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Topic: How close is too close?
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1546 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 02:34 PM
Do any of you men here have a very close relationship with your mothers and can you explain why?My ex bf and his mom have an extremely creepy relationship. They are VERY close and I mean before he and I met they talked every single day on the phone and it suddenly stopped when I came into his life and I know she went crazy over this. Then she came all the way from chicago and MADE him leave me and I just don't understand how a 25 year old man can be this way with his mother. Can someone please tell me what is normal and what isn't for a young man and the relationship with his mother. It kills me that he lets her control his life and I think she is extremely jealous of what we share and that's why she wants us apart. She wants him to herself and i seriously am disturbed by this. I love him so much but I don't know why he is so dependent on her and she to him. I think she is sad that every man in her life has left her and now her last son is going to leave her for me and she will do everything in her power to make sure this doesn't happen. What makes things worse is that in their synastry they have tons of hard core romantic aspects. IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 2858 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2012 02:45 PM
Is he a Cancer?IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1546 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 02:47 PM
I am the Cancer.He is Sag Sun, Sag Mercury, Sag Uranus, and Sag Saturn in the 12th. His Moon, Mars, and Pluto are conjunct in Scorpio in the 10th. IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 2858 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2012 02:51 PM
SAG??? OMG, never heard this one before! I'm a Sag and I live 5000 miles away from my family. The distance works wonders! Is his mom a Cancer then? I'm sorry you went through this. Her actions were ridiculous and in no way the norm. Their attachment shouldn't prevent him from having a relationship. It's unhealthy and creepy. I relate to the bond Cancers and Saggies feel. I'm dating a Cancer myself. Can you talk to him? His head can't be that deep in his behind about this... He must be seeing how his mom is controlling him. He must know it's not natural. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 3775 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 02:58 PM
Don't mean to stereotype, but is he Caucasian/European?It isn't unusual in certain cultures for mothers to be involved in their sons' lives forever. I know somebody who "reports" everything to his mother even though he is over 50 years old and she is over 70 years old, and despite him being married. Even worse, I know a 45 year old who lives with his mother, along with his wife and two daughters, so that he can continue pleasing his mother primarily even though he has been married for a long time. I myself left home at 13 years old and cut the apron strings right then. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1546 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 03:04 PM
Yes his dad is white and his mom is half white half hispanic. I don't think it's bad to have a good relationship with your parents. But I am not this close to my parents and everytime we had a fight he would call her and act like a victim! Meanwhile I never call my parents and never ask them for money and she even paid his rent for a long time and he was never taking care of himself. I was the one with the good job making the good money. I was the one never making exscuses for myself and never giving up. He got fired from a job as a waiter and I was basically taking care of him. IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 2858 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2012 03:07 PM
Someone needs to teach a self-worth class on these boards. Why do decent women fall in love with men who don't deserve them? I'd totally sign up.athenegoddess, I have had this said to me a million times and I think it's finally sinking in. If a man wants to be with you, he would do the impossible. He would get a job, he would clean up his act, he would "break up" with his mother. It's a very, VERY hard pill to swallow but it's true. Don't despair. You have my utmost respect and admiration. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4179 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 12, 2012 03:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Yin: Someone needs to teach a self-worth class on these boards. Why do decent women fall in love with men who don't deserve them? I'd totally sign up.
I agree. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 3775 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 03:12 PM
I can't speak two sentences without getting into a fight with my parents, so it doesn;t apply to me.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36770 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 12, 2012 03:16 PM
Look at the asteroids with him and his mother, would be my idea. Look at the synastry. The charts answer all lol------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4179 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 12, 2012 03:28 PM
yea he is way over the top with his mom. but I never have understood why women have such a problem with men loving their moms in general, what's wrong with it? lol I love my momma and I am not ashamed to say so, hell she raised me, she's the number 1 woman in my life, it would take a very special woman to change that, but she will never replace my momma. any woman who has a problem with that isn't for me.IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 2858 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2012 03:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: yea he is way over the top with his mom. but I never have understood why women have such a problem with men loving their moms in general, what's wrong with it? lol I love my momma and I am not ashamed to say so, hell she raised me, she's the number 1 woman in my life, it would take a very special woman to change that, but she will never replace my momma. any woman who has a problem with that isn't for me.
