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Capriquarius
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posted December 05, 2011 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. What sign and degree is your Venus in and what are the aspects to it?

2. What sign and degree is your Mars in and what are the aspects to it?

3. Do you view love and sex as two different things and enjoy sex for its own sake, or can you only have sex with someone you're in love with? Feel free to elaborate (e.g. influence of your Sun sign, Moon sign..)

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I'll go first:

1. Venus in 24 degrees Scorpio Conjunct Uranus in 19 degrees Scorpio and Square Moon/Juno conjunction in 19 and 22 Aquarius respectively

2. Mars in 15 Capricorn Trine Saturn in 13 Virgo and Square Pluto in 19 Libra. Conjunct Sun in 10 Cap.

3. I can keep the two separate in my mind but all the Saturn/Capricorn dominance in my chart won't let me give that free rein.


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I'm asking this question because I'm close to two people who said they view love and sex as two different things, and they are both into casual sex. Their Venus and Mars are in "incompatible" signs (e.g. Aquarius and Pisces, Gemini and Taurus). And then there are folks with Venus-Mars trines (unaspected by other planets) who get the two things confused. They seem to be much more susceptible to falling in love through sex.

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Fondue Knight
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posted December 06, 2011 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Venus 17' Taurus. Square Jupiter (16' Aqua), Opposite Saturn (22' Scorpio), Trine Moon (8' Virgo), Sextile Mercury (20' Cancer), Quincunx Uranus (15' Sag)

2. Mars 9' Cancer. Conjunct Sun (2' Cancer), Opposite Neptune (2' Cap), Sextile Moon (8' Virgo), Trine Pluto (2' Scorpio)

3. I've never been in love. I'd might as well be a nun because I don't have a very active sex life. I can have casual sex, but it's rarely something that I seek out. I think I'd actually enjoy sex if it was with someone I was in love with. Interestingly, in the past when I've hooked up with dudes, I'd be willing to go further than just a bj, and they'd always say something like "No, I think we should wait." You know, because I'm the guy they wanna bring home to mom and raise gaybies with. Nothing will send me fleeing faster.

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downtomars
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posted December 06, 2011 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) Venus in 0 degrees Leo conjunct the DC at 1 degree Leo and Sun at 7 degrees Leo and Mercury at 8 degrees Leo and square Moon at 24 degrees Libra.

2) Mars in 24 degrees Gemini trine Moon at 24 degrees Libra and Pluto at 16 degrees Libra and opp Neptune at 17 degrees Sagittarius.

3) I can separate the two and I think this is because of the Mars in Gemini and the trines, so I really don't have the hang-ups. However, after the trials and errors of the early 20s (not lots of those believe me, I learn quickly), I realize that I prefer to be in a commitment before I get involved sexually. Not only because of the "oxytocin bonding", as well as my Moon-Pluto conjunction making me super-super picky about who I let in, but because I know that guys are more judgemental then they let on. They do have certain feelings about women who "give it up" too easily and seem like they don't take sex seriously, even if they are the type of guys who have different girls every weekend. That old double standard is in full effect and I have witnessed it and lived it. This is probably because some of the guys I have dated, and most of my male friends (who tell me everything), have some watery stuff going on so sex is about emotion connections to them, more than it is about actions/sensations (Venus in Leo) and the mind/feeding curiosity (Mars in Gemini)...

I have found that I have better sex if I am in love. Well, not just love, if I am infatuated, like if I have a huge crush on the guy I am dating. I have dated guys that I haven't had that crush-y feeling about so I notice a big difference.

Long story short: I can compartmentalize but I choose not to. As a woman looking for love I really can't.

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sand
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posted December 06, 2011 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus 6'21 taurus

"A beautiful cow is grazing in a park while a good-looking woman admires her face in a hand mirror."
Superficial, trusting, and carefree character. Good-looking features and sex appeal are the main assets which bring about happiness in love and a comfortable lifestyle, effortlessly. Should the natal chart concur, conceit, money, and lust for power prevail over moral concerns. In any case, there is a propensity for lechery. One must not overindulge in sensual pleasures because this degree indicates a danger of violent death or ruthlessness, whether one is the perpetrator or the victim.

mars 22'15 scorpio

"A man sows against the wind."
Hard-working but stubborn character totally lacking good practical sense. One has too much self-confidence and believes that one knows better than anyone else. Despite repeated failures, one keeps on making the same mistakes and waste a lot of energy and efforts. One must seek advice from wise and experienced people.

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3. Do you view love and sex as two different things and enjoy sex for its own sake, or can you only have sex with someone you're in love with? Feel free to elaborate (e.g. influence of your Sun sign, Moon sign..)

i cannot separate the 2. even if the arrangement is that i should. i think it's the water influence. i'm a water dominant.

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LEXX
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posted December 06, 2011 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in the Eleventh House

Venus was found in the eleventh house at the time of your birth. Your aspirations in life are very aesthetically oriented.

