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ueharaa
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posted April 10, 2013 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just as the title states. Fear, pain and depression for whatever reason that is. I know it can really prevent someone from functioning normally. So what can one do to handle it? So that it does not affect him/her too much and maintain control over it? Is it even possible?

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posted April 10, 2013 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It certainly is possible because many people do it. Granted, I'm sure your natal chart will help or hinder you with it, and maybe it's not possible for everyone.

Since there are no "one size fits all" solutions that I can think of offhand I'm not going to make any specific suggestions in your case. I'll just say look into self-hypnosis with an emphasis on changing dreams, thought patterns (careful not to go to the other extreme from rabid pessimism to rabid optimism, both extremes often do more harm than good), and putting fears into perspective. Reigning in the fear also cuts back on adrenaline which in turn cuts back on depression (when there's too much adrenaline in the system it acts as a toxin that can cause depression).

I've personally found the sauna wonderful. It might just be I enjoy the hot/cold extremes (I mix it with cold showers), but I suspect it helps me sweat out certain toxins, and the exercise helps in multiple ways, too. Learning ways to handle the past repeating helps a lot, too (for example, if abused then taking Krav Maga classes can help you both work out the adrenaline and feel more confident in protecting yourself and thus less afraid and so less depressed, plus it would likely help you mix with more positive people who can inspire you).

And back to self-hypnosis, another possibility might be to imagine the part of you paralyzed by these emotions as a child and an adult in your brain taking over. That is become your own parent. Just because you feel these things doesn't mean they have to dominate you (they don't me) and when they don't rob you of self-control then they gradually lose a lot of power. I didn't have to do that as I've got enough air in my chart to not drown in water, yet I did something similar: after noticing that my repeat nightmares were echoes of childhood (helpless, unable to lock doors, guns wouldn't work, etc) I used self-hypnosis to imagine adult-me teaching and re-raising child-me with child-me growing up into adult-me, and though it took several months it had an affect and I believe it's why those nightmares are now rare, and often not as bad when they do happen (now doors lock, I'm not so helpless, etc) because I managed to heal the scarred parts of me and allow those parts to "grow up" and be free of the pain (or at least its power over me).

And for more on how I personally deal with things like that:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/001074.html

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ueharaa
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posted April 11, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. I am going to read the thread you linked me too and see if there's some "methods" here that I can learn from you.
By the way, I hope it worked and you're now better

From what I understand, the key is to make the fears on which the depression is sometimes based on irrelevant. Also I would have never thought about self hypnosis to visualize myself getting control over the bad thoughts, feelings, and fears.
Again thank you for this.

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posted April 11, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Firstly, I think you'd have to accept that you can't just stop one day...don't feel guilty for experiencing any of those things. I think it's a journey and you have to start slow/small. And of course it will be hard, but if you were to keep trying, you'd get to where you want to be.

This is speaking generally, the 'you' not directed at anyone in particular.

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posted April 11, 2013 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.diycouturier.com/post/47249603128/21-tips-to-keep-your-**** -together-when-youre

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posted April 11, 2013 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by freebrainstorms:
http://www.diycouturier.com/post/47249603128/21-tips-to-keep-your-**** -together-when-youre


wow thanks for this.

It's interesting she mentions "go see a doctor"
Do you think people can fight depression without the help of a professional ? Or will it ultimately come back if it is not cured ? Can it ever be cured anyway?
Is there a way back to normal?

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posted April 11, 2013 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Firstly, I think you'd have to accept that you can't just stop one day...don't feel guilty for experiencing any of those things. I think it's a journey and you have to start slow/small. And of course it will be hard, but if you were to keep trying, you'd get to where you want to be.

This is speaking generally, the 'you' not directed at anyone in particular.


You're probably right. Numbing the feelings never does any god. But dwelling too much on it can bring some nasty thought patterns that I'd rather avoid...

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posted April 12, 2013 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
talking to somebody objective ALWAYS helps - for people who are depressed AND for people who aren't.
they don't need to be a prescribing psychiatrist/doctor or anything, in fact i think everybody should try talking to somebody who doesn't prescribe pills first.

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posted April 13, 2013 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ueharaa, do you have someone who you can talk to? Then please do so. Just talking things out, discussing them, listening to others and trying to work out some solution itself helps a lot irrespective of the BIG results later. Thats my own experience.
Another thing is to try to be optimistic. Think and imagine that things will turn out better. BE positive. All these things have helped me a lot. Not that the situations change much all the time but we definately get the grit and the balance to go through them. Again from my own experience.

