reserve love columns just for you If love is measured by such publicity What happens when faced with the ordinary. Why let love be so commercialised An annual affair, reduced to a price Senseless competition of status and style By those all geared up to make a big pile. It's the giving of yourself each day In the many small and simple ways That make you a true and precious friend
Love on demand..............dating sites , love pills.........to fall in love............or treatment to cure love.......anything is possible in this modern age.The very sanctity of love has been encroached. The new pink revolution has begun! "If love's in the air, it's not really visible. But, like a cliché, it repeats itself relentlessly, breathlessly. In more ways than, one, it's a sign of the times, a Freudian slip if you wish, the unrequited longing for love, the insatiability of desire, the emptiness of easy emotions.Nothing eclectic or innocent about it. Love as a commodity. Love for sale. Buy one get two free or vice versa. Love to be consumed on a particular day. Love to be purchased in the nearest shop. Love in the marketplace. Love to be measured in the competitive value system of how much money you can spend on that babe you dig. While we all know that after all, a rose is a rose is a rose. And Be Mine Forever or Forget Me Not are more metaphors. Bitter realism. Sweet and sour realism. Hence, this 'I Love You' seems a bit too concocted and badly cooked. Now I can truly say, without hesitation or despair: True. Love's truly in the air"
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9373 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 08, 2011 10:13 AM
I think it is Greek which has 5 words for love. That would help ------------------ Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 185 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 08, 2011 06:43 PM
I think it is so sad. How do you really, really know when someone loves you then? It is NOT the words, "I love you." It is the giving of yourself each day in the many small and simple ways as rajji stated. It is ACTIONS.Anyone think it is a person's signs and aspects that contribute to feelings of casual love versus true love? IP: Logged |
starfox Knowflake Posts: 216 From: London England Registered: Aug 2010
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posted May 08, 2011 06:44 PM
The English language has only one word for love, but love as a word itself has so many connotations. What is so bad about loving many people?(my Venus in Aquarius is talking here..)he loves your friend,he loves you too..Or are you loving him and your love is not being reciprocated by him?
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RMChex Knowflake Posts: 326 From: England Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 08, 2011 07:00 PM
I love a lot of people, and say it semi-often. My trouble is I rarely 'like' people - its either love or hate, there's no grey area for me.So to answer your question, no I don't think it is a figure of speech and I think most people are wise enough to know its depth when they are using it. (There will always be exceptions of course.) Is it possible that your Aries Sun friend was saying it to provoke jealousy/action in you at all? Without knowing the background it is hard to say. Rachel x ------------------ Where possible, give people a piece of your heart, not a piece of your mind. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 185 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 08, 2011 08:50 PM
Hi. This male friend and I have known one another since we were 5 years old and we are 40 now. We love each other in a special connection way and we both understand this bond. It is mutually felt and discussed. No jealousy put out there. He flirts with every and any female - young, old, big, small ... I am so used to it by now. I am surprised how he says, "I love you" to people (men and women) he sees only on occasion and I know he does not truly LOVE them. They are not his best friends, family, etc. His Aquarius Moon may be a factor. However, I am an Aquarius Sun and I say, "I love you" to people I deeply care about. Also, I do admit, I say it when it is deemed appropriate such as to my mother-in-law. IP: Logged |
RMChex Knowflake Posts: 326 From: England Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 09, 2011 04:26 AM
Interesting. Perhaps he might have been used to his family saying it more often than most? If not, he obviously just likes the sound of it and giving others a nice warm fuzzy feeling!------------------ Where possible, give people a piece of your heart, not a piece of your mind. IP: Logged |
cathy Knowflake Posts: 107 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted May 10, 2011 02:13 AM
My ex-husband use to tell me every day that he loved me. I left him for his infidelity,I don't know if he told "them" he loved them. I don't know why anyone uses the phrase so casually.IP: Logged |
rajji Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted May 10, 2011 04:25 AM
Me too I Would never fall in love at first sight...(lesson learnt)and would never ever use The Word LOVE to those who are not worth it.And those who are fit for it will have to wait for a lifetime.True Love happens only once in a lifetime and lasts forever.IP: Logged |
saronna Knowflake Posts: 241 From: Australia Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 10, 2011 04:50 AM
I am so deeply in love with my soulmate and my soulmate screams from the mountian tops that he loves me as deeply. I have no problem screaming from the mountian tops that I love you so much! IP: Logged |
saronna Knowflake Posts: 241 From: Australia Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 10, 2011 04:54 AM
The sound of sunshine is when my soulmate tells me through everthing that all storms will pass 'Real love' IP: Logged |
saronna Knowflake Posts: 241 From: Australia Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 10, 2011 04:56 AM
Passion for life 'Only love is real'IP: Logged |
saronna Knowflake Posts: 241 From: Australia Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 10, 2011 04:59 AM
Only love is realIP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 788 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 10, 2011 05:50 AM
quote: when it was time to go home my lifelong male friend gave my oldest and dearest girlfriend a hug and said, "I love you." They do not see each other too much and know one another through me. I have heard him throw out those words quite often over the years to many different people. Later on I asked him, "Do you really love her? Do you love her like you love me?" He said, "It is a figure of speech." I replied, "What the heck does that mean?"
