posted August 10, 2013 02:07 PM            

Do you know that many dictators throughout history such as Hitler, Lenin and Castro started with the dream of Utopia. Inside each man's heart is the dream of Utopia. That is why it feels so possible. That is how a dictator can ride the coat tails of this dream to ultimate power, upon which the dream dies the death of most childhood dreams. Yet, people who refuse to learn from history ( and idealistic young people) try again and again to make it work--ONE last time.

When I was a child, I was an avid reader. I would read one book a day. I read Animal Farm and 1984 by Orwell when I was 13. I never forgot their message which is the one I have stated above. The message is that Utopia cannot exist.

When I was in college studying Psychology, I remembered one movie the same way I remembered these books. It was "The Milgrim Experiement".

Stanley Milgrim wanted to know how "Good Germans" could get to the point of killing their fellow citizens. What was the root of what we see as societal insanity.

Milgrim came to a startling conclusion and an unexpected one. However, is it really unexpected? Milgrims conclusion are that men are sheep. They will follow authority.

Orwell tells is that when the pigs got into positions of authority, the rules changed from all pigs are equal to some pigs are more equal than others. This last prescient line is the mechanism that takes a dictator from a freedom fighter to an absolute and ruthless potentate. In this one line from a simple allegory about pigs, horses and farmers lies the answer to the human's dreams of Utopia.

A lovely LL member, Kerosene , asked me why can't there be a Utopia. He is young and this is the question of youth. The terrible thing is when older people spout platitudes about the Aquarian Age as if they are seers or more enlightened souls than the common man, when they are actually the horses in Animal Farm. Perhaps, they are not the horses in Animal Farm, as the horses were good souls. These self righteous people are actually the soil in which dictatorship rises because they won't face my next subject, which is the reality of human nature.

I am a student of the Bible for anyone who does not know. I am a student of Bible Prophecy. Human nature is clearly explained in the Bible. Human nature is as Orwell saw it.Human nature is as Milgrim saw it. Human nature is really as the Bible saw it, which is that men are likened to sheep. Human nature, unchecked, will lead to 1984. Human nature, if left to it's own devices, will follow the simple course set forth in Animal Farm. The reason that Utopia cannot exist is because it has humans in it.

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posted March 30, 2014 02:04 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
my parents moved our family out of communism in cuba, we were able to escape it but we worry all the time it might happen to the US, especially as people grow more and more certain it couldn't happen to the US and take more and more free aid from the government

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If you and your family knew the history of Cuba, and also where similar Communism happened, you'd know it wasn't people wanting free aid from the government. And by "wanting free aid" I suppose you mean "poor people" rather than the corporations that get a lot of free aid, too. For something similar to happen in the US in the next couple of decades or so then the corruption would have to get a lot worse than it is with more people who feel entitled (though willing to work for it) to a middle class lifestyle denied it.

And in the US we are much more likely to have a right wing tyranny to a left wing one in response. Think Pinochet instead of Castro (though perhaps ironically I could see it working out real similar to Communist Romania with a Christian right wing paint job)...though a Castro could arise with popular support in response to the US Pinochet (just as Castro rose to power and popularity in response to the extreme abuses by Batista, though he was also a symbol of independence from countries like the US trying to exploit them as opposed to "wanting to give free stuff to shiftless welfare queens"), though even then he'd need to play down anything sounding like Communism due to generations of extreme Cold War propaganda that has left its mark on the American psyche. Another reason Communism was often popular is that it was seen as a form of independence from colonial powers yet that could not be a factor for the United States as it was from Cuba to Vietnam (yet at the same time they received heavy aid from the Soviet Union whereas the US is not dependent on any such aid so that could not be a factor here either).

Here in the US the term "liberal" means leftist (unlike many other countries where liberal is often a right wing designation) but is actually applied mostly to right wing moderates. Granted, it's all relative depending on what you're using for comparisons but the point is when even moderate right wingers (in comparison to the rest of Western civilization) are called leftists then a Communist revolution as happened in Russia and Cuba can't gain the popularity those revolutions did (and more is needed, people who hold revolutions are typically bottom of the barrel desperate, not just because they happened to be annoyed at the moment). In addition, we don't have a Batista, epic poverty & hopelessness, colonial powers oppressing us, or getting military aid from a Communist country, all of which means the forces that shaped Cuba are not forces that are shaping the US.

posted March 30, 2014 02:24 AM            

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Let me say immediately that these two attitudes — toward life, toward society, and toward culture — Utopia and Escape — of course existed before. We find them present in almost any society or any culture. There are always those who, being obsessed with one particular vision and being fanatically loyal to that vision, cut themselves off from the mainstream of culture. There are also, always, in every culture and every society, those who can be called the dropouts, those who for various reasons are trying to escape from the pressures of their society. What I think is new is that today this Utopia, on the one hand, and this Escape on the other hand, are no longer marginal phenomena.

We always had religion and sects and cults. In the Christian religion, in the history of the Church, we find that every century brings its own utopians and also its own escapees. For instance, in the second century, we find those Montanists. And yet these are precisely marginal phenomena. What I think is typical of our age, of the contemporary world, is that those two realities, attitudes, stands, experiences, —"Utopia," and "Escape," have become no longer marginal. They are inside. They are the moving forces of our society itself. I do not mean to say that every gas station attendant is either a utopian or an escapee; and yet the culture itself moves by those two identifications.

