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Lioness
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posted May 15, 2013 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An interesting article on pubic hair..
What do you think about it?

I assure you the article is in good taste.
http://freq.uenci.es/2011/10/14/disappearance/


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PixieJane
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posted May 15, 2013 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating, IMO. I really like getting at the psychology of things like this, and I believe that was done brilliantly here.

Unfortunately the page seems to be down at the moment so I can't call it back up to comment on anything specific. (But then I wasn't sure if I wanted to anyway.)

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posted May 15, 2013 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really liked the article..

Only I'm just not sure how to express it in words right now.. Lol

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posted May 15, 2013 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wowch. I've come across a couple of them before and asked them if it hurt, and they said **** YEAH! But that it was worth it lmfao! Hook up scene indeed. :hot: Some of my gurlfrands talk about waxing and none of them want to do it however...

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PixieJane
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posted May 16, 2013 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While I don't wish to detract from that article I thought it worth mentioning that femininity is generally looked down on, that looking like girls instead of women is in. I've generally seen this as a corporate scheme to make money, but I wonder how many of the observations made in that article couldn't be adapted to apply to other ways that girlhood is idolized and womanhood is demonized? (But at the same time girlhood is sexualized, but then that's part of how a lot of porn developed as well as they pushed themselves to become even edgier to gain an edge over the competition.)

As an example of how INSANE it is, Sabrina Bryan (shown dancing here) was called "fat" by many when this first aired:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxAKLWIQ47U

Seriously, how is that fat? Granted, she no longer looked like jail bait, but that SHOULD be a good thing!

In short, people find undeveloped girls more sexy than women, and plenty of females seek to emulate that as well, from waxing to being anorexic. (Not to say that the thin, androgynous form can't be sexy but that's typically not what's being pursued, they instead generally seek to emulate fragile china dolls who are both virginal and yet titillating & sexualized.)

But it can also be seen in a lot of fairy tales as well (which in turn shows up in a lot of Disney, even after diluted with sweetness and modern political correctness). It's rare for an older woman to be a good person as generally speaking any important female figures are either an innocent young girl destined to wind up with a man and often has a kind father yet (strangely!) wicked mother (and other evil female characters, it's very rare for a woman to be good otherwise unless she's virginal and about to be married).

Though oddly enough the Ancient Greeks favored curvy women (rather than anorexic girls as today) but also muscular men with boyish sexual organs (small & hairless). I heard an excellent explanation for why such men were favored once but sadly cannot recall it, yet I did find this that describes it (as for the women it was supposed to be because such curves represented wealth & healthy childhood which in turn promised fertility and extra eroticism, and I also suspect they wished to show inferior women as different from superior men, possibly even more animal-like or at least "with a specific purpose in mind" as sex toys & bearing children). Boyish sexual features (though otherwise masculine) remained favored in Western Civilization, though whether it's because they idolized the Greeks or for similar reasons as why pubic hair on women was discouraged isn't something I can guess at.

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posted May 17, 2013 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brazilian definitely increases sensation downstairs - so it's a good feeling.. but personally I couldn't be bothered doing this regularly.. *ouch*

I've always felt like the men I was with didn't really care either way, whether I wax, don't wax.. what not. They seemed happy either way.
I haven't been with any particularly picky virgo-types though haha

The cultural shift the article discusses - is interesting, but in a sense.. it's kind of insignificant to me, since I don't follow social trends much anyway.

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posted May 17, 2013 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
people find undeveloped girls more sexy than women

I don't know about the generalisation you got going there...

There are several famous sex symbols who are very much so *developed* women.

e.g.
Sophia Vergara:

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posted May 17, 2013 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Liv Tyler:

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Odette
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posted May 17, 2013 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Odette
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posted May 17, 2013 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Odette
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posted May 17, 2013 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nicky Minaj:

*edited*
large pic :\

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posted May 17, 2013 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many women will you find like that in Victoria's Secret? Or most porn (not counting implants)?

And there's a definite tendency that to be in a movie one has to lose weight. Margaret Cho said she was required to lose weight to play the role of HERSELF.

Granted, one can always find exceptions...and I've heard men who believe that the fashion industry chooses the beanpoles they do because they're gay men with a penchant for young boys (while I believe a different reason motivates the fashion industry it still shows that not all men buy into it).

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posted May 17, 2013 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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the thin, androgynous form

The two don't always go hand in hand.
One can be thin and non-androgynous..
They can also be overweight and androgynous.

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posted May 17, 2013 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How many women will you find like that in Victoria's Secret? Or most porn (not counting implants)?

Porn is FULL of them.
Are you kidding me?
Do you watch porn?

If we're talking models/supermodels.. of course there is an anorexic trend in place, as we all know. But I'm not so sure I would correlate that to what society as a whole finds sexually attractive - since, as per above - MANY women who are sex symbols.. do not have an 'anorexic' appearance.

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posted May 17, 2013 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please replace the pic of Nicky. The margins are broken on my computer because of it.

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Odette
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posted May 17, 2013 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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there's a definite tendency that to be in a movie one has to lose weight.

There is a wide variety of movies out there in different genres, and a wide variety of characters are played onscreen - some thin, some average, some overweight, some disfigured.. etc

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posted May 17, 2013 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for editing.

Maybe I'll comment later, and maybe I'll let it go...but I wanted to ask in the meantime, what do you think of BMI?

