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Kerosene
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posted July 03, 2013 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We both work together and have lunch at the same time so we decided to causally have lunch together at this cafe, it was pretty normal..
Or so that's what I thought…

At the end, she thought I was going to pay for her lunch...
I was confused so I said something like oh uh you can pay me back tomorrow? etc.
I think I sounded kinda annoyed, but whatever.
She was like Uhhh why would I do that?…
I thought she was joking so I awkwardly laughed.
It randomly escalated, she than said this was the "worst" date ever.. and just got up and stormed off…….

I payed for the meal and ran after her and tried to explain this was NOT a date, we were hanging out and having lunch togther…

She got really offended and was like. This was totally a date, you asked me out, you're just broke etc…..

I was like we weren't even flirting.. and I am broke, and you ordered an expensive meal too.. you need to pay me back some time… she just walked off.

I honestly think she pulled a fast one on me, so she can a free meal out of me… wtf.
If she was struggling why did she order an expensive meal, what a greedy person....
I order like some tea and a some finger sandwiches. -_-..

The thing is I was not even flirting with her… nor was I even interested in her. We only talked in group situations.

I don't even care about the money, I'll just consider it a charity.

She'll probably go around telling people I'm a cheap ******* ,

I swear this city is full of psychotic people...

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Ami Anne
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posted July 03, 2013 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is terrible. I had a similar thing with someone who bought several services with me with an e check. She had a story( and maybe it was true) that she as in the hospital with a bad disease. Anyway, after I did the services, she cancelled the e checks.

I wrote her back and said that I don't need the money but I would not want to be her with what you sow you reap.

It is not totally the same as this seems like it will be a hardship on you, but it is the same that there are some really, really jerky people with no morals and you get a little hardened dealing with them, but maybe it is just reality.

At any rate, I am sorry you went through this. It sounds worse than what I went through

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Kerosene
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posted July 03, 2013 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that's horrible.
I'm sorry that happened to you..

You provided her with a service...
I would of been more angry, I provide a service too...
People are so cheap..

I paint portraits of people, so sometimes I come across someone who wants to weasel their way out of paying the money we decided.
They don't understand the supplies are expensive too.
The thing is I don't mind keeping my work LMAOO.

I hate people like that, I get really disgusted when people don't tip waiters/hairstylists/cab drivers either.. unless the service was bad... I guess..

I'm not angry, but just really confused....

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Ami Anne
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posted July 03, 2013 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, this girl is gonna bring bad stuff down on her and I would not want to be her.

Same with that girl but you have to SEE her

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Kerosene
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posted July 03, 2013 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should just give a free summary for free and they have to pay to see the whole thing.

If they're really unhappy with it for some reason and it's in your conscious or whatever you can return them the money

Honestly, you don't have to either!

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jellyfishtry
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posted July 03, 2013 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jellyfishtry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where is this Kerosene? and are there any mental asylums nearby, u can recommend her to check out?

on the other hand i did once pay the (expensive) rent 4 someone,and even let them stay with me for a while....then when i was in a bit of a sticky situation and asked if i can spend the night...they basically said no using 3000 words/excuses.

wasn't too angry, i had earlier concluded that ppl are selfish and disappointing, just let this be a reminder for you to always stick up 4 ur own self and not feel to guilty about it

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Kerosene
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posted July 03, 2013 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
City of ANGELS heh
Plenty of rehabs..

I'm just annoyed I have to see her tomorrow... since we work together..

That completely blows.
I honestly don't understand why people are assholes to those that helped you out..

I let this kid live with me because he mom kicked him out and you know what he did.. As soon as his cracked out mom let him come back he started spreading rumors that got me into a fight.
I got 3 months of community service because I won the fight... That "friend" got everyone to say I started it.
Best senior year ever lol..

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jellyfishtry
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posted July 03, 2013 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jellyfishtry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol, all my or the majority of my US friends are Hawaiians who were born in orange county, but won't go back for a while now, some real WTF stories about LA from ALL of them lol... so i get u.

just say hello,how r u? to this nutcase 2moro and ignore her coz if she pleases 'u r trying to work' then ignore her as she tries to push your buttons,even if she secretly succeeds.

dnt know about ppl,maybe we r meant to be superb diplomats one day and this is all training us 4 that...special day lol

ps(am proud of you for winning lol)

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Ami Anne
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posted July 03, 2013 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
City of [b]ANGELS heh
Plenty of rehabs..