I do say "I love you" to my close friends and family members - (not as a figure of speech) - I mean it! I don't think "I love you" is purely romantic. Maybe it's a culture difference. My background is European. I also have Aries Sun and Cap Mars - and Pisces influence. Is his Mars conj Neptune? IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 185 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 10, 2011 04:50 PM
He does not have Mars conjunct Neptune. His Neptune placements are: Jupiter conj. Nep. Venus conj. Nep. Nep. sextile Pluto Moon sq. NeptuneIP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 8251 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 10, 2011 07:40 PM
There are many different kinds of love and varying levels within each kind...and most of the time, those involved in the exchange have a mutual understanding of what love means for them. Isn't that really what matters? As long as they are comfortable saying it and mutually agree to its meaning...even if silently. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 185 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 10, 2011 08:31 PM
Randall, that was lovely. I think the most beautiful love is when you just touch one another and you know how much that person cares for you. No words are actually needed. It is so sweet and peaceful.My question is .. What if someone says, I love you in a casual, friendly kind of way and the receiver takes it as more? That is when it gets confusing. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 8251 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 10, 2011 11:30 PM
That is a problem on the recipient's end, as they should know better.IP: Logged |
rajji Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted May 11, 2011 12:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: That is a problem on the recipient's end, as they should know better.
I dont understand that randall... Why Does This Happen In Love??? In exchange for faith, why does a person not receive faith? In exchange for prayer, why does a person not receive prayer? In exchange for joy, why does a person not receive joy? Why does this happen in love? How much will love cause you to cry! It will make you forget the whole world. It will increase your anxiety; you won't know one moment of peace. What people become in love and from what! Sometimes you come together only to be separated. In this spring, you find only an autumn. Life ends while you're still waiting. In exchange for laughter, why is a person not given laughter? In exchange for faith, why does a person not receive faith? This moment doesn't linger. No watch is mounted over memories. When one's wound does not heal even with medicine, imagine what someone might do in such a state. In exchange for joy, why does a person not receive joy? In exchange for faith, why does a person not receive faith? Why does this happen in love? By malabikajay IP: Logged |
rajji Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted May 11, 2011 12:50 AM
why did this "big love" happen?Was it a fluke? Was is our destiny? A divine plan? Were we just soul mates destined to find each other? Was it karma? Can it happen to anyone? These are all legitimate questions... The Answer to it can definitely not be a YES. IP: Logged |
Frozen Queen Moderator Posts: 292 From: 11th Dimension Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 11, 2011 05:48 AM
I've said I Love You to many people and it doesn't have to be taken in a romantic/sexual sense.I love my parents and my sister...that's filial love. I love my friends, I only have a few and when I'm happy within I hug them and tell them I love them...that's fraternal love. I love my dog, I raised her as a pup and she is psychically attuned to my feelings...that's unconditional love. In my relationships, I'm quite and reserved and if I say I love you it is meant at the time. I don't think that three words can seal the deal on forever. Love is not a contract, it is a conscious choice to care and support your partner and in turn be cared for and supported by them. I don't believe that just because you say the three magic words means you're in a relationship. For two people, whether they are two men or two women or a man and a woman, to be in a relationship, there has to be a mutual give and take, where the two choose to stay with each other rather than because of some obligation and Love each other and nurture each other. To put it crudely, just because someone says they love you, doesn't mean they wanna do the forever and ever with you. Why the fixation on three words? Reminds me of a sweet song quote: The heretic seal beyond divine, A prayer to a god whose deaf and blind, The last rites for souls on fire, Three little words and a question why?
It is the why that matters. Why you chose one person over all others to be with. hope this helped. ------------------ Ask Me anything. Anything. I will contrive to bring you the answer. The whole universe will I use to do this. So be on the lookout. This book is far from My only tool. You may ask a question, then put this book down. But watch. Listen. The words to the next song you hear. The information in the next article you read. The story line of the next movie you watch. The chance utterance of the next person you meet. Or the whisper of the next river, the next ocean, the next breeze that caresses your ear—all these devices are Mine; all these avenues are open to Me. I will speak to you if you will listen. I will come to you if you will invite Me. I will show you then that I have always been there. All ways. ♥
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 8251 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 11, 2011 12:47 PM
Wise words.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 8251 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 11, 2011 12:48 PM
Wise words.IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 118 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 11, 2011 01:13 PM
Yes indeed! I like what you had to say about it too, Randall.IP: Logged |