This helps us to indulge our attention in other things. Going a little away from these things i.e. fear pain etc helps us to find some other creative ways to tackle the same situations as we are more calm and cool. I have done all this and so telling you from my own experience.

And last but not the least do you meditate or have faith in a higher power say GOD? I chant HIS name and turn within. Believe me when i say we have a great reservoir of, i don't know what to call it, say power, peace,strength,joy,effulgence, whatver. But once you take a bath in it all these things will be small and you will be large. Telling you all this again from my own experience. Try it please.

And if you are already doing all this just hold on. Because the SUN HAS TO RISE sooner than later.

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posted April 13, 2013 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ueharaa:
wow thanks for this.

It's interesting she mentions "go see a doctor"
Do you think people can fight depression without the help of a professional ? Or will it ultimately come back if it is not cured ? Can it ever be cured anyway?
Is there a way back to normal?


Seeking professional/medical attention is always helpful but sometimes people seek for help, ask for advice and all but in the end, they won't follow the advices given.

I'd say it's a two way process. Receiving help from others will have more efficacy if they also help themselves fight whatever inner demons they have. Sometimes, it's a matter of mind over matter (although, depression is mostly caused by chemical imbalances in the brain, if I remember correctly)

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posted April 18, 2013 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Love&Light:
Hi ueharaa, do you have someone who you can talk to? Then please do so. Just talking things out, discussing them, listening to others and trying to work out some solution itself helps a lot irrespective of the BIG results later. Thats my own experience.
Another thing is to try to be optimistic. Think and imagine that things will turn out better. BE positive. All these things have helped me a lot. Not that the situations change much all the time but we definately get the grit and the balance to go through them. Again from my own experience.

This helps us to indulge our attention in other things. Going a little away from these things i.e. fear pain etc helps us to find some other creative ways to tackle the same situations as we are more calm and cool. I have done all this and so telling you from my own experience.

And last but not the least do you meditate or have faith in a higher power say GOD? I chant HIS name and turn within. Believe me when i say we have a great reservoir of, i don't know what to call it, say power, peace,strength,joy,effulgence, whatver. But once you take a bath in it all these things will be small and you will be large. Telling you all this again from my own experience. Try it please.

And if you are already doing all this just hold on. Because the SUN HAS TO RISE sooner than later.


Hi Love&Light,
I don't have anyone to talk to. I've tried bringing the issue before and well it was a bad experience. I really don't think that the few people I know are suited for this or even care about this. And optimism doesn't really seem to work for me. I just try to avoid thinking about the future ...
I do believe in God though and it has helped me a lot so far.
thank you for those advice.


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posted April 18, 2013 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I am at my lowest;
as in suicidal;
I tell myself;
wait 24 hours.
It gives me a chance to look out from that abysmal pit of despair and nonstop pain,
and think of reasons to go on.
At the moment not quite suicidal;
though the thought has crossed my mind during this latest woe, Chicken Pox with complications on top of my other ills and hardships.
I post here when up for meds,
then go back to bed to help heal.
I guess I just try to appreciate the little things most folks take for granted,
but I savor because I am not always able to function normally.
I just keep hoping things will get better.

I guess what I am saying is;
count your blessings.
And;
If you do not have anyone to talk to;
then talk to us all here!{{{hugs }}}

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ueharaa
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posted April 19, 2013 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Feeling suicidal is a very awful feeling. I've been there and I think it is more of a cry for help, sort of your brain being so tired that it just wants to shut down..
But suicide isn't a solution. Besides since I believe in after life I don't think it will make anyone feel better..

You're right about focusing on one's blessing. Being thankful and expressing gratitude can help. But there are times when it is really hard to do so. We just focus on our own hardships, what we lack, where we failed, and past hurtful experiences. I just find it really hard when this is the case to have control over this and it affects my behavior.

But maybe I am asking for something impossible, maybe there is a need to just feel this, and maybe the way out of it includes getting at the core of it?

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freebrainstorms
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posted April 19, 2013 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also, this exists: http://www.buzzfeed.com/babymantis/the-40-best-animal-cuddlers-of-all-time-1opu

(i'm not trying to diminish the topic thread, just to cheer people up)

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