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PhoenixFire
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posted October 23, 2012 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just witnessed a physical fight outside of my work building, over a love affair. A man accused another man who it appears was at work (had on his company's badge) of sleeping with his wife. The fight became ugly pretty quickly, and I'm glad it ended before either was seriously hurt.

The incident and some discussions with my closest girlfriend, brought me to think about why people cheat and the consequences of cheating. Also, what is the point is to fight over someone who has cheated on you?

Honestly, I could think of many reasons why cheating happens but am still shocked as to why anyone would physically fight over someone who has hurt them. I have never fought over a man and never will. The way I see it, if he was game to be "stolen" then his heart truly wasn't mine to begin with.

What do you all think? Would you forgive someone who cheated on you? Is there ever any situation in which cheating is forgiveable? Would you ever or have you ever fought over a man/woman?

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 23, 2012 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would eat his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

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doommlord
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posted October 23, 2012 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would never forgive if someone cheated on me....i would rip his dirty **** and beat him to death with it

Fidelity is very important to me and as i know i wouldnt cheat i expect the same treatment

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 23, 2012 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is why I did my due diligence and set ultra high standards to ensure the non-occurrence.

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PixieJane
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posted October 23, 2012 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgave cheating once only to have it happen again (ironically that partner was always suspecting me of infidelity), and that time I permanently cut my partner out of my life (I wasn't enraged, I was icy cold).

Unlike many people I also understand that the one my partner would be cheating with may not realize s/he's taken, and thus as much a victim as I am.

I can understand "extenuating circumstances" (such as show up in more than one TV show I've seen which are extremely unlikely yet plausible) but having never experienced them I don't know how I'd react to it. Of course understanding doesn't mean "free pass," let alone "automatic forgiveness."

And ever heard of "dyke drama"? While the term is used vaguely at times, it technically refers to the drama that inevitably happens among lesbians when one or both lesbians are close friends with so many exes.

Would I fight? Not likely, save with my partner whom I trusted if s/he strayed. The only way I'd likely lash out at the other person is if I trusted that person as well (like a close friend), or if s/he was so blatant about trying to seduce my SO as to be doing it right in front of me and knowing we were already a couple (as I'd see that as an insult and a challenge equivalent to the thrown glove). First time it was done right in front of me I'd expect my SO to send the would-be home wrecker packing with a refusal in no uncertain terms, but after that I'd step in myself. My strong Libra/air allows me a certain detachment and tendency to try to see things from another POV rather than my own but it's best not to stoke my Leo & Sag fire too much as even I have my limits.

Oh, and btw, fair warning for those who talk about destroying those who move in on their SO...more than once I've had women become hostile and even menacing toward me because she was so insecure as to assume I was after her man, or even just because her man was interested in me while knowing I didn't return the interest (once a group of older girls beat the crap out of me even though I shrieked at the the boyfriend of one of them to leave me alone and ran from him when he tried feeling me up), and I'm resolved that the next time it happens, I'm putting her in the hospital with broken bones, literally (interesting enough it hasn't happened since I made that resolution, so maybe I'm putting a vibe out warning them away). So be absolutely sure the other person both knows about the relationship AND is knowingly screwing you over with your partner, because the next paranoid, insecure woman to come after someone like me (I'm sure I'm not unique) is going to spend a few weeks in a cast (the itching must be terrible...), possibly losing her job in the process (since I work for myself I can weather jail a lot better than most others can recovery), when someone like me was never a threat to them in the first place until their paranoia made us into one.

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libraschoice77
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posted October 24, 2012 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am against it, and wouldn't fight over or forgive someone for it...

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 24, 2012 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll ensure the rapid demise of the errant parties.

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Aquacheeka
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posted October 24, 2012 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're talking about an instaneous reaction. Usually, cheating is the kind of thing that takes time to process. Your first instinct is to forgive and then you reclaim your dignity overtime.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 24, 2012 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes. My dignity is directly correlated to the pain enacted on the parties of ill judgment. My processing is instantaneous, as with the resulting action.

