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Purrr
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posted September 10, 2011 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Purrr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanted to create a sacred, support place for those of us who struggle with the darkness and uphill battle that is mental illness. Everyone is welcome to share their experiences and reach out for advice.

Edit: Also, I chose Loony Hearts Club (It's a mix of the Lonely Hearts Club + Loony Bin) because it sounded cute. Hopefully no one is offended... if you are, try to have more sense of humor about these things... It's a part of the path to healing!

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Purrr
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posted September 10, 2011 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Purrr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Within the past two months of several doctors visits, I've finally been officially diagnosed with Bipolar II AND Borderline Personality Disorder. I had been struggling with depression my whole life (every woman in my mother's side of the family has depression or Bipolar I - I'm the only one with just Bipolar II), and it's been a rough journey to get to where I am now.

I was looking at my chart and it starts to make sense.

For those of you not familiar with BPD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder

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A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image and affects, as well as marked impulsivity, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5
2. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
3. Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
4. Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5
5. Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats or self-injuring behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars (excoriation) or picking at oneself.
6. Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
7. Chronic feelings of emptiness
8. Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms


For those of you not familiar with Bipolar II: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_II_disorder

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A. A distinct period of abnormally and persistently elevated, expansive, or irritable mood and abnormally and persistently increased activity or energy, lasting at least 4 consecutive days and present most of the day, nearly every day (or any duration if hospitalization is necessary).
B. During the period of mood disturbance and increased energy and activity, three (or more) of the following symptoms have persisted (four if the mood is only irritable), represent a noticeable change from usual behavior, and have been present to a significant degree:
1. inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
2. decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep)
3. more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking
4. flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing
5. distractibility (i.e., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli), as reported or observed
6. increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation
7. excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments)
8. The episode is associated with an unequivocal change in functioning that is uncharacteristic of the person when not symptomatic.
9. The disturbance in mood and the change in functioning are observable by others.
10. The episode is not severe enough to cause marked impairment in social or occupational functioning, or to necessitate hospitalization, and there are no psychotic features.
11. The episode is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication, or other treatment). Note: A full hypomanic episode emerging during antidepressant treatment (medication, ECT etc) and persisting beyond the physiological effect of that treatment is sufficient evidence for a hypomanic episode diagnosis. However, caution is indicated so that one or two symptoms (particularly increased irritability, edginess or agitation following antidepressant use) are not taken as sufficient for diagnosis of a hypomanic episode.

If you look at my chart, it makes a lot of sense.

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Purrr
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posted September 10, 2011 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Purrr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way I describe having Bipolar II and BPD is that it's like ocean waves. There's high tide and low tide (hypomania and depression in Bipolar II, respectively) and the waves and changes in current in between those two (BPD). Sometimes the waves are calm and relaxed, while other times they become wild and abrasive. Swimmers beware!

I associate Bipolar II with my Libra Moon in the 1st House. Bipolar II affects me on a chemical level - it's more about the chemical balances in my brain. I'm always trying to achieve a balance and harmony between depression and mania - to keep my emotions in check and not fall off the deep end - on either ends! Also, my Libra Moon is in the 29th degree and only aspected by a sextile to Sag Saturn conj Uranus in the 3rd. Often I feel that my concentration is affected by this lack of balance. I frequently have panic attacks (I can't process too much) while I'm depressed and I make too many poor, abrupt decisions when I'm hypomanic. For this illness, I do take mood stabilizers and anti-depressants.

I associate BPD with my Cancer Sun in the 9th house - the ever-changing waves. BPD affects how I handle my surroundings and process stimuli. When I'm hurt or scared, I do act childish in the way that I feel and speak like I was when I was a little girl (right before my mother started to abuse me), and I reach out to my father for security. Like the waves in a busy bay, my moods are effected by my surroundings. Push me one way, and I react back. I'm also very impulsive when I have the energy to do whatever I want to do. I'm frequently and desperately always trying to fill this void of emptiness and boredom with something SECURE and SAFE only to fail... because the most secure and SAFE things are never black or white...

As a combination of my Sun and Moon, I've managed to keep my moodiness to myself in my little shell, but I do think outwardly in a very black and white manner with people. It's the only way I can handle the process of interpersonal communication and relationship building. You're either on my team or not. You either love me completely or not. You either say YES or NO. There is no MAYBE in my book. Some people like this, others are put off. More often than not, people are more demonized in my book than put on a pedestal, but I will admit that it's always one or the other. Never in between. I'm quick to size people up; Next in line please! I'm very extreme. One day I'll hate you for being mean to me, the other day you'll be back to my best friend if you're very nice to me - again the latter doesn't happen too often.


