posted November 27, 2011 12:41 AM            

On my block there are a bunch of kids, and what they do all day after school is sit on MY STEPS. Normally I wouldn't have a problem with random people sitting on my steps, I actually don't give a damn. BUT the problem is, these kids, they are constantly leaving their trash on my steps. I've asked them nicely SEVERAL times to please stop. To be ***** , they left MORE trash. Not only that, they BROKE my railing once already from swinging on it, some of them sit out there and smoke pot, they chalk up my STEPS & sidewalk with random unreadable bulls.h.i.t. graffiti. They've said racist things to members of my family. They even threw a GLASS BOTTLE into my backyard at my DOG. That's crossing the fu.cking line! Asking them nicely didn't work. Yelling at them didn't work. Talking to some of their parents didn't work. Seriously, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I filed a complaint against them today, but I'm sure the cops won't do anything, they rarely do. This is not sometimes, this is almost DAILY . Rain or shine, night or day these motherfu.ckers are always outside. I'm really about to snap, and I know strangling kids is frowned upon, plus it's not going to solve anything, so I need some advice. Anyone know if there is anything else I can do? Moving isn't an option for me. *sigh*

posted November 27, 2011 02:50 AM            

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They even threw a GLASS BOTTLE into my backyard at my DOG. That's crossing the fu.cking line!

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posted November 27, 2011 05:05 AM            

You need figure out who seems to be leading there group, because there is definitely a dominant player amongst them, and confronting said person could be enough.

Find out as much about the alpha/leader person as possible, check to see if they are linked to bigger more dangerous gangs or petty to mid level criminals. (even just following them via facebook could help with this)

(If the guy/girl is not in with gangs/criminals. Then your dealing with just a random a$$hole)

Ask some of your other neighbors or people in the local community if they have been bothered by these kids either, because a group of adults confronting them is going to be more effective.

You said they may be smoking pot or whatever, basically doing illegal **** on your porch, so you need to document this, film them with your video camera / camera phone, whatever you got.

Build a case against them so to speak and present such to both their parents and the cops.

The main problem is the legalities of the situation, the fact is the quickest way to deal with this is an ass beating

Ive seen all this before in really rough estates where I had the pleasure of living -rolls eyes-, Scum like this will only be stopped with violence.

It sucks, but they are asking for it

posted November 27, 2011 09:00 AM            

To my kid's friends, (my daughters are now 19 and 23) I have alwaays been the "coolest" mom. But as a single mom, I dont take **** .

I think if you get the law involved, they may retaliate. I think it best to handle yourself and they will respect you more.

Be a hardass, be cool about it, but let them know you wont take **** ...cuss, put your self on their level emotionally and scare the hell out of them..gain their respect.

One New Years eve, my youngest thought she was going to bring an entire clan of drunk teenagers to sleep in her room. Most of these kids knew me and thought I was that "cool mom" and normally I would rather have them crash than drive drunk. But this time they pushed it...I had to work the next day so I got up in my jammies and told them, all of them, including my drunk kid to get the hell out of my house...and they did.

Another time, they were acting stupid outside, so, again, I in my jammies, read them the riot act and recited Texas gun laws.

And another time, my youngest knows she is not to have people in the house, but one day I was at work and I knew she and a couple of her friends were in the house partying...so mom leaves work (which is really hard for me to do as I am a nurse) appeared at honme unexpectedly, went to my room, quietly got both of my guns, walked through the house with them, put them in my truck and then told them to get the hell out!

Just a few examples, and my kids friends (the eldest being out of the house for a few years now) still think I am the cat's meow, however they respect me and and dont mess with me or my house..

Good luck,

The main thing to remember is put yourself on their level emotionally, they you will have them...think like them....

posted November 27, 2011 11:11 AM            

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read them the riot act and recited Texas gun laws.

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posted November 27, 2011 01:07 PM            

Yeah teasel, I going to start taking pics of the mess they leave behind. Wish I did that sooner, especially when they broke my railing! Talking to the other neighbors is a good idea too, I'm hoping they'll also want to do something about it.

LOL Mblake, lemme borrow that!

Oh I really want to, but that's the thing Lei_Kuei, I can't use violence against them unless I wanna go to jail. They're a BUNCH of minors ranging from ages 8-15. It's so frustrating as well because their parents just don't give a crap. I'll have to start documenting what they do and show it to the cops.