I will never date a man who doesn't love his mom. I just don't want to be compared to her as if she can ever be what I can be for my man. She's the mom. I'm the gf. Those are two different things. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1546 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 03:38 PM
well i don't care if he loves her. thats fine. but they were ganging up on me and she was like protecting him when they were wrong in the first place. i was alone, by myself with nobody to protect me. i met her before and we got along really well. but it all changed when we started fighting because he can't keep a job. and even then, i was okay with taking care of him because i know he could have gotten a job if he wanted and really loved me. he is just really immature and before me he never had a serious girlfriend. i was his first real true love. i was his first real experience and i know i came into his life to teach him a thing or two. when she came to get him, i was asking him if i can stay in the apartment because i was paying the rent. and he simply refused to help me and this is where things got ugly. but in the end i was justified. but it was painful having him be so weak. i even called the cops and they told him he must let me stay in the apartment but his mother was trying to do everything in her power to ruin my life and make me homeless. but i am strong and i will recover from this. i am much stronger than him and this is what gives me courage. he might have had his mother to save him, but when that day comes when he doesn't have anyone to turn to, he will have to learn what it feels like. IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 2858 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2012 03:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: well i don't care if he loves her. thats fine. but they were ganging up on me and she was like protecting him when they were wrong in the first place. i was alone, by myself with nobody to protect me. but i am strong and i will recover from this. i am much stronger than him and this is what gives me courage. he might have had his mother to save him, but when that day comes when he doesn't have anyone to turn to, he will have to learn what it feels like.
Yes, you will recover and yes, he will figure it out someday. I wish I could give you a hug. I've been there. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1546 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 03:49 PM
Thank you Yin. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1546 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 03:54 PM
I know when Saturn Moves into Scorpio on His Moon/Mars/Pluto he will start to feel intense separation pains and guilt.IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 2858 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2012 03:57 PM
Saturn is on my Moon right now and lemme tell ya - it's REALLY painful.IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 3775 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 04:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: yea he is way over the top with his mom. but I never have understood why women have such a problem with men loving their moms in general, what's wrong with it? lol I love my momma and I am not ashamed to say so, hell she raised me, she's the number 1 woman in my life, it would take a very special woman to change that, but she will never replace my momma. any woman who has a problem with that isn't for me.
Seriously. I understand loving your mom, but you need to move on, dude. No one will replace your mom, but you've got to stop thinking of mom and the #1 woman in your life, or you won't get married.
When I married, I made it perfectly clear to everyone. I didn't chose my birth family. I chose my marriage family. Marriage is #1 and that is absolute and final. Everything else and everyone else can kiss our collective butts. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1546 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 04:05 PM
Ahhh.. I'm sorry. My most painful time was when Saturn was in Virgo squaring my Venus/Mercury t squaring Mars and Saturn/Uranus. My gosh. Pain like I never knew. But I had to experience it and I'm glad I did. I remember it got so bad.. and this was before my awakening. I was crying so hard in my room and then a man's voice spoke and was trying to tell me something. I didn't know what they were saying then but now I know they were trying to tell me to snap out of it and that my life has a greater purpose and I must not succumb to the temporary pain. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1546 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 04:08 PM
YTA, you're amazing. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 3775 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 04:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: YTA, you're amazing.
Thank you very much for your very kind compliment, and I will accept it, but I am not worthy of it. I'm not amazing. I just love my wife more than anything else in the world. Aquaguy isn't there yet. He will in due course when he finds the woman he loves. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4179 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 12, 2012 04:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: Seriously. I understand loving your mom, but you need to move on, dude. No one will replace your mom, but you've got to stop thinking of mom and the #1 woman in your life, or you won't get married.When I married, I made it perfectly clear to everyone. I didn't chose my birth family. I chose my marriage family. Marriage is #1 and that is absolute and final. Everything else and everyone else can kiss our collective butts.
lol I disagree. just because I love my mom doesn't mean I can't love my wife, kids,and friends, there's enough to go around.I'm simply saying if and when I get married I'm not going to forget my family and friends, that's what most people do when they get married and they end up miserable because of it.
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 3775 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 04:23 PM
Well, good for you, by all means. I didn't say to sour your relationship with your parents, did I?The difference here is my wife overrides and supercedes everything anyone else in the world says. If whoever says X and wife says Y, then Y it is. Period. That's my stance. And don't get me started with friends. The old saying goes: want a friend, get a dog. I think I trust my dog more than almost everyone else. And I have everything in the 11th House too. So what? Yours is obviously different, and that is cool with me. And I'm not "most people." IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1546 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 04:28 PM
Yes and I think a man should be that, a man. Not a mommas boy. Yeah maybe when he is young. But not when he is grown.IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 3775 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 04:31 PM
And being a good parent is knowing when it's time for a son to become a man and letting him go to find the love of his life. I'm doing that to my own teenager right now, encouraging him to find a virtuous young woman who has the potential to be his partner.IP: Logged |