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Topic: I Love You... I'm Just Not IN Love With You.
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Xiiro Moderator Posts: 1393 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 12:48 AM
How do you tell an ex that your genuine care for them to be healthy and happy is not an invitation back into your life as a romantic prospect? In your opinion, is it possible to remain friends once this misconception has emerged?What are your Mercury, Sun, Venus, 3rd, 5th, and 7th Houses doing? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 12:56 AM
Absolutely not. I tried doing it once and it was the most painful, confusing, suffocating experience of my love life. Although, I was the one still in love. I would be friends with guys I ended up not liking that way, but they tend to go away after I confess the truth. VenusDiSirius mentioned it had something to do with my Mars in Gemini conjunct my Gemini ASC.Aries Sun (Taurus Moon) Aries Mercury Aries Venus -All conjuncting each other somehow in the 11H 3H Leo (Juno in Leo - the experience was with a Leo) 5H Libra (Pluto in Scorpio singleton) 7H Sagittarius (Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in Capricorn) IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 1114 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted December 27, 2012 01:09 AM
quote: is it possible to remain friends once this misconception has emerged?
NOOoooooooooooooo. Nope. If there was no misconception - then I'd say 'yes' because I've stayed friends with most of my exes. But now that he thinks you are still into him - oh boy! I don't envy your situation :\ Sun:Aries, Merc: Pisces, Venus: Taurus, 3rd-Leo, 5th-Libra (w. Pluto in Scorpio), 7th - Capricorn (w. Mars/Neptune & Moon)
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Odette Knowflake Posts: 1114 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted December 27, 2012 01:11 AM
OMG ^^ My 1111th post!!!! IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 8376 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 01:22 AM
impossible. my penis has gps and memory foam! it will start to rise if they sit next to me because i will remember all the sex and the way they smell, and their hair swaying beside me, their soft skin.. nope! cannot be! IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1289 From: a thousand years of solitude Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 01:52 AM
I think it depends on the person in question. If they are someone who is attached to you that much..its hard to just cut them off. Do they push your boundries or not? if not, it could be possible. If its me on the other hand..its wiser for me to just refrain from the person all together becuase my feelings can be hard to ingore. Guess it also depends on your control over yourself. I think what im trying to say though is, mosst cases it is hard to remain friends.I have Cancer Mercury, Gemini Sun , Taurus Venus. IP: Logged |
Xiiro Moderator Posts: 1393 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 02:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: impossible. my penis has gps and memory foam!
Your penis foams? There are pills. =) IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 719 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted December 27, 2012 02:14 AM
Probably not tbh, some people are just not wired that way as Sand points out.Which does sort of point to the basis of the relationship. And uhm Sand..you may want to have that checked out..your junk is on autopilot or that is the worse case of syphillis I've heard of since Al Capone. IP: Logged |
Xiiro Moderator Posts: 1393 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 02:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: I think it depends on the person in question. If they are someone who is attached to you that much..its hard to just cut them off. Do they push your boundries or not? if not, it could be possible. If its me on the other hand..its wiser for me to just refrain from the person all together becuase my feelings can be hard to ingore. Guess it also depends on your control over yourself. I think what im trying to say though is, mosst cases it is hard to remain freinds.I have Cancer Mercury, Gemini Sun , Taurus Venus.
I think the difficulty is that we had an intense and loving relationship, then he hit this space of self sabotage and I left him out of self-respect. Fast Forward 16 years >> a month ago, he made the decision to leave the place where we broke up (after my urging him to move on and start living his life) and has moved back into my area. Today we spoke about his current situation and reminisced about some of our prior adventures. On one hand he sounded like he was looking forward to adventuring out on his own, but his flirtation and repeated "I love yous" indicate he is gravitating toward me in an unhealthy way. It is generally part of my character to be blunt with people. I am not a completely heartless person however and can sense that being blunt in this case, would free me of my emotional "obligations", but cause problems in his progress. For the moment I am thinking of remaining supportive and directing conversations away from sticky paths may be the best course. Water heavy Aquarians are odd people, especially Uranus in Scorpio ruled Aquarians. Guess I'm going to just deal with things as they unfold. If he freaks out, it ultimately is not my problem. I just love him and want him to be happy in his own life. I think an additional thing to look at is my Saturn square Venus in Scorpio and the theme in my life to give up control of love and relationships. I feel in a way I am taking on a manipulative Saturnian role and that is contrary to my own healthy pursuits. IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1289 From: a thousand years of solitude Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 03:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Xiiro: I think the difficulty is that we had an intense and loving relationship, then he hit this space of self sabotage and I left him out of self-respect. Fast Forward 16 years >> a month ago, he made the decision to leave the place where we broke up (after my urging him to move on and start living his life) and has moved back into my area. Today we spoke about his current situation and reminisced about some of our prior adventures. On one hand he sounded like he was looking forward to adventuring out on his own, but his flirtation and repeated "I love yous" indicate he is gravitating toward me in an unhealthy way. It is generally part of my character to be blunt with people. I am not a completely heartless person however and can sense that being blunt in this case, would free me of my emotional "obligations", but cause problems in his progress. For the moment I am thinking of remaining supportive and directing conversations away from sticky paths may be the best course. Water heavy Aquarians are odd people, especially Uranus in Scorpio ruled Aquarians. Guess I'm going to just deal with things as they unfold. If he freaks out, it ultimately is not my problem. I just love him and want him to be happy in his own life. I think an additional thing to look at is my Saturn square Venus in Scorpio and the theme in my life to give up control of love and relationships. I feel in a way I am taking on a manipulative Saturnian role and that is contrary to my own healthy pursuits.
