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Topic: Blood and Vengeance
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Alma Sun
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From: The East Coast
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posted January 11, 2013 12:11 PM
  
When is it okay? Why do evil people always get away with doing horrible things to others. Where's the justice?  It seems like the only way to get it is to deliver it yourself. ------------------
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Hera
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posted January 11, 2013 12:59 PM
It's never okay.. just perpetuates the vicious circle. Violence and abuse breed more violence and abuse. You don't fight fire with fire, you fight it with water.  IP: Logged |
Alma Sun
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posted January 11, 2013 02:10 PM
I've felt the same way as you.. but not right now. These people did something really messed up to my family member. I can't even stomach it. The one thing keeping me from flying off the handle is the fact that I keep telling myself they'll get theirs. It just doesn't seem fast enough. And I really want their blood. But I'm not willing to lose everything for those pieces of **** .
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Hera
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posted January 11, 2013 03:23 PM
Alma, I am really sorry. Injustice is unbearable for me as well. I do understand, but I don't think vengeance is the way. Remember in the grand scheme of things justice will be done. I pray for you and your family member. May you heal and find your resolution and peace. Hugs IP: Logged |
T
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posted January 11, 2013 04:18 PM
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Why do evil people always get away with doing horrible things to others.
They don't get away with it. Ever. And I know you already know that. It's okay to be angry at extreme injustices, and especially when they happen to people you love and care about, or stem from people you once cared about. Had a feeling something major had to have gone on for you to feel this way and wonder/ask about this because you are such a wise, loving and strong person. Just know that it won't go unpunished, it really won't and release yourself from wanting to be the punisher or seek revenge. To do so would only perpetuate the problem and make things worse. It's not your burden to have to hold or carry out and not up to you when it comes back to them. It really isnt. Even if you don't see a balancing of karma right away, it doenst mean it won't happen. Don't let something disgusting that happened allow you to sink to a low level. You are better than that. I know you are anyway, just from the years I've gotten to know you on the forums. You are stronger than your anger & love always wins out. Remember that. Also, feeling angry is okay (and allowing yourself time to work through it). But it's never a good time to act on your emotions. You will move through it and become stronger and wiser than you already are. (((hugs Alma)))  IP: Logged |
libraschoice77
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From: NYC
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 11, 2013 04:19 PM
Must have been aweful, I have never seen you so angry in your posts before. Karma will bite them in the butt hard for what they did. Eventually everyone gets what they deserve. Hope things get better for you and your family  IP: Logged |
T
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posted January 11, 2013 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
You don't fight fire with fire, you fight it with water.
Love that! & even small drops of water (tears) can be powerful and cleansing enough, even if just for you, because that's really what's important - you and how you are feeling inside. Don't hold that anger in your heart. It will only serve to hurt you (and others more). Water is fluid, soft and yielding. But water will wear away rock, which is rigid and cannot yield. As a rule, whatever is fluid, soft and yielding will overcome whatever is rigid and hard. This is another paradox: what is soft is strong.
Lao-Tzu Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
Buddha (you already know that though. sometimes reminders are good  IP: Logged |
Alma Sun
Moderator Posts: 2130
From: The East Coast
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted January 11, 2013 04:37 PM
I hear you, and I really hope so. What gets me the most is that they are smug about what they did. Like it's the greatest life achievement to injure someone like that.
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Remember in the grand scheme of things justice will be done.
^^^Yes, this. Still seething, but it's comforting to read your words above. I'm keeping it in mind. Thank you, Hera.