You strive for peace and harmony and if it were left up to you the whole world would be more humane, kind, and considerate. In your more personal relationships, Venus gives you the capability of obtaining substantial gain and assistance through your friends, who will desire to assist you with the best of intentions.

Venus Scorpio 28°26'54 in house 11 retrograde

Venus Trine Jupiter 1°12
Venus Trine Uranus 0°44
Venus Square Pluto 1°48
11th House Scorpio 20°08'03


Mars Aquarius 8°41'39 end of house 1 direct

Mars Square Saturn 3°13

2nd House Aquarius 9°41'39
Mars in the first house is dignified, giving the personality energy, assertiveness, courage, force, and passion. One is usually independent, outspoken, straightforward, dynamic, masculine, combative, audacious, and may be headstrong, impatient, reckless, and rash.

Mars in the second house is in detriment, putting energy into work, efforts to gain wealth or material possessions, and industriousness. Spending may be impulsive, and desires may be possessive. Voice is often masculine. One may be forceful about values, but is usually willing to work hard.
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In my wild youth,
desperately wanting to be loved,
and insecure because of being molested abused and raped,
I became aggressive and had to be in control.
I was overly promiscuous.

Now,
there must be love,
no longer do I desire sex for just sex sake....
well even in my youth it was not about the sex but wanting to be/feel loved.

Condition now?
SERIOUSLY JADED
DISILLUSIONED
Celibate and miserable.
The only sex I can trust is my solo self pleasuring.
Really.....
can MUTUAL love and sex coexist?

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Betty Boop
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posted December 06, 2011 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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1. What sign and degree is your Venus in and what are the aspects to it?

Taurus 00'01 (11th house)
-conjunct NN
- trine Mars/Neptune
- opposite Pluto

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2. What sign and degree is your Mars in and what are the aspects to it?

Capricorn - 02'36 (7th house)
- conjunct Neptune
- trine Venus
- sextile Pluto


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3. Do you view love and sex as two different things and enjoy sex for its own sake, or can you only have sex with someone you're in love with?

I only have a desire to have sex with someone when there is some kind of strong emotional connection between us, but it doesn't have to be romantic love. We have to have a history together though.
If I don't know them well - inside and out... I don't feel like having sex with them. I don't want them that physically close to me.
Morally speaking - I'm all for one night stands!
But they are not a sexual turn-on at all. I couldn't even kiss a stranger, let alone have sex with them.. and their appearance is irrelevant. There's just no intrigue.
What intrigues me most is seeing someone's sexuality once I know them *well* on other levels (specially if it is a taboo or secret situation (like when I was romantically involved with someone at work & no one else knew about us).. or when the person is someone who is generally 'hiding' their sexuality.. I like uncovering anything hidden.
So if I have a friend who seems scared of their sexuality and very "proper" - or too proper.... that would be the person I would be most likely to have sex with.

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Malena
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posted December 07, 2011 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I only have a desire to have sex with someone when there is some kind of strong emotional connection between us, but it doesn't have to be romantic love. We have to have a history together though.
If I don't know them well - inside and out... I don't feel like having sex with them. I don't want them that physically close to me.
Morally speaking - I'm all for one night stands!
But they are not a sexual turn-on at all. I couldn't even kiss a stranger, let alone have sex with them.. and their appearance is irrelevant. There's just no intrigue.

Wow! This is exactly me. Without something mentally or emotionally or psychologically going on, for me sex is just Insert Tab A into Slot B - boring. Like you, I don't have a moral issue with one-night stands (and I have had one when the chemistry with the guy was just that good), and it doesn't have to be a super romantic "love forever!!" connection. But as a rule, the idea of hooking up with strangers just leaves me cold.

I also have Mars in Capricorn (5th house though). My Venus is Scorpio, 3rd house.

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NativelyJoan
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posted December 07, 2011 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well...

Venus in Leo 21' (7th House)
Conjunct Juno and Descendant
Trine Moon, Uranus, Saturn
Sextile Mercury
Opposite Ascendant

Mars in Aries 5' degrees (1st House)
Sextile Jupiter
Opposite Sun
Square Neptune
Quintile Pluto

I can view them as two separate things. Love isn't sex and sex isn't love. I prefer to have both but in my view, love/romance and sex have nothing to do with each other.

It's hard for me to have one with out the other but I think each can be valued on their own. I think the Martian in me would rather just be impulsive and satisfy my physical urges however the Leo in me just doesn't support that. Venus is the ruler of my Sun in Libra and I can only be intimate with those I deeply love. My Venus in the 7th is in a house opposition to my Mars is in the 1st. So I guess I've found a balance between having the two planets for love and passion in their own houses.

Being promiscuous and allowing my Mars in Aries to do the walking is just not want I want to do. Even though a lot of times I really, REALLY want to listen to Mars. I see intimacy as a journey, not a pleasure therefore even though I see love and sex as two individual expressions, I need a balance of both in my relationships.

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