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posted May 17, 2013 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree 200% with the observations here. Pubic hair disappearing is actually horrible for women as it increases infections (there were recent news reports about it). The resemblance to prepubescent girls really raises the "ick" factor on this trend, to me. My boyfriend tells me bush is coming back [in porn]. Not sure if that's true or not but if it is, I welcome the change. I feel so fortunate to have a boyfriend who actually encouraged me to grow mine back and told me just to keep it slightly trimmed.

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posted May 17, 2013 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, a little story is in order:

A male stylist took a Brazilian Wax class to offer it to his clients and generate more money for his business.

When he started offering waxes to the public it was not women who would stop in for the service, but men who wanted their third eyes waxed.

He dropped offering the service after a week.

Funny old world with unintended outcomes.

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posted May 17, 2013 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love pubic hair!
My best friend has a bush or landing strip.. she's a Scorp. I know many girls who go hairless. It's disgusting... Full on naked vag view is gross to me. I'm gay so vaginas are already pretty odd to me so hairless ones are just too much!

Great article

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posted May 17, 2013 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cultural trends affect both "boys" and "girls":

...and that's the thing - mainly, it affects "influential/immature minds" - that can be easily manipulated by popularity trends. The advancement of psychology may have been beneficial in terms of mental illness - but was/it's also useful to "dirty minded adults" - as it shows the way our brain evolves and how influential it can be - starting with the early years of development till adulthood. And all this is done - trough our Ego ("superficial confidence" - as one would put it, which is obviously just temporary... and then comes "depression"). It's also true that - some wise up faster - thus "the outcasts".

Temporary cultural perspectives related to beauty based on popularity trends - it's what I would call "the dysfunctional side of beauty appraisal". And I'm referring mainly to trends that imply body mutilation. Both history and present time is full of such examples:

Wearing a Corset:

Chinese foot binding:

Neck rings:

Deep skin cutting rituals of Blackwater Sepik River:

Anorexia:

...to be continued


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posted May 17, 2013 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't mind traditional tribal practices. It's very much a part of their culture/religion. I like the fact there is a much stronger spiritual context for sex/love in a tribal setting.
I can't compare this to today's Western world, as I feel the emotion and spiritual back-bone is lacking.

Anorexia in models - yes we all know that. It's so highly publicised. I am not overly impressed or affected because there are so many horrible diseases out there, some chronic - some not... some lethal, some not... some preventable, some not..
We're not God so we can't singlehandedly change the world and wipe out all illness. People get ill psychologically. They get ill physically. They go through pain. They die. So do all other animals and living beings on the face of the planet.

Also, since I mentioned other animals - we are not the only animals to alter their physical appearance to increase their sexual attractiveness. But since we are more intellectually developed (which is both a blessing and a curse) we have taken this to new heights - with positive consequences: art, fashion, colour matching, variety of ways to express oneself-- and negative consequences: anorexia, bulimia, mutilation.

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posted May 17, 2013 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some of those memes don't make sense. Why compare business men and a bunch of HS boys clubbing?
I can find you a bunch of men hanging out in suits - at present .. easily.
I could also find out a gang of boys back in those times, from less educated/wealthy areas - who look worse than the boys clubbing.

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posted May 17, 2013 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if you barely grow pubic hair...
The only noticeable hair I have on my body is on my head face and legs.

This is shocking people Im italian and middle eastern which is probably THE most hairiest races...

LOL @ Nataliya Gotsiy; damn gurl.....
She was crazy gorgeous when she put on some weight!

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posted May 17, 2013 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I don't mind traditional tribal practices. It's very much a part of their culture/religion. I like the fact there is a much stronger spiritual context for sex/love in a tribal setting.
I can't compare this to today's Western world, as I feel the emotion and spiritual back-bone is lacking.

I won't judge your tastes. If you're fond of cultural oppression that's your business but what you call "fact" - it's actually just an opinion based on your personal tastes, which is more like the opposite of what one would call "a fact".

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Some of those memes don't make sense. Why compare business men and a bunch of HS boys clubbing?
I can find you a bunch of men hanging out in suits - at present .. easily.
I could also find out a gang of boys back in those times, from less educated/wealthy areas - who look worse than the boys clubbing.

What business men? Check again - you missed some self-explanatory details.^^ That's a scene from some movie - which portraits "the Bad boys" from the old days. It's a meme - it's meant to be silly and a bit extreme in terms of comparison and it fits quite well with the discussions from this topic.


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The way I see it - it used to be worst when beauty appraisal was part of a dysfunctional tradition - conditioned by weak-minded adults and their dysfunctional tribal standards. But, times changed... most of those traditions became obsolete - yet, still - even now... we have all kinds of dysfunctional trends that imply body mutilation and unhealthy habits "in the name of beauty"... all that - till you wise-up and notice the true essence of beauty. And maybe not for the first time - but it's something we've forgotten.

When it comes to one person, it's that kind of beauty which fits the quote "beauty is the eyes of the beholder"... the kind of beauty that can rival any superficial beauty (any celebrity, miss universe...) and win in your eyes - cause yours eyes can see what others can not... Might not even be what you used to call "your type" - and that's when you finally understand the true nature of beauty (which is not exterior as you were lead to believe) - a beauty that fills your hearth with warmth and numbs your brain of all its prejudice. And only then... only at that point - you can see the real beauty in others.

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