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T
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posted January 11, 2013 04:44 PM
TIme is also a great healer. Give yourself and the situation some of that and you will be sure to see thing differently.IP: Logged |
Alma Sun
Moderator Posts: 2130
From: The East Coast
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted January 11, 2013 04:47 PM
T, I don't even know how to reply to what you wrote.. honestly you brought tears to my eyes. LC77, I know it sounds terrible but I hope they do get their just deserts. I feel so stuck so just venting. Please don't worry. You guys... all I can say right now is thank you. ------------------
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T
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posted January 11, 2013 04:53 PM
Good! It resonated with your heart and inner wisdom then.Lots of Love to you. You WILL get through it. ((( ))) IP: Logged |
sand
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posted January 11, 2013 09:26 PM
Like don't go to jail for it or anything but me I would take it and serve the karma in the next life! ...and the next life.. And the next! (U know just in case I keep getting the same life and am faced with the same situation again)IP: Logged |
Alma Sun
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From: The East Coast
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted January 13, 2013 12:46 PM
^ Lol sounds like your Taurean patience. My family member is recovering, voice is returning and I'm finding out more of the story. As far as the scheming cowards, they're scared to come out of their houses at the moment. I've heard a few bad things are already happening around them. And I feel no sympathy for them whatsoever.
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Hera
Moderator Posts: 5321
From: the OR
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 13, 2013 12:56 PM
Is there any way you can take legal action against them?IP: Logged |
libraschoice77
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From: NYC
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 13, 2013 12:58 PM
Glad you seem better today Alma Sun, sounds like their Karma is already kicking in...IP: Logged |
Alma Sun
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Registered: Mar 2011
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posted January 13, 2013 01:23 PM
Hera, that's what my dad suggested/wanted. But our other family member is against it.
LC77, thank you. And indeed, 2 of the 3 involved are going through their Saturn return at the moment. I hope they enjoy every minute of it.
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Hera
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posted January 13, 2013 02:43 PM
Is your other family member the victim? Then it might be understandable that he or she doesn't want to press charges, in the sense that when you are in that situation, all you want is to make it go away, not act on something that will drag it indefinitely. Many times victims feel guilty thinking they brought it on themselves and also ashamed for making loved ones go through horrible times, feeling judged and that they have to explain themselves and their actions over and over again. Sometimes when you take legal action it seems like the victim is on trial, having their lives under the microscope. But if what those people did is illegal and it sounds as if it was, talk to your family member and tell him or her that this is the right thing to do, that it wasn't their fault and that you'll be there by their side through the whole process but they need to be brave so someone else doesn't suffer at their hands in the future and they shouldn't get away with it and think it is allowed to treat people like that. If you can take legal action, then I feel that you will get your justice. And in the long run it will make your family member brave and strong enough to stand for the right thing.
EDIT - if the victim is a minor, you can press charges on their behalf if you're their legal guardian. Not sure how the law goes where you are but I imagine this is true in most countries if not all.
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T
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posted January 13, 2013 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Alma Sun:
^ Lol sounds like your Taurean patience. My family member is recovering, voice is returning and I'm finding out more of the story.
Glad to hear your family member is doing better & that you are staying strong. Yeah, Saturn returns are always a day of reckoning for people, in one way or another. Whether they like it or not. *
Stay strong Alma. x IP: Logged |
T
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posted January 13, 2013 08:11 PM
Do you still have your dog? I really hope so.IP: Logged |
Alma Sun
Moderator Posts: 2130
From: The East Coast
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted January 14, 2013 09:27 AM
Hera , the other Family member, yeah he's the victim. He doesn't believe in the justice system and wants to handle it HIS way, like he's always done in the past. Our family and friends are behind him. Whatever his friends have done since/and whatever he feels should be done some more. T, we are, thank you. And yeah she's still with us. ------------------
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libraschoice77
Knowflake Posts: 678
From: NYC
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 02, 2013 05:37 PM
Just wanted to see how you were doing Alma Sun? And if your ok?IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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From: the future
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 02, 2013 09:31 PM
*edit* .wrong thread lol. IP: Logged |
Stawr
Moderator Posts: 2220
From: N. America
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted February 04, 2013 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
You don't fight fire with fire, you fight it with water.
I like that. IP: Logged |
Alma Sun
Moderator Posts: 2130
From: The East Coast
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted February 17, 2013 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
Just wanted to see how you were doing Alma Sun? And if your ok?
I'm okay! Hope all is well with you too.  ------------------
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