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Topic: Dear Road
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Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1037 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2011 10:02 AM
Dear Road, In order to interact in any social setting a minimum degree of manners and proper behaviour is required of most members of society. The following statements you made towards me:
“sleep with less than ten people a week...I know this may be hard for you at first, but try slowly to ween yourself off of being permiscuous for the sake of your genitals” “perhaps you should refrain from having children...the advice you give is a testament to your lack of good genetics” “she (in reference to me) has permiscuous raunchy unrestrained sex and she thinks this is sacred” + referring to maybe four different knowflakes as sociopaths. -- do not meet that minimum standard of behaviour.
I also believe, judging by your chart (but I cannot be certain since I do not know you personally) – that you are aware of the fact that your behaviour on LL has been entirely out of place on a number of occasions – which includes your most recent behaviour towards me.
My only explanation is that you do not take LL seriously, and you do not take the rules concerning social interaction on LL seriously – and further that you do not take the posters here seriously as actual persons with actual lives. I assume we are all nicknames to you and this is a setting to “blow off steam” .. and play games or “stir the pot”. Somehow I have a very hard time imagining that a Capricorn man (who has no recognized psychological illnesses or neurological deficiencies) would behave in a similar obnoxious manner in a social setting which he did take seriously. Perhaps I am putting too much emphasis on the astrology here - but somehow that is beyond the realms of my imagination. You must simply think this is a BIG playground for you and that your words have no consequences in the real world. I felt I should inform you that unfortunately words CAN have real consequences… whether they are written or spoken. The difference is in RL you know exactly who you are dealing with and who you are insulting, whereas in this setting you have absolutely no clue who your insults are directed at. Considering the fact that you have posted pictures and videos of yourself left, right and centre - an element of caution regarding the way in which you present yourself - would probably be wise (which is an opinion and NOT an advice). Best, Betty IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11017 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2011 10:12 AM
Dear Betty I don't want to butt in to your business,Darling. I know how it feels to be hurt and frustrated by various interactions . However,do you think you could stay out of Road's way rather than engage if you find him to be offensive. I have to do this on many occasions with people. I am sure people grit their teeth with me.In fact,I know it LL is a big world with a lot of posters. This would be my humble suggestion if you would take it in that vein.------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1037 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2011 10:15 AM
Dear Ami, It is ok, I do not feel frustrated. Thank you for your help, BBIP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11017 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2011 10:17 AM
Your are welcome Betty Thank you for receiving my post so graciously.------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1037 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2011 10:18 AM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11017 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2011 10:20 AM
------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 8973 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2011 06:47 PM
Ignoring someone who doesn't get along with you is one thing, but those comments are very offensive and unjustifiable. I did not see them or I would have warned and then suspended Road.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 8973 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2011 06:57 PM
He has been warned.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1037 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2011 06:59 PM
Thank you Randall Would you be able to also close this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/208719.html IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 8973 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2011 07:40 PM
Done! Sorry, I have been busy and didn't read any of that until a few minutes ago. Lindaland has been free of contention for a long time, and it will remain that way. IP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 867 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2011 08:48 PM
From the little I read I would have been bothered or hurt. Betty you are too empathic to be a sociopath.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1037 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2011 10:25 PM
Thanks so much Randall! mochai - thanks for saying that.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11017 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 06, 2011 09:53 AM
Please Road Darling You have a wonderful sense of humor and are a brilliant man. If someone irritates you as we ALL do to each other, just express that irritation without name calling or simply walk away. I do this every day here. People rub me the wrong way on purpose or just in passing lol It is just life with other people Sweetie. I hate to see you lose your ability to be here. You have a great deal to offer with your intelligence,wit and Astrological insight If you need a place to vent, you know how to contact me. You can vent all you want in a private setting lol------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 396 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted June 06, 2011 04:19 PM
This is the main reason why I'm considering leaving LL. I know it doesn't really matter, but I just wanted to put in my two cents.I came here a long time ago. I just kept on reading and reading the forum, not posting, because I didn't know much back then and I was absorbing information. The people here were amazing! It was the best online community I have ever "met". And I loved... Linda, whose spirit was present here. Somehow, this changed. IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1841 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 06, 2011 04:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by maira: This is the main reason why I'm considering leaving LL. I know it doesn't really matter, but I just wanted to put in my two cents.I came here a long time ago. I just kept on reading and reading the forum, not posting, because I didn't know much back then and I was absorbing information. The people here were amazing! It was the best online community I have ever "met". And I loved... Linda, whose spirit was present here. Somehow, this changed.
I'm sorry! IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 396 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted June 06, 2011 04:22 PM
Also, Betty, don't bother You are a great person and you shouldn't take this to heart. I know it's easier said than done.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11017 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 06, 2011 04:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by maira: This is the main reason why I'm considering leaving LL. I know it doesn't really matter, but I just wanted to put in my two cents.I came here a long time ago. I just kept on reading and reading the forum, not posting, because I didn't know much back then and I was absorbing information. The people here were amazing! It was the best online community I have ever "met". And I loved... Linda, whose spirit was present here. Somehow, this changed.
