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Topic: What would be aspects in the natal chart which would signify attraction to teens?
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Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 575 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 08, 2012 07:05 PM
^ You were asking about teenage girls not children. Just because you had your period at 8 does not mean you ever be considered eligible to bare a child in ancient times or be a suitable mother. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 575 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 08, 2012 07:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Still gross for an older man to want to have a relationship/sex with me though (and planning on to act out on it)... I am very emotionally and mentally immature especially when I Was 11-12.. sick men
Thats very young, most men don't find girls that young to be attractive. I thought you men't like 16 or 15 IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1303 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted December 08, 2012 07:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: ^ You were asking about teenage girls not children. Just because you had your period at 8 does not mean you ever be considered eligible to bare a child in ancient times or be a suitable mother.
I thought you said teenage girls because most normal people have their period at around 12-13 but the body still develops around after the period for about 2-3 so I disagree IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1303 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted December 08, 2012 07:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: Thats very young, most men don't find girls that young to be attractive. I thought you men't like 16 or 15
oh yeah no i meant like 12-14 range usually 15 is getting there but 16 is not creepy IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 1814 From: *The Land of Oz* Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 08, 2012 07:16 PM
They still mistake me for being 15 (almost 30!!!) -- and I still find it disgusting - (extremely, nauseatingly revolting, especially since I am a mother now) --- when they still approach me as though I'm a mere child~ and you can argue the definitions and lines until your face turns blue - anyone over the age of majority who wishes to copulate with an underage person falls under the same damn label in my mind~ and many other persons minds.... taboo or fetish --- it is any normal mother/father's worse nightmare today and today is what matters*~ and those folks are out there~ and I still deal with them regularly --- "hey cutie, how old are you??? did you just get outta school?" --- me. "how old do I look, moron" --- "don't get snappy, missy~ I just wanna hang... where do you live.." --- me, "how old do I look???" --- them, "12, maybe 14..." (this happened just last spring btw --- "and how old are you, mister....?" (guy gets nervous now) "29, but it's alright... we can just chill out for awhile..." --- persistent b@stard.... I was furious~ beyond words after that... x_X I read him the riot act - right there very loud and in public~ <--- zero tolerance for perverts who come onto young girls/boys~ soooo while I'd love to assist in the astrological analysis in anyway~ and haven't really done much yet~ lol I'mma step out and cool off for a bit~ (>_< #)D sensitive subject for me~ <3 KQ - great topic btw ^^; *moodygoatseekssolitude*
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1303 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted December 08, 2012 07:18 PM
thanks Saturine IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1303 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted December 08, 2012 07:24 PM
Oh on the other hand I am reminded of the time when I was 10 ( I looked 12-14) and I looked out the window and there was a young man ( about 19 - 22 ) without his shirt on (he was ripped) and he was telling me to come out my house... scaryFew weeks ago there was this man in his early 30's in the bus real creepy like said, "Excuse me but Im not hitting on you but your hat is cute" and he whispered it so my mom wouldnt hear me later on he kept talking to me.. once he find out I was 14 he was like "If i had a daughter like that Id be in jail right now because so many guys wouldn't back off of her" RIGHT in front of my mom too. he kept staring at me too and was staring at my breast... too gross!! IP: Logged |
StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 09, 2012 01:57 AM
My initial thoughts were uranus aspects to venus and/or mars, but I don't want to come right out and say that, because I know how people's minds work, and then they'll conclude that EVERYbody with those aspects, is a kiddie-diddler. When the fact is, that those types of aspects could indicate any number of things and not necessarily that.The Nabokov asteroid thing is probably a good start. Never read "Lolita", have no desire to - but from what I've heard, doesn't the book revolve around a grown man and his sexual obsession with a teenaged girl? As far as the fact that in the past, people married teenaged girls...just because something was a norm in the past, doesn't make it okay. Pedophilia and things like that were common (and deemed okay) in ancient civilizations too. So was slavery. So was the concept that women were owned by their husbands and basically chattel. So was the idea of human sacrifices...I could go on and on. Just because something has an established backhistory of being considered apropriate behavior, doesn't mean by default that it is. Why do older guys like teenage girls though? In a way, I "get" it - they have the curves that adult women do, only without the cellulite, wrinkles, stretch marks and sagging...also, they may not have all the emotional and psychological baggage and hangups as adult women do, and will make less demands. Then there's the fact that, with a teenage girl, they're automatically impressed and totally snowed by, whatever you do and think