They've already made this a habit, anongrl. I been too lenient and let it go on way too long. I've had enough now! Thanks for your advice.

hippichick can you come over and scare these brats away? Hah you Mrs. are pure badassery.

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Be a hardass, be cool about it, but let them know you wont take **** ...cuss, put your self on their level emotionally and scare the hell out of them..gain their respect.

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I've done that.. kind of. But when I was confronting them I was so mad I couldn't keep cool!

posted November 27, 2011 02:37 PM            

For the last time tried talking to their parents today. It's like talking to a fu.cking brick wall. So fu.cking ignorant.

posted November 27, 2011 03:18 PM            

Girls are WORST than the boys. I talked to the boys before and they backed off. But these girls, it's like words don't penetrate their brains. I know they're young. But I was young once too and I was NEVER this disrespectful.

I snapped like a crazy ole' witch earlier. And I'm still pi.ssed!! This anger is so toxic. I haven't been this mad since my childhood.

posted November 27, 2011 03:21 PM            

And if they did they wouldn't let their kids out all day till 11pm, sometimes even later than that.

This is what happens when you have parents that are crack addicts.

What a shame, years ago this use to be a really nice neighborhood.

posted November 27, 2011 03:37 PM            

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P.i.s.s.ed off

For the last time tried talking to their parents today. It's like talking to a fu.cking brick wall. So fu.cking ignorant.

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LOL Mblake, lemme borrow that!

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Here, you can use my saiga 12, should make em pee their pants if they are smart. Racking the slide is intimidating to say the least.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12

The Saiga-12 is a Kalashnikov-pattern 12 gauge combat shotgun available in a wide range of configurations. Like the Kalashnikov rifle variants, it is a rotating bolt, gas-operated gun that feeds from a box magazine.

posted November 27, 2011 07:57 PM            

Saiga 12 Shotgun.

Not much would withstand the barrage of twenty 12 gauge buckshot/slug rounds in a row.

I never bought a drum, I have the five round mags. I got the shotgun for going on nature walks and home defense.

I dislike the idea of being bear/mountain lion food(or being subject to some piece of crap person who decides it a good idea to break into my home). If one of those happen to come at you, small caliber pistols are no hope. You need something with knockdown power in a semi auto form. IMHO.

Human bodies are incredibly weak in the wild, we have no defense except our brains. Brains alone do not fight off large hungry animals.

Human bodies are made of meat. Red, blood filled, life sustaining meat to a predatory animal. I love nature, I fear nature.

posted November 28, 2011 01:21 AM            

Deterrent is going to be your new best friend then. You need to make it really unpleasant for them to be there.

However its also going to catch you in the crossfire temporally -nods-.

You need to start doing things like piling up your dogs excrement as close to the "Loitering Area" as possible, human fecal matter is probably more effective! The smellier the better!

Pile the most disgusting trash you can near there hang on out zone, but inside your garden to avoid hassle from people complaining on rancid trash on the sidewalk.

Think about smearing sh!t & axle grease on your wall and on the steps!

It doesnt matter how nice there new hang out zone is. If it smells like rancid sh!t and p!ss, and gets their nice shiny tracksuits covered in axle grease they wont stay for long! Especially if there are girls in there group -nods-

Be inventive! Be smelly & disgusting! Lol...

Yes, its going to suck for you too, but least the group may evaporate and hopefully for good

posted November 28, 2011 02:22 AM            

But I am right about the shotty being an intimidation tool for sure. Always has been.

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-Police
-A fence
-Adult Intimidation (Mean Face)
-Find some practical way to scare them from coming back that does not hurt them.

Probably the only options now since you have talked the parents and that was a no go.

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You need to start doing things like piling up your dogs excrement as close to the "Loitering Area" as possible, human fecal matter is probably more effective! The smellier the better!

Pile the most disgusting trash you can near there hang on out zone, but inside your garden to avoid hassle from people complaining on rancid trash on the sidewalk.

Think about smearing sh!t & axle grease on your wall and on the steps!

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Yeah, let you neighbors know what is going on so you wont have problems when you do this.

