posted December 31, 2012 01:55 PM            

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posted December 31, 2012 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you ever feel it is easier to not succeed, as is is not so scary?

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posted January 03, 2013 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
sorry to be harsh .. but the "afraid of success" stuff is a bunch of crap... it makes zero sense, success is the desired outcome, i dont think theres anyone alive who doesnt want to succeed , people are afraid of failure, not success... they are afraid of wasting time and effort on something that wont pan
out. i guarantee you that if
people could see the future and
knew they would succeed at
something they'd it do it in a heartbeat. some examples: suppose a guy
sees a beautiful woman
he wants to ask out very
badly, but he chickens
out instead. i'd be willing
to bet his decision to
chicken out was based
on a fear of rejection, not success. i doubt he e would be thinking"she might really like me , i better not ask her out. he was probably thinking more along the lines of " who am i kidding? she would never go out with a guy like me."another example: suppose a man is unemployed and is looking for a job and he sees a great job with great,pay and benefits
listed in the paper. he is very interested in the job but decides against applying for an interview, why do you think he did that? i highly doubt he was thinking"i have a great chance of getting this job, better not apply!" he was prolly thinking more along the lines of " i really want this job but chances are i wouldnt get it, theres probably 100s of applicants who are more qualified than me, i would only be,wasting time and gas money if i went to apply."

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You are cool. You can say anything to me. The fear of success is both a wish and a fear. I have both. I want success but I am afraid of it for many reasons. Some I know and some I don't i.e they are subconscious.

One reason to be afraid of it is that it brings out a LOT of hatred from certain people who have not done what you have. I am not saying I am the most successful person, or even that successful. I am just saying that I am having some, small success. I find that certain people really hate you for it and will try to bring you down.

This is an example of one lesson that comes from it and the larger lesson is "Eff em"

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posted January 03, 2013 03:06 PM            

The issue is that a lot of people don't see what is behind the success. It's often more than what it appears to be superficially.

I know I struggled hard for my success. It does engender envy, and occasionally hatred. That can't be helped.

posted January 03, 2013 06:09 PM            

Personally i always try to be in a consious state of mind to limit my jealousy etc and not affecting my goals. I am usually low profile when it comes to work success related areas which some people judge my humility as being pretentious lol thats why i say theres too many problems to care about than what others think about you. I have chiron in leo which sometimes cause me to feel less deserving,thus not accepting any credit for what i have done which i usually deserve more. This however doesnt stop me from attaining success because i know i am more capable to do it so why let some lesser minds judging affect me.We can only hope that one day these people especially the ones we care about will see us differently.

posted January 03, 2013 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by watermonkey:

@ami yeah success do bring hatred/envy/jealousy from others which are all derived from the core human feeling - selfishness, each to an certain extent-usually the non-succesful people would think/feel this way more i noticed which was probably the reason why they wasnt more succcesful(because they were too caught up with their emotions e.g jealousy, distracted from their focus/purpose thus not resulting in having more success) so who is to be blame?, its part of the ugly side of humans- i mean who doesnt judge?? its one natural instinct to see the negative side always instead of the good ones because of selfishness and pride in which we feel we can do better. but i think
"more succesful people" sees others success slightly differently, they seek the points where they could model and impart/improve in their own areas and are always improving themselves, though it affects their ego- they control and harness their emotions and use it as a motivation spurring them to work harder -they are challenging themsleves not others. I think the underlying reason lies in ourselves-its how we see ourselves and the irrational comparison of how we think others see us as -which logically we know it differs from person to person.

Personally i always try to be in a consious state of mind to limit my jealousy etc and not affecting my goals. I am usually low profile when it comes to work success related areas which some people judge my humility as being pretentious lol thats why i say theres too many problems to care about than what others think about you. I have chiron in leo which sometimes cause me to feel less deserving,thus not accepting any credit for what i have done which i usually deserve more. This however doesnt stop me from attaining success because i know i am more capable to do it so why let some lesser minds judging affect me.We can only hope that one day these people especially the ones we care about will see us differently.

Yep, I can blow people off more( in a healthy way, of course )

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posted January 03, 2013 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by watermonkey:
@ami lol sorry i dont really get your slang as i am from asia, what do you mean by blow people off healthily??

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LOL Just not pay any attention

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posted January 11, 2013 04:00 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
sorry to be harsh .. but the "afraid of success" stuff is a bunch of crap... it makes zero sense, success is the desired outcome, i dont think theres anyone alive who doesnt want to succeed , people are afraid of failure, not success... they are afraid of wasting time and effort on something that wont pan out. i guarantee you that if
people could see the future and knew they would succeed at something they'd it do it in a heartbeat. some examples: suppose a guy sees a beautiful woman he wants to ask out very badly, but he chickens out instead. i'd be willing to bet his decision to chicken out was based on a fear of rejection, not success. i doubt he e would be thinking"she might really like me , i better not ask her out. he was probably thinking more along the lines of " who am i kidding? she would never go out with a guy like me."another example: suppose a man is unemployed and is looking for a job and he sees a great job with great, pay and benefits listed in the paper. he is very interested in the job but decides against applying for an interview, why do you think he did that? i highly doubt he was thinking"i have a great chance of getting this job, better not apply!" he was prolly thinking more along the lines of " i really want this job but chances are i wouldnt get it, theres probably 100s of applicants who are more qualified than me, i would only be,wasting time and gas money if i went to apply."

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THIS. ^ Agree.

posted January 15, 2013 11:27 PM            

Success should be a driver to make someone work hard or achieve something in life.

But people have different ideas of what success is. It could be material/financial success. It could be good grades or even a 16 yrs old earning there drivers license.

If its material/financial sucess, you would have to careful to stick to your roots, not forget who you really are and where you've come from.

posted January 16, 2013 02:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you ever feel it is easier to not succeed, as is is not so scary?

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posted January 17, 2013 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you ever feel it is easier to not succeed, as is is not so scary?

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I think it is harder for people to deal with the upkeep that success entails so maybe failing, or not even failing but just being average, will do for most people. I remember when I was in sixth grade I had a best friend, also a Leo, and we were attached at the hip. We were going through puberty so we were walking hormones, all about celebrities, boys and hair and make-up (we were allowed to wear lipgloss and nail polish) and we let school and grade fall by the wayside. That was bad because we were in advanced placement classes and if we had too many screw-ups we would be kicked out. We didn't care though, we were having so much fun! So mid-quarter my mom dragged me along to a parent-teacher conference to straighten me out. They were talking about me and how I'm not "applying myself" and I said "I wish I was always dumb so people wouldn't expect me to be so smart all of the time!" My teacher said, "The fact that you realize that proves that you could never 'be dumb', don't waste this opportunity..." So, I had to work a little harder on three digit multiplication and long division and give up my band instrument (clarinet) but I stayed in the program and I did well academically throughout my life. My friend was dropped from the program, and she stopped talking to me because I told her crush...

My point is, I could have just given up because it would have been easier to just have fun and ride it out. Success takes a little bit more work, and people begin to expect it all of the time, so lots of people just don't want to go for it.

posted January 17, 2013 02:20 PM            

You get hardened in a good way, that when people for whom you have no respect, don't like you, you don't care

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