posted April 07, 2013 10:09 PM            

And paid for them, from the machete to the knee to graffitti on the local bar top.

What has struck me is this, imo women seem to take this sort of odd pleasure in watching men who screw up take responsibility for their mistakes..then put themselves up for ridicule!

For example years ago when I hit my knee with a machete Lisa, my GF at the time gave me a ride to a local clinic say 3 days afterwards.

Dr comes in, looks at my knee and just says:

"okay, you have full range of motion, no arteries were hit, just keep the wound clean"

To which Lisa and the nurse look at each other and say, with a look of disappointment:

"No stitches?!!?"

It was as if, they both were disappointed that they did not get to watch me suffer further!

I bring it up as it has happened a few more times over the years, and I'm like uhm..what up with that?

To make it clear, I'm quite certain the women who were doing so cared about me, this is not a sort of poor me thread, it's more it just seems like women seem to think when someone they like messes up then they deserve no pity, more like, some low level pain or something...

posted April 07, 2013 11:40 PM            

I'm not a fan of seeing anyone in pain, I've been through a great deal in my own life so it's not something I'd wish on others. But when I was younger (high school/middle school), I was a bit of a tom boy and I'd have power struggles with some of the boys my age. I defended my friends a lot from jerkish arrogant people. I was a no nonsense gal, and they'd try to challenge me because they felt threatened by me or who knows were in love. Moments where they had to deal with real life problems like the rest of us, like getting hurt or failing at something gave me a twinge of satisfaction in the moment. I didn't want them to suffer, I just wanted them to grow up because they were jerks. It was never about reveling in their misery or pain but hoping that these tough experiences would make them stronger, but better people. I quickly stopped caring about this kind of crap years ago though. It honestly doesn't matter, I'm more concerned with helping people get their stuff together not watching them suffer in pain satisfyingly.

posted April 07, 2013 11:45 PM            

Sort of like when men gather around a fire with a beer and say "yep".

There is sort of this "..hmm, he'd better have learned his lesson this time.." sort of thing.

A pursed lipped sort of "uhm hmm..told you not to do that and here you are.."

Believe it or not, it's one of the things I adore about women, amongst men it's more like

posted April 08, 2013 12:25 AM            

And it is not a question of being mean per se, that was not the sense of it, more akin to the reason why those spray on anti biotics and new skin sting.

posted April 08, 2013 12:44 AM            

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It's not so much pain, it is more a sort of smug, tight lipped, head nod thing!

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posted April 08, 2013 12:47 AM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
But I feel that could happen with anyone, not just women in that type of a situation. Maybe the men I've known have been more expressive and vocal about their concerns and smugness, but I wouldn't say this is solely applied to woman I think it can apply to both. It might appear like woman do this more because of gender biases.

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Usually I can see it, however in this case I've seen it enough to know it.

Semi smile, head nod, look, oh my yes.

posted April 08, 2013 04:54 AM            

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I think everyone should take responsibility for their actions... not so much "mistakes" - since mistakes are supposedly innocent, rather than intentional.

I get no pleasure out of watching people take responsibility.
I kind of expect it to be honest. Because they *should* take responsibility.

When it's not forthcoming, it just makes me lose trust in that person.
Someone who cannot admit to themselves that they did the wrong thing & learn something from that... seems unreliable to me.

By contrast to Saturnian/Capricorn influence... I find Jupiterian/Sagittarius influence to be very laissez-faire about these things and very keen on the idea of never having any responsibilities whatsoever... and never having to take accountability for anything.

posted April 08, 2013 04:57 AM            

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It might appear like woman do this more because of gender biases in our society.

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Ha!

Exactly...

Because we all know women are serious plain Janes.. and the men are clowns or rebels.

Ridicu-lash!!!

Absolutely Ridicu-lash!

posted April 08, 2013 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I was mowing once and a rock flew up and hit me roght in the twig and berries and i immediately fell to my knees in pain and started cussing up a storm and i saw some women across the street laughing at me. but to be fair i would have laughed if the same thing had happened to someone else.

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Ouch..

posted April 08, 2013 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I was mowing once and a rock flew up and hit me roght in the twig and berries and i immediately fell to my knees in pain and started cussing up a storm and i saw some women across the street laughing at me. but to be fair i would have laughed if the same thing had happened to someone else.

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posted April 08, 2013 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I was mowing once and a rock flew up and hit me roght in the twig and berries and i immediately fell to my knees in pain and started cussing up a storm and i saw some women across the street laughing at me. but to be fair i would have laughed if the same thing had happened to someone else.

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That reminds me of when a skateboarder doing all kinds of grinds over ledges, benches, and the like, suddenly decided to try doing the same to a rail, but he lost control and fell on the rail, and he was unable to get up for awhile. The other boys were laughing furiously (I didn't, but I didn't help because boys hated that), though I also recall an older woman who hated us (and looked for excuses to call the police, enough that the police stopped responding to her calls so much) who was laughing hard, too, and her laughter sounded cruel to me.

Now it's possible she's just a fan of slapstick (which I'm normally not), it could be the boys trying to laugh it off showing bravado was infectious, but there was something malicious about her laugh, or so it seemed to me. Still, she was a mean person in general (I heard she pulled a gun on someone who cut her off in traffic before, though that was just a rumor), and she especially didn't like us, and of course seeing others as being less than human does seem to open up the door to all kinds of bullying and mistreatment (genocide in extreme cases when the government agrees they're less than human) which cruel laughter would be the least. And it's interesting to me how many people pretend they're scared of those they bully but obviously are not when they taunt their victims in such ways (like her laughing at us knowing we weren't going to "thrash" her with our skateboards but lying to the police about how scared we made her feel for her safety).