Why would you leave if there was a problem between people that is now being addressed? There is no place on earth that does not have issues between people. Randall has made LL AS safe,warm and loving as a human community filled with flawed people can be. I really don't understand, Maira. Utopia will only come in Heaven I feel personally offended that you would insult LL in this way. I must say this even though I have fond feelings to you,personally as you know. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
rajji Moderator Posts: 784 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted June 07, 2011 02:35 AM
Road I too understand the reason behind your being rude.I too dont get to see many people who acknowledge what you said as the most profound thing(about abstinance)...You are on the right path.I know sometimes a few words can make our blood boil.Different kinds of people do co-exist dont they? Your views are much appreciated here. So please control yourself. When you know that you are on the right side..it dosent matter what others say...Let them have their say..just ignore them...and pursue your hearts desire.Thats the best anybody can do.When you sense that an argument is about to ensue just keep away from answering or contact ami or other moderators if need arises.IP: Logged |
bethcarliseh Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Mar 2011
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posted June 07, 2011 03:17 AM
Is it possible that the normal relations person cannot handle us yet we have no artistic outlet for the masses. Leaves a hole.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1037 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 07, 2011 03:34 AM
quote: Your views are much appreciated here.
I likewise appreciate Road's perspective on things, whether I agree with it or not, and I often find his astrological insights interesting. I would actually love it if Road managed to get his points across without insulting others. That way I could focus on his points, rather than the surrounding aggression. I do not appreciate his accusations, his insults and his instigating behaviour. This is really not acceptable on this website. Raji - If you do think this is acceptable behaviour - Why is it that you do not engage in it yourself? I have never seen you insult other knowflakes, So you must be aware that this goes against the rules of this site, not to mention common decency.
quote: .it dosent matter what others say...Let them have their say..just ignore them
I am not entirely sure that either you or Road understood what I was saying in the first place, in the initial thread. I am actually not even sure that you have read the thread, judging by your reply.
quote: I too understand the reason behind your being rude.I too dont get to see many people who acknowledge what you said as the most profound thing(about abstinance
So you are basically saying that you understand the reason behind Road's rudeness... Then you are saying that the *reason* is that his words regarding abstinence are spiritual and profound - and that anyone who has any other opinion deserves such rudeness. Is that correct? Or am I misinterpreting? Since this is a public forum, people with different viewpoints need to co-exist, and there is no good reason to justify rudeness, taken to this extent. ---
Regarding abstinence (since you brought it up) - I think the choice to abstain from sex can be a step on a person's way to spiritual awakening (if this is the point they are at and if this is something they feel they need to do). However I also believe sex itself can be a step on the same pathway (ironically! or not...) And further - and most importantly - I believe, all the choices we make are right for us as long as we make those choices for healthy reasons. For instance - fear - is not a healthy reason to make a choice. I am not saying this to imply anything. I am genuinely pointing it out - because in my honest opinion - the feeling of *fear* is the biggest driver of *seriously BAD choices - out there. quote: Different kinds of people do co-exist dont they?
Yes. They do. This is exactly why his rudeness was unnecessary and nasty. IP: Logged |
Yrone Knowflake Posts: 310 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted June 07, 2011 03:47 AM
Rudeness and Abstinence ... I sense a pattern, the plot thickens ...IP: Logged |
rajji Moderator Posts: 784 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted June 07, 2011 03:48 AM
Well You got me right Betty...I do respect his feelings about abstinance(it definately takes a lot of spiritual maturity to say that) but not about his being rude thats why the question of different people do coexist and. ...Yes im trying to convey the same to him of not being rude and also of being on the right path about his feelings. Betty I know it hurts to be attacked but I guess it was on the spur of the moment. You are indeed a strong person as afore mentioned. Peace and love.IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic Knowflake Posts: 368 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 07, 2011 07:01 AM
I have issues with the whole abstinence thing being regarded as spiritual. The denial of the flesh has it's roots in many religions ...Catholicism and Buddhism especially. To understand this you need to look at the reasons why "man" would deny the flesh and that usually comes down to a denial of mortality which is also strongly connected to those who engage in a "spiritual" path. I agree that it's important to respect and honour the body but this does not mean that we need to abstain from physical pleasure. It certainly doesn't mean someone is less "evolved" even if they do have issues in this department. IP: Logged |
bethcarliseh Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Mar 2011
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posted June 07, 2011 07:07 AM
Did someone say Absinthe!? mmmmmmIP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 396 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted June 07, 2011 08:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Why would you leave if there was a problem between people that is now being addressed? There is no place on earth that does not have issues between people. Randall has made LL AS safe,warm and loving as a human community filled with flawed people can be. I really don't understand, Maira. Utopia will only come in Heaven I feel personally offended that you would insult LL in this way. I must say this even though I have fond feelings to you,personally as you know.
Yes sweetie, I know it's not personal. It's hard to explain actually. If you read the archives, you'll see what I'm talking about - it's not the knowledge of the knowflakes that were here that I'm talking about (although there were many more professionals here back in the day, but that's irrelevant in this discussion), but about the human quality. I'm really not looking for Utopia, I just got insulted too a few months ago and since then I simply don't engage. But the bitterness persists, you know? quote: Originally posted by Yrone: Rudeness and Abstinence ... I sense a pattern, the plot thickens ...
Great reply I share dysfunctionalmystic's view about abstinence. It is only my personal truth. I think Osho explained it better - you can't give up on something until you really have it. That would be like a beggar on the street, who couldn't make any money and he claims that money don't bring happiness. He says that in order to really give up willingly on something, may it be ego, wealth, sex, one must acquire these things - for example, build a strong ego before letting it go. Osho is really controversial, saying things like the priests are in fact the biggest sinners, but I like how he thinks. Again, this is my personal truth. By no means am I implying it is an absolute one.
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