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PhoenixFire
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posted October 24, 2012 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure how Id react, as this hasn't ever happened (far as I know). I think I'd feel shocked/numb then very angry and betrayed/humiliated. My anger would mostly be towards him, as he is the one who vowed to be faithful, loving, and honest. I'd be very angry that he didn't break things off w me, before going there.

. I would be ****** if someone was directly trying to pick up my spouse, knowing he is married as that would be disrespecting me and our children. I'd put the person in their place, and probably toss him out the window if he encouraged it. I'd be ****** at the third person but not as much, as that person didn't make a promise to me and could care less what happens to our family, but my husband should care.

I think that aside from affairs of boredom/sex, emotionally based flings usually arise because something is crucially haywire in the primary relationship. Versus a one night sex adventure (which is still awful), emotionally connections arise and grow w time and if the issue isn't addressed, it will probably keep happening.

For that reason also, Id be angrier at my spouse.. If it wouldn't of happened w this third person then it would happen w someone else. I'd still be angry at the mistress, but would probably see it like she just took advantage of a bad situation.

I don't know if I'd verbally confront her, as that is just beneath me... I'd feel stupid fighting over a man who obviously didn't cherish me, and wouldn't want to give him the satisfaction of watching me make an idiot of myself in public. Id probably blow out his car, clean out the savings, ensure he doesnt a penny more than half our assets/property in dovorce, destroy his pictures and kick him out never to return.

Best revenge would be to move on without looking back. That's how Venus in Scorpio rolls... We love hard and its harder to forget, but once you are out of the circle of trust... You are out. A one direction road to indifference

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aquaguy91
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posted October 25, 2012 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would simply tell them to hit the road, no emotional scenes or forgiveness.

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cathy
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posted October 25, 2012 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I would'nt forgive a cheater. No, I'd never fight over anyone. I've noticed that cheaters are suspicious of their mates, I guess that makes sense.

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Curious Bull
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posted October 25, 2012 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel the same.

quote:
Originally posted by doommlord:
I would never forgive if someone cheated on me....i would rip his dirty **** and beat him to death with it

Fidelity is very important to me and as i know i wouldnt cheat i expect the same treatment


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Curious Bull
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posted October 25, 2012 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not the first part, actually, just the second. Once trust gets broken it's hard to restore...

quote:
Originally posted by doommlord:
I would never forgive if someone cheated on me....i would rip his dirty **** and beat him to death with it

Fidelity is very important to me and as i know i wouldnt cheat i expect the same treatment


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Curious Bull
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posted October 25, 2012 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it does make sense.

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Originally posted by cathy:
No, I would'nt forgive a cheater. No, I'd never fight over anyone. I've noticed that cheaters are suspicious of their mates, I guess that makes sense.

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DunorDius
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posted October 26, 2012 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DunorDius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
I just witnessed a physical fight outside of my work building, over a love affair. A man a

What do you all think? Would you forgive someone who cheated on you? Is there ever any situation in which cheating is forgiveable? Would you ever or have you ever fought over a man/woman?


depends on the relationship. You don't really own another person ever, so it is almost impossible to "cheat". If you decide that you want to form a relationship and depend on other people then you are naturally going to be upset when they want to break free, even if for a while. Oh and fighting over a man or woman is childish. It is what little kids do. Fight over toys. Some immature girls like that but they are kids themselves. The guy is fighting over the girl because he sees her as property or a possession. So, NO, fighting is never good, it shows a weakness or instability somewhere in the relationship. If a person gets cheated on, instead of reacting like an idiot and causing more negativity and violence, they should just be enlightened and see and say, "whoa, they want to be with sonmeone else, that is cool"......then you have two options. You either stay with them and YOU get to do stuff with other women, you can be a door mat and just accept cheating or you can say, nah, if I can't have you, then you just deal with what you traded me for. Deuces.

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libraschoice77
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posted October 26, 2012 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the main issue is trust, if you cant trust someone how can you be or continue a relationship with them. For some that feeling of betrayal does linger.

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