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mochai
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posted September 10, 2011 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to get into this and derail the thread, but bipolar is kundalini as is schizophrenia.

This focuses more on psychotic expressions (when you go into an acute healing crisis.. like in a shamanic initiation or something) but I'm throwing it up here. http://www.youtube.com/user/bipolarorwakingup#p/u/3/v1Cwpx8inKY Also look into works with schizophrenia like John Weir Perry's Diabasis or Soteria.

I personally think the psychologists are crazy and tend to do a lot of harm. You'd think, their idol Jung went through a schizophrenia type psychosis (info released with his The Red Book) and they're still parading around anti-psychotics as the first countermeasure without looking at it holistically. If you look into the book The Natural Medicine Guide to Bipolar, there was a severely bipolar youth who went to Africa, went through a shamanic initiation, and came back fine and went to Harvard. The bipolarorwakingup guy has also cured people in their first psychosis, and it's been done many times with schizophrenia albeit it takes longer. Get enough stress.. and you get kundalini and depending upon your energy blockages, psychosis. Bipolar increasing 1000% in the last 20 years or whatever have you.. weird stuff.

A number of my soulmates have bipolar or bipolar II. I have had severe depression, and have been through a shamanic iniation type event, but that just makes me think the rest of the world is mentally ill..

They diagnosed you with BPD.. really? They diagnose 90% of the people that come through with that. A lot of bipolar symptoms account for that. Half of the time I think they just don't care and if you're emotional they stick you with that. Along with the dehumanizing of the patient they think they're healing, I don't know what grade cannabis they're smoking before work.. Really..

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Randall
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posted September 10, 2011 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving this to the right Forum.

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I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order, as they should be.

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sand
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posted September 10, 2011 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Purrr:
Also, I chose Loony Hearts Club (It's a mix of the Lonely Hearts Club + Loony Bin) because it sounded cute.

haha dat does sound cute!

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LEXX
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posted September 10, 2011 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Good topic.
I personally feel most in the mental health field are delusional and mess up their patients too often.
Case and point:
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I was diagnosed delusional by a psychiatrist because I answered yes to believing in UFOs on the psych test and said I saw a UFO...
as did the Sheriff and a reporter for the newspaper.(which I could prove!)...
I questioned him about his crucifix and asked if he believed in angels.
He stood there and insisted angels were real (yet he had never seen any)
and the Christian bible is the word of God and I needed to believe in it to be cured of my delusions.

For more see this thread please: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/000987.html

More on what are considered mental illnesses but I personally feel they are not that but linked to past lives' recall and empathic abilities for some such as myself. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000412.html

And here for more somewhat related topics: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/207133-11.html

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Purrr
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posted September 10, 2011 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Purrr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would just like to testify that my psychologist when I was 17 saved my life - the same woman who has diagnosed me with BPD - and I've known her for 10 years now. I'm 23 btw. I've been taking Celexa since I was 17. Some people are different than others and I hope you guys can understand that. I'm tired of people judging me because they believe that no one needs medication - just to pray or to meditate. An alcoholic cannot heal himself and rise to a higher spiritual life if he does not address his worldly issues ie his physical addictions. I do not believe in angels or prayers or miracles. They do not solve which you do not address yourself. That's just how I think.

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I was diagnosed delusional by a psychiatrist because I answered yes to believing in UFOs on the psych test and said I saw a UFO...
as did the Sheriff and a reporter for the newspaper.(which I could prove!)...
I questioned him about his crucifix and asked if he believed in angels.
He stood there and insisted angels were real (yet he had never seen any)
and the Christian bible is the word of God and I needed to believe in it to be cured of my delusions.

Sounds more like a closed-minded religious person who unfortunately is a psychiatrist.

Also, my father is a psychiatrist and has been treating his patients for 30 years now. He's the kindest man I've ever met and he really cares about his patients. One of his patients he's been seeing for 15 years now... He's schizophrenic and a danger to himself, his wife, and his children. Regardless, my father treats him just like everyone else and really talks to him. I know this because I was his secretary one summer and always listened in on his sessions, lol.

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posted September 10, 2011 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Purrr
Your father sounds wonderful!
Also I am glad you have such a positive accepting outlook for yourself!

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posted September 12, 2011 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my cousin has bi-polar, she had a rough couple of years (from age 17 to 20) but now (24) she's much better.. she's on meds but as long as she's doing well then nothing matters! she's so kind and breathtakingly beautiful it breaks my heart to remember what she went through..

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