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NativelyJoan
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From: Boston, MA
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posted November 03, 2011 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a personal experience recently that I've decided to share because it's been troublesome for me. I'm a Libra and I don't like crudeness, vulgarity and any form of inappropriateness. I take my privacy very seriously especially when it comes to my health. I lean more towards herbal and natural treatments, alternative medicine then conventional. However I do have a Primary Care Physician. And a GYNO who is a family friend and whom I feel comfortable with and have known for years.

Not too long ago I had to make an appointment with my Physician over a health scare. I've been adamant to him about not having him (he's male) perform any procedures related to my womanly parts because I have a GYNO who I feel very comfortable with. In general I am highly critical of conventional medicine and think many procedures that men and women face are highly invasive and psychologically damaging. Well I've had my primary doctor for under a year, I just switched because my last doctor was very inappropriate. I have issues with abuse of power and now I'm starting to see those traits in my new doctor. During my appointment he pressured me into having procedures that I'd rather have my GYNO perform. On a side note I can tell he thinks I lie about my issues with my health, it's weird. For example I had a feeling over the summer that I was carrying a stomach bug and he didn't believe me then I suggested my blood be tested and surprise surprise I was positive for the stomach bug. (What a jerk)

Anyways back to the original story, I'm a peace loving Libra and didn't want to endure conflict so I kept my mouth shut about telling him I would rather have my GYNO perform those procedures. I didn't even get time to say no before he ordered me to get undressed and throw on a sheet. I was horrified and felt exploited. After the procedures he began making jokes and smiling at me which I found odd because I'm not friendly with him ever, I like to keep everything professional. He was acting very inappropriately. I was so traumatized I asked to just leave, and he said fine. And that was it. I've since made an appointment with my GYNO and I've decided I won't continue to with my current physician.

I know their human but they're in a field that puts them in direct interaction with the public, how can patients trust their physicians when they feel like they're being exploited. I've gotten intense vibes that he might be interested in me, which is highly disturbing and It really bothers me that he seemed pleased after he saw me without clothes even though it was for the procedure.

What do women or men out there think about inappropriate behavior from their doctors? Has anyone experienced this or switched physicians as a result of this.

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NickiG
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From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
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posted November 03, 2011 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i once had a family doctor like that....i was never seen by him but i did tend to my sister...after telling my sister she had cyst on her ovaries and that she could never have kids he gave her pills and didnt tell her they were to help fertilization....next thing we know she had 2 kids...but because i was never seen by him i cant talk about the inappropriateness but according to my mom and sister he was a creep

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amelia28
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posted November 04, 2011 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you attract people that abuse power bc part of why you are here is to bring these things to light and push for your justice! tough calling but beautiful.

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Lonake
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posted November 04, 2011 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the reason I refuse to have a male doctor. Creepy.

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PixieJane
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posted November 04, 2011 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only use female doctors (though I'd be willing to be referred to a male specialist, though this has yet to happen). However, I've been seen naked (or close enough) by male nurses and haven't been bothered by it, but they were professional about it. I like to think most of them wouldn't even be tempted to be inappropriate as they'd seen enough naked bodies for it to be not a big thing to them.

I like to think your doctor sensed your nervousness and was trying to lighten the mood with some jokes.

However he may have been turned on as studies show that women who try to hide themselves even when they're just trying not to show too much leg will actually inspire more lust in men than strippers who brazenly bare all. It makes sense to me as look how easy going nudist beaches & resorts are in contrast to the intense sexuality of repressive Bible Belts and Islamic states. So your feeling vulnerable and exposed may have aroused him because you were perceived as forbidden fruit made available and/or the sense of power he got out of it.

What I dislike about it is that you already made it clear that you have a gyno you prefer for that so he should've respected your boundaries. It's possible he simply forgot, but maybe not.

I'm a Libra, too, but while I try for a peaceful coexistence with others I have firm boundaries, and when I see a doctor I see someone who is providing a service making me a CLIENT, not a "patient." They're the expert of course but I realize the many imperfections of medicine and I ultimately decide what I'm willing to do and not do. I suppose in your case I would've said (as sweetly as possible, but not meekly), "No thanks, I'll see my gyno about that." But that may be my Leo ascendant and/or Sag moon & Mars speaking.

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LEXX
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posted November 04, 2011 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I get a mammography,
too often techs are rude with me.
Why on earth do they let a flat chested uber skinny female person
do such tests on women with D to K size breasts?
I feel like a monster as it is and their making fun of my breasts is so disgustingly embarrassing..... so yeah, have avoided the yearly things for like 6 years.And yeah, when I was fit and trim, doctors would hit on me and women (Lesbian?) ones too.
It is not a happy situation.....I did not return to any of them.
"shudder"

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NativelyJoan
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posted November 04, 2011 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the insights, I really appreciate it.

PixieJane, I'm actually very similar to you and have Moon and Mars in fire but mine are in opposition to my Sun and Moon which just adds more Libra balancing energy. I even have Mars Rising, but I don't like conflict, and if I have to deal with it I consider the ramifications and either bolt or challenge the situation. Which I usually have to mentally and emotionally prepare for in advance. I wanted to challenge the situation but if I don't stay composed I can get pretty aggressive (Mars in Aries in the 1st) and I've scared the living daylights out of people which makes me seem like a threat and the solution goes right out the window. But having decided I'm switching physicians seems like a good choice for me, I don't trust conventional medicine and like you I'm highly critical of the practice in general. I prefer alternative medicine. Lightening the mood before the procedure is one thing but after it is just weird. I don't know I think during and after the procedure its of the utmost importance to stay professional because of how invasive some of these procedures are, it's out of respect to those involved. Again thank you for your input, and I agree with your perspective on repression and sexuality.

Amelia28, I really enjoy your interpretations and I think I agree with you. I'm always put into situations like this, I sense the abuse of power and then it turns into a power struggle if I challenge the situation instead of walk away. I have experienced this with coworkers, past teachers, doctors, family members. I'm constantly fighting the fight for justice, that's very true. It's hard because I'm constantly feeling exploited even though the end result usually brings change that results in justice. It's very tough.

Lexx, that sounds horrible. I'm glad you followed your instincts and walked away from those physicians. Unfortunately those experiences stay with you but in time we heal which I'm sure you and I are both learning how to do exactly that.

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hippichick
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posted November 04, 2011 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well my side is from two standpoints.

One, I am in the medical field and the first impression I got from your story is the allmighty dollar. Physicians dont make squat from insurance companies these days, and even less from medicare and medicaid. Lots of primary physicians try to do things on their own so they can bill for it. I even see in the hospital as well as family practice outside of the hospital.

Many phsycians order studies that are totally unecessary just to bill for it. Having that dilemma now with a study my daughters cardilolgist wants to do, that will cost me $500 out of pocket, and the more cardiologist I talk to at work, beg to differ with his decision.

Two, I am a sympathetic Pisces woman and if something makes you feel uncomfortable, I trust it is not your imagination and you feel uncomfortable for some reason.

Not quite the same, but my new boss was walking down the hall the otherday, I was walking with a male co-worker, and my boss had just greated us in another hallway. But as he approached us, he was on his cell phone and looked directly at my boobs the whole time till we passed and did not make eye contact with my co-worker nor myself. Now my boss is 4feet tall, if that, stands about at my boob level, and I will give him the benefit of a doubt this time, but not again. My male co-worker almost had to de-esclate me in the hallway as I was SOOOOO ****** ! My boyfriend was unsympathetic and my female friends were very supportive...improfessional and just not right.

IF something makes you uncomfortable listen to your intuition.

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