I'm just annoyed I have to see her tomorrow... since we work together..

That completely blows.
I honestly don't understand why people are assholes to those that helped you out..

I let this kid live with me because he mom kicked him out and you know what he did.. As soon as his cracked out mom let him come back he started spreading rumors that got me into a fight.
I got 3 months of community service because I won the fight... That "friend" got everyone to say I started it.
Best senior year ever lol..[/B]


It is true about helping some people. Most people on the judge shows were people someone helped and now they are suing them.

I do help out when God leads me but only then, and so far I have been OK, but I am careful lol

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Hera
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posted July 03, 2013 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe she did think it was a date? I mean, you may say you didn't flirt with her, but are you sure she didn't read too much into whatever contact you had? If that were the case, she should be quite angry/ashamed that you blew her off, hence not wanting to pay you for the meal.

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Kerosene
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posted July 03, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't control what people want to think...

Besides it's against policy for interns to date, and we were on shift together.
That was not a date, it consisted of us eating chatting about work while we were both texting...

You can be attracted to someone, but that does not mean just because that person is nice, you can just assume they want you back...

That's honestly her own fault for coming that conclusion..

Just because I am male I have to pay for some girl that I'm not even interested in...
That's so sexist.
If she was short on cash, she could of asked me.
It's not a big deal, I do it all the time.

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Hera
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posted July 03, 2013 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But if it were you?.. How would you feel?

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Kerosene
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posted July 03, 2013 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I date men too... So I've been in her "postion".
I could be exactly like her, expect guys to pay for me...

Honestly I tend to casually date feminist girls, so they always insist on splitting it.

I'm usually direct on my intentions.
If I like someone I'll let it be known.

I can't really feel bad for people who throw out mixed signals, nor do I have time for that.

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Kerosene
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posted July 03, 2013 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also I don't follow gender roles

I don't want to be a provider and I don't want to be provided for.

I'm attracted to people that are self sufficient.
A girl wanting to pay for her own meal is attractive quality for me.

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Hera
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posted July 03, 2013 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm I guess you're too airy to be empathetic.

I was trying to get you to look at the situation from her perspective. Since you asked what is up with this person.. But all you keep saying is you prefer this, you admire that, you don't like girls who.. etc.

Understanding those who annoy us is a good exercise.

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Stawr
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posted July 03, 2013 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She sounds immature.

That sucks that she read more into it. Can't co workers "be social" and get lunch together with out it being "romantic"?

I can see her being lead on is if you asked her to lunch. But even friends ask their friends to lunch, and don't expect the friend who asked to pay.

But yeah when I'm on a new date I never assume the guy is going to pay...even if he asked me out.

"worst date ever"?!...ha! that's nothing! Being a Venus Pisces the "learned" Venus sign of the zodiac I got some real date horror stories....

Try a guy wanting to go out with you and expecting you to pay...EVERY TIME! And checking out the waitresses...saying things like "her butt looks good in that" And when I get the tip also...he tells you to tip more with YOUR DOLLARS. And leaving it on the table isn't enough...they want to walk up to the waitress and hand it to her and go "here...here you go..."

Or one day saying that you will get the tab, and then they expect you to get the tab every time after that...and looking away every time the check comes.

Or a guy saying that they will pay on the date...you drive all the way out there, cause you're the only one with the car...you are STARVING and when you go the a coney type restaurant and then he says "money is tight mind if we just split some fried pickles?"

I have never flipped out on any of these "men" but I wont forget. But sometimes the next time I will state from the very beginning "if I go to lunch with you we need to go dutch, is that okay?"

So if a guy wants to go dutch, after what I've been though...I'm thinking THANK GOD!!!

But of course I love to be treated by my guy and am thinking wow I'm finally with a good guy...!!!
And I treat him sometimes, and I never have to worry about him expecting me to always get him after that.

But if I was that girl, even if I assumed you were paying and found out you weren't I would just try to play it off and try to act like I never assumed that. haha
"why would I do that?..." wow what a snot!
I feel now of days it's not attractive to assume a guy is going to take care of you.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 03, 2013 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Checking out the waitress

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Kerosene
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posted July 03, 2013 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I think it's one thing treating your girlfriend or boyfriend out.
That's just because you want to do nice things for them..