you're totally awesome, purely because you're older than they are. At that age, teens are usually in a rush to be older than they are, and so anyone older has a higher cache to them. So when you look at it that way, I can see why older guys like the idea of a teenage girl. Having said that, I still think it's disgusting, simply because we all know that when you're a teenager you don't know your head from your ar$e; even the teenagers who appear to be/think they are, incredibly mature for their age, are still nowhere near the level mentally and emotionally of an adult. I know I'll probably get booed for that comment by the teenagers in the audience, but honestly this is something you won't understand until you're older, yourself. When I was 16, I thought I was appallingly mature and had the mind of an adult too. It's only after you're actually an adult and look back that you realize that there is a real, marked difference between the headspace and maturity level you were at as a teenager and where you wind up as an adult. And that's why dating teenagers is so reprehensible to me, because no matter how they look on the outside, and no matter how self-possessed they can make themselves appear, they're still nowhere near the emotional and psychological level of an adult, and where they would need to be in order to be able to make real, informed choices in a romantic and sexual relationship. They just aren't. There isn't anything wrong with that, because that's the natural process of growth and development. They are where they are, and where they're meant to be for their age. But for an adult to actively get involved with a teenager when they know this themselves, to me it just reeks of exploitation and taking advantage. Sure, it's not like pulling someone into a side alley and raping them, but really it's the same concept, because you're still taking advantage of someone who isn't TRULY in a position to know what they're getting themselves into, in order to give knowledgeable and informed consent. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 09, 2012 02:32 AM
I sort of have this because even 30 year olds here look like teens! IP: Logged |
DeathIsanIllusion Knowflake Posts: 218 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 09, 2012 06:35 AM
Check also asteroids Lola 463, Dolores 1277, and Hazel 3846 for Lolita/Dolores Haze, and Humboldt 4877 for Humbert. ------------------ Been studying Astrology since 2002; posted on LL between 2006 and 2008; extremely rabid 24/7 forum lurker & big fan since then until 2012. LL is completely amazing!! We are all writing here Astrology history!! IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 1068 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 09, 2012 11:34 AM
This topic really bothers me. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4730 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 09, 2012 11:39 AM
It's disgusting and lust for children borders on being illegal. If I catch any man around me who lusts for a girl under 18, I swear I will give him some free thought process adjustments. IP: Logged |
StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 10, 2012 06:21 PM
quote: This topic really bothers me.
That's a good sign; I think it makes us all a bit squeamish. I'd be worried if it didn't. :lol:
quote: Originally posted by DeathIsanIllusion: Check also asteroids Lola 463, Dolores 1277, and Hazel 3846 for Lolita/Dolores Haze, and Humboldt 4877 for Humbert.
I fed those into my chart just to do it...got some odd results. Humboldt is in a *tight* conjunction with my ascendant (and south node - which happens to be conjunct the asteroid Lust); Lola is conjunct my midheaven and chart ruler. I think Delores is conjunct my Venus too. I'm assuming that means in a past life I wasn't much different from R. Kelly. *jumps through closed window*
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1303 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted December 10, 2012 06:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by StacyLewis:
I fed those into my chart just to do it...got some odd results. Humboldt is in a *tight* conjunction with my ascendant (and south node - which happens to be conjunct the asteroid Lust); Lola is conjunct my midheaven and chart ruler. I think Delores is conjunct my Venus too.I'm assuming that means in a past life I wasn't much different from R. Kelly. *jumps through closed window*
LOL!!!!
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1303 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted February 07, 2013 01:01 PM
So Kerosene (?) Now tell me, what age is it for a girl is it normal for her to be "sexually attractive" (to at least men around 30). 15?IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 575 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 07, 2013 01:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: So Kerosene (?) Now tell me, what age is it for a girl is it normal for her to be "sexually attractive" (to at least men around 30). 15?
This whole topic is unrealistic... The real world is not normal, there is no "standard". Times have changed, 100 years ago this was the norm, like it or not everyone lol. Just know my gender is generally barbaric like they were in the ancient times. Granted not all men are like this, I'm not attracted young girls, I'm actually attracted to older people. For starters I've known young girls that dress like they're 20, those are the girls that have older boyfriends... I'm sorry you have been hit on by and older man, thats just disgusting. My mother caught my uncle letting me suck wine off his finger when I was 5, men can be animals...
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4730 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted February 07, 2013 02:05 PM
To Moderators, this topic is not only disgusting, it is highly illegal across every single jurisdiction in every civilized country.The Original Poster is 14 years old and should not even be part of Sweet Peas. Law Enforcement would have a field day. Shut Down This Thread!!! IP: Logged |