Now, what do I mean by Utopia? First of all, Utopia is a kind of a maximalistic projection towards the future. It is a promise, or an idea, that history as a whole, and human existence as personal destiny, moves towards perfection and fulfillment, towards an eminent — not only eminent, but also an imminent, victory over all kinds of dangers and deficiencies. We can see, for example, the political appeal of Utopia, not even speaking of such utopias as the Marxist utopia. (Now, the power of Marxism over human minds is in itself a paradox, something absolutely amazing! Why is it that this theory, which so far has never proven itself to be right in any detail or wholesale, why does it keep its power? To abandon the Marxist vision of time, of history, is a tremendous kind of "crucifixion" for some people.) But even if we disregard those utopias, like Marxism, which is not the fate of this country, we will find this utopian coefficient even in the political culture of our society today. It is not an accident that every four years during a new presidential election, there must be a vision like The Great Society, or A New Frontier... There is always something that is great, decisive, final, and built in to that vision is the faith that we are confident and capable of doing something radical.

No, the history of the world does not encourage us to think that way. All of the Napoleons failed and all their dreams ended on a great variety of St. Helens . . . And yet today this faith is essential. No politician would come and say, "We know that we are poor, limited, fallible human beings. We are living in darkness, we will try to do our best, but of course not much can be done..." Such a man would not go very far. He must have a kind of utopian charisma. He must lead us to what the French Marxist poet Arangon terms, "Les lendemains qui chantent" — "The tomorrows that sing," "Tomorrow must sing." Why must tomorrow sing? People will die; the cemeteries will grow, and so on. Politics today is fed by, if not necessarily lies, then, at least, utopian messages.

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posted March 30, 2014 03:49 AM            

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Why There Will Never Be Utopia?

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Because people expect that to be something that takes place in the material world.

posted March 30, 2014 04:01 AM            

What baffles me is that people don't realize christianism/-ity is a form of dictatorship. And all religions are, actually, utopic. Hence, they should not exist!

posted April 16, 2014 06:46 AM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
Thanks for the Explanation Ami!
Loved it!

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Thank you, Rajji. You and I are buds from waaay back

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posted April 16, 2014 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
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What baffles me is that people don't realize christianism/-ity is a form of dictatorship. And all religions are, actually, utopic. Hence, they should not exist!

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posted April 16, 2014 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
Thanks for the Explanation Ami!
Loved it!

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How have you been, My Friend. Catch me up, if you would like!
What happened with the guy I did the synastry for?

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posted April 16, 2014 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
God (the source of all things, love or whatever feels more comfortable to you - as that's less important) - shouldn't have a Ego. That would go against what it means to be "the God" - it's simply not fitting for descriptions such as: omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, omniscient and so on. But the Christian God as depicted by Christians and the bible - has an Ego, a human Ego that is - and very insecure i might add. Just read the Bible: WORSHIP ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME... OR YOU'LL SUFFER MY WRATH! Extreme Jealousy, Apocalyptic Anger issues, Favoritism, Cruelty beyond measures - it's all in there as defining characteristics for the Christian God (as if it's a Dictator or a mad King). That's like - the basics of marketing psychology - on how to manipulate people into buying a product, as in: advertise it as often as possible - till people start believing in it. That's the first thing i noticed about the bible - God is advertised kinda like a Dictator (but with extra emphasis on fear - on his vengeful nature). Dictatorship - was (and still is in Countries like North Korea) forced upon its people both by those higher in positions to the dictator and the indoctrinated masses who in turn indoctrinated their children in that type of lifestyle. In a somehow similar way, religions were also forced through traditional habits - where the parents felt obligated to manipulate their children believes in a doctrine - same as they were manipulated by their parents (though - neither were aware that what their doing - implies mind-bending manipulations).

If it wasn't for this traditional habit - there wouldn't be no religions like Christianity today (since the ones that self-indoctrinated themselves later - are represented by a very small minority). My parents are still followers of this doctrine (so yeas - i was baptized as a Christian as well), since it's a tradition accepted by the indoctrinated masses from this parts (and same goes for other parts of the world where Christianity is wildly spread) - so, it goes hand in hand with their understanding of normality (of what it means to be normal). I'm the only one in my family who renounced Christianity - which apparently, makes me abnormal/crazy in their eyes (the odd one out). I don't mind that - though, i even see it as a compliment. I didn't change my religion or follow other religions, though - i took wisdom from all through an eclectic approach. That being said - I'm not an atheist, i do believe in God - but i prefer not to say what i mean by that right now. I will say this though - you all know this answer, you're just looking for it (God - if you will) - in the wrong place (outside). You can find God inside yourselves or if you're like me - you'd see it first in others (though - they won't, it's the way it goes - i guess).

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posted April 16, 2014 07:44 PM            

In the Zohar, which is an ancient document related to Kabbalah, we read this quote:

Truly the subject of marriage must be of the greatest anxiety to the Holy One. Blessed is the lot of Israel who enjoys the secret doctrine that teaches them His Holy Way, as also the secrets and mysteries attending them. It is written, the Law of the Lord is perfect converting the soul. Blessed is he who studies in it (marriage) and rules his life thereby, for then he acquires length of days and learns the secret of life.

All of this is embodied in the sacrament of matrimony.

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posted April 16, 2014 08:44 PM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
twin flames are not meant to be together.

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Was it you? We did a huge thread.

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posted April 16, 2014 09:16 PM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
Not that I remember ami.
Im sure..I never put a synastry chart here.

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There was a Rajiin and I though you were she. xx

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