I hang out with girls all the time, I think most of them are observent enough to realize this guy is acting like one of their girlfriends.. LOL.
I friend zone people I'm not interested in..
Guys can do it too

I think stawr had it right, she's just probably immature.

Anyways I grew up in a house full of women.
It was pretty much a matriarchy.
Since my grandmother and mom were air signs.
They were the providers and dominated their men. LOL

So for me gender roles are not that important.

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posted July 03, 2013 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all - clearly this was not a date. I think she is either lying or delusional.

Secondly - Even if she genuinely thought it was a date - she should have paid or at least offered to pay. Most women (even the ones who are very traditional would still OFFER to pay, on a romantic date. Of course, they would expect the guy to decline the offer - and pay himself... but they would still "offer" out of politeness... This is what makes me pretty confident that she was blatantly lying)

You are definitely not responsible for the way she behaved. I completely understand what you are saying about gender roles etc. Its pretty uncommon for someone in their 20s this day and age - to make such a fuss about the guy paying, specially under the circumstances. It's completely odd.

My advice is to put strong emphasis on being "just friends" whenever you speak to her or about her.
Say things like "she seems nice as a friend." "I like you as a friend". "We were just hanging out as friends."
Maybe even add that you have a gf or that you are in love with someone else. Be extremely polite and nice to her and about her.

Do not say anything like "I simply am not interested in you. This was not a date and I want my money back."

However tempting it is to do that .. you will look like the bad guy and may end up losing this job over the whole thing - depending on how dramatic she is.

If you do care about this job - you have to be diplomatic. Forget about the money. Avoid her from now on and don't ever hang out with her. But socially don't say anything negative about her.

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posted July 03, 2013 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the job is not so important for you - then you can be completely honest and do/say whatever you like

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posted July 03, 2013 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DP my phone is being werd :/

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hannaramaa
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posted July 03, 2013 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Try a guy wanting to go out with you and expecting you to pay...EVERY TIME! And checking out the waitresses...saying things like "her butt looks good in that" And when I get the tip also...he tells you to tip more with YOUR DOLLARS. And leaving it on the table isn't enough...they want to walk up to the waitress and hand it to her and go "here...here you go..."" << Why did this happen multiple times? LOL!

Secondly, Kerosene, aren't you a Gemini? She sounds crazy as hell but maybe she mistook you friendliness for flirting. I'm a Gemini ASC, so I understand *pat pat on the shoulder*. Lol. Really though... you sure know how to pick 'em. You can bring the receipt to work and maybe write it off as a business expense? Steal from her? Like take a picture with her little dog and make a wise crack about filet mignot. Or something.

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Kerosene
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posted July 03, 2013 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats a good idea Odette.
I really just don't want her to go around telling people I'm an ass or a player, that's even more annoying.

I won't ask for anything back.
I'll just explain to her I have feelings for someone else and just apologize if she got the wrong idea...

I think she is delusional, and possibly mentally ill for the way it went down... There was no reason to even react that way..
Maybe she's bipolar. I'd rather not mess her..

I'll see what happens tomorrow, maybe she felt embarrassed...

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posted July 03, 2013 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
"Try a guy wanting to go out with you and expecting you to pay...EVERY TIME! And checking out the waitresses...saying things like "her butt looks good in that" And when I get the tip also...he tells you to tip more with YOUR DOLLARS. And leaving it on the table isn't enough...they want to walk up to the waitress and hand it to her and go "here...here you go..."" << Why did this happen multiple times? LOL!

Secondly, Kerosene, aren't you a Gemini? She sounds crazy as hell but maybe she mistook you friendliness for flirting. I'm a Gemini ASC, so I understand *pat pat on the shoulder*. Lol. Really though... you sure know how to pick 'em. You can bring the receipt to work and maybe write it off as a business expense? Steal from her? Like take a picture with her little dog and make a wise crack about filet mignot. Or something.


I am really friendly and personable with everyone so maybe people mistake that for flirtation. I can't do anything about that.

although I'm pretty careful around girls I don't know that well.. LOL...
I don't tease them or lay a finger on them etc.

Especially at work... You can't be extra friendly with your co workers.

Sometimes I just say Im gay but idk if I ever date a girl and they find out for whatever reason, it gets awkward. So i try not to bring my personal life.
Also discrimination is not something I feel like dealing with.

I try not to lie because I never follow through with them... LOL.

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posted July 03, 2013 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How long have you worked with her?

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