I know that these situations are one of the hardest to understand and get through. I think the choice you have made at the moment is a good one. You should be there for him when he needs it. The fact that he still shows his romantic feelings for you though should be discouraged by you. Tell him you'll always be here for him but everytime he makes you uncomfortable tell him that he is. Tell him he should be able to consider and understand your feelings just like you do his. If he still continues then let him know he is being inconsiderate and you can not continue.I know it is easier said than done but try your best carrying it out. What ever relationship you want to ultimately maintain, it should be a healthy one or none at all. Also, I have read Venus-Saturn is "binding". I dont know how much I really believe in the power of aspects over your own will power but it is an indicator of a karmic tie . In any case, I think the relationship can be maintained as long as it has to be if no one is hurting the other. But I do get you, its hard to pull the plug. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 719 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted December 27, 2012 03:09 AM
Pardon my earlier flippancy Xiiro.IP: Logged |
Xiiro Moderator Posts: 1393 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 03:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: I know that these situations are one of the hardest to understand and get through. I think the choice you have made at the moment is a good one. You should be there for him when he needs it. The fact that he still shows his romantic feelings for you though should be discouraged by you. Tell him you'll always be here for him but everytime he makes you uncomfortable tell him that he is. Tell him he should be able to consider and understand your feelings just like you do his. If he still continues then let him know he is being inconsiderate and you can not continue.I know it is easier said than done but try your best carrying it out. What ever relationship you want to ultimately maintain, it should be a healthy one or none at all.Also, I have read Venus-Saturn is "binding". I dont know how much I really believe in the power of aspects over your own will power but it is an indicator of a karmic tie . In any case, I think the relationship can be maintained as long as it has to be if no one is hurting the other. But I do get you, its hard to pull the plug.
Thanks violet, I appreciate your insight and the insight of all who responded. =) You have helped me broaden my perspective a bit. IP: Logged |
Xiiro Moderator Posts: 1393 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 03:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35:
Pardon my earlier flippancy Xiiro.
Flippancy is welcome and quite possibly mandatory. =D IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 8376 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 03:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35:
Probably not tbh, some people are just not wired that way as Sand points out.Which does sort of point to the basis of the relationship. And uhm Sand..you may want to have that checked out..your junk is on autopilot or that is the worse case of syphillis I've heard of since Al Capone.
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RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4485 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 05:13 AM
quote: it will start to rise if they sit next to me because i will remember all the sex and the way they smell, and their hair swaying beside me, their soft skin.. nope! cannot be!
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Xiiro Moderator Posts: 1393 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 05:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: impossible. my penis has gps and memory foam! it will start to rise if they sit next to me because i will remember all the sex and the way they smell, and their hair swaying beside me, their soft skin.. nope! cannot be!
I actually find this hot about Taurus and it is especially funny when the Taurus has strong Aries influences. All you have to do is pull your collar down a bit while you rub your neck, put you hand on their shoulder, or "accidentally" brush their leg with your hand and they drop shivering into the fetal position. it's just not cute when I'm not interested. IP: Logged |
ghanima81 Moderator Posts: 1057 From: Maine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2012 09:02 AM
X, My ex sounds like that dude. He dragged it out for two years after we split up. I was DONE but he would come back whenever he would have a split or a bad day, and because I am too nice (and I have to be since we share a child and he is an emotional volcano of a Cancer sun) he would always misread my kindness and "fall back in love" with me. He would tell me, and I would tell him NO. I don't feel that way, please move on. But he persisted. Until recently, about 6 months ago I suppose. It was torture, but finally, I know he doesn't have those feelings. THANK GODDESS. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 3009 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 09:03 AM
I'm in the "Be blunt and get it over with" cheering section. quote: One of the cruelest things you can do to another person is pretend you care about them more than you really do.-Douglas Coupland
But of course, my opinion doesn't count so much... because of my Venus-Neptune I have no experience with seeing these clearly defined lines you normal people see...almost every guy I dated and actually loved, even a little bit, I dated once and then again years later. And if I were single I would date them yet again, if they wanted to. IP: Logged |
ghanima81 Moderator Posts: 1057 From: Maine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2012 09:05 AM
Faith, I have too. LOL. And would again. Timing is everything, and there are reasons why people get together in the first place. Except the baby daddy ex. Eww. Eff no. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 3009 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 09:10 AM
^ about the baby daddy.And WHEW glad it's not just me recycling the old boyfriends. IP: Logged |
ghanima81 Moderator Posts: 1057 From: Maine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2012 09:18 AM
I have re-dated four exes. One was a year after the break-up, one was a year later, then broke up, then 7 years later. One was a few months, and one has been on again off again for four years. Yeah... that's how I roll... IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 3009 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 09:39 AM
^ I think it's kind of sweet!"After all these stops and starts we keep coming back to these two hearts...' Sorry if I'm going off topic though.
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ghanima81 Moderator Posts: 1057 From: Maine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2012 10:16 AM
Well, the on and off one wasn't out of lack of love, but necessity. Or, at least to keep the aforementioned peace. But I don't care about that anymore. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 922 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 11:03 AM
I guess I'm in the opposite camp of a few of you. I see an ex and think, "There's a reason for the split," ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 2093 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted December 27, 2012 11:05 AM
Exes should take a year or two from contact before attempting to establish a friendship so the boundaries are clear. This is a hard and fast rule and it works.IP: Logged |