Make your area a very unpopular place for the kids to hang.

posted November 28, 2011 07:14 AM            

Mblake, that looks really nice. How's the recoil? It'd probably make me fly away. Bam-ba-Lam

Hey Lei_Kuei, I AM in the crossfire currently. :/ Especially after yelling at the kids yesterday. A lot of the neighbors came out to see what was going on. Hahah I didn't go the doo-doo butter route , but I did ask my brothers if they could spit on the steps to keep them from sitting. But these kids are relentless. Instead, they sit on my neighbor's steps (an elderly old women) and spit their sunflower seeds & throw their trash our way. They've even walked over to chalked my steps with graffiti. They have proven time and again they don't need to sit on my steps to harass us. So yesterday, that's where my screaming at them came in. I'm just so tired and sick of their bulls.h.i.t. Even though they were stunned silent when I yelled at them, I'm sure something is brewing.

posted November 28, 2011 08:03 AM            

Should you decide that yes, you ARE going to use a shotgun, think of using rock salt (instructions and caveat at link). That used to be the traditional way to deal with pests who don't actually deserve lethal violence but don't seem inclined to listen to anything less.

I used to have a blasian roomie who could be quite intimidating as she was a body building weightlifter, 5'10" (1.524 m), catlike grace from years of martial arts training, tribal tats, and a very competitive personality. She was what I called an "Aries deluxe" in that she had an Aries sun, moon, Mars, Venus, and ascendant. That's why I overlooked her outbursts.

Anyway there was a neighborhood boy (13, IIRC) who had a crush on me & caused problems until one day I was trying to get rid of him without hurting his feelings when my roomie drove up. I don't know what was so scary about her but he took off running and never bothered me again. : She asked me what his problem was and I shrugged it off laughing (I teased her about it but forget exactly what I said). Too bad I'm not still on good terms with her or I'd offer to loan her out to you.

Then I saw some girls out a window standing in front of my driveway and watched them until one--obviously not part of the crowd--walk up to my garage door where I couldn't see. I ran out the door(the girls taking off) to find the girl had marked "Heya Chinky Niggar" (sic). I took off running after them and easily caught the overweight girl in the park and lectured her about her friends leaving her, how they were likely manipulating her for their own amusement, and that my roomie (for whom it was obviously intended) did not have a sense of humor about these things & didn't want to get her mad. I also castigated her on her atrocious spelling and lack of creativity (I suppose my Libra sun & Venus having their say after my Leo ascendant and Sag moon & Mars had me run her down in the first place) before I let her go and told her not to let me catch her by my house again.

As it was the house badly needed repainting anyway so I started it up that day with the garage door & my roomie never found out about it. (My Libra Venus in the 3rd house prefers as little home conflict as possible and she was bad enough WITHOUT a reason to be mad. And racism was a sore spot with her, especially from whites, Asian Americans, and blacks, all of whom--some relatives--had given her a hard time and even physical abuse over it back when she was growing up...part of why she got into sports as it was the only place she was accepted as a child and helped toughen her up against a hostile world that often didn't welcome blasians.)

It turned out well, IMO, but I recall being worried (and getting angry) over the thought that one of those kids might mess up my freshly painted garage door all over again, but they did not. They may not like blasians, but they respected the muscles, ominous appearance, catlike grace, and Aries temper. If they cannot love or respect, then let them know fear.

posted November 28, 2011 02:56 PM            

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Mblake, that looks really nice. How's the recoil? It'd probably make me fly away. Bam-ba-Lam

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Depends on the ammo. Birdshot doesn't kick hard, slugs will let you know you are shooting something strong.

The gun itself recoils like most shotguns, except you are semi auto. Make sure to have a good, rooted stance.

*By the way, I am not in favor of shooting anyone, especially kids. Any projectile, including rock salt can destroy a persons eyes.

posted November 29, 2011 11:17 PM            

Pixie, I have a Blasian niece, cutest kid ever.

Well that's a whole lotta Aries! Maybe her gaze was intense or something and he thought he would get beaten up for buggin' ya. You know what? I would let her live with me for free LOL. And it's really cool of you to stand up for her like that. ☺

Mblake, I don't know much about guns but I learned something new today.

And.. don't worry people, I'm not going to shoot anyone lol.

So glad for Sweet Peas forum. I wouldn't know where else to post this kinda stuff.

posted November 30, 2011 03:20 PM            

No need, Dee. So far screaming at them works. Not the normal yelling. Oh no.. psycho Venus in Scorp, nonstop cuss words yell. Threatening to take off their heads yell.

I know it's not productive to do that, but hey, if all else fails..

Getting that angry is exhausting though. I feel sleepy lol.