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Randall
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posted August 24, 2013 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What exactly does that saying mean? From my own experience, I know that when I help someone, something bad seems to happen to me. For example, I jump off a little old lady's car, and then I have to be jumped off a few days later. I change someone's tire, and I get a flat myself. It's not always so mirrored. I paid to fix my mom's car ac and went there to ensure it was done properly, and then I drop my pristine iPhone hard on the pavement (never dropped once since new and in over a year). Today, I was helping someone unselfishly, and LL was experiencing problems that I could have fixed in about 30 seconds had I been home. Do we absorb people's bad Karma when we try to assist them, or what? Is that what the saying in the subject heading means?

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posted August 24, 2013 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That kind of coinci-dance doesn't happen to me. Sometimes I pay for it and sometimes I'm rewarded for it (and I think most of the time it doesn't matter for me one way or the other, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes?).

What you're describing is a type of synchronicity, and the first thing that comes to mind is that you empathize with the people in a way that makes you visualize being them, and perhaps you're one of those people who has a way of making things happen by imagining them very hard. That is, you give an old lady a jump and at some level you imagine yourself being in her place and then a few days later that imagining comes true. Besides, I have a hard time seeing someone needing a jump as having "bad karma" (other than "natural consequences" needing no mystical interpretation).

Understand, I'm really not a big fan of "you make everything happen to you" as it's a very slippery slope of blaming the victim and not everything comes from within, there are many other wills out there beside your own and they get a say in what happens to you as well. However, I do recall an experiment I did when I was 17 that made me think magic was more than positive thinking. Long story short (and I forget some details) I adapted an experiment from a Robert Anton Wilson book (I think Quantum Psychology) to say I'd find dimes instead of pennies and I did, for example I found 3 dimes while walking about 10 blocks (unfortunately for me experiments like this turn out really impressive for me at first but can't be repeated...but then creativity & originality seems to be how my own personal magic works). That (and similar experiments while running with Discordians) allows me to believe in synchronicity that can be guided by things like visualization and actions that "echo" in unexpected ways.

Btw, I knew someone who kept imagining herself poor and in debt, and always was, so she tried a spell to get money and it worked...but right after her cat got mauled and had to be sewed together which meant she broke even. She then tried an experiment to combat the image of herself as poor and the next time the spell worked much better (including retroactive pay for several months, IIRC) AND she got to keep the bonus and has generally done better financially since then.

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posted August 24, 2013 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The much shorter version of what I just posted is that perhaps you should be careful how you empathize with people you help, that is make an important note to yourself that this is them you're helping, not you who needs the help, and maybe the unpleasant synchronicity won't happen.

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posted August 24, 2013 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking of weird synchronicity...you posted this about the same time I was posting here...
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/004331.html

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posted August 24, 2013 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
PixieJane: The much shorter version of what I just posted...

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posted August 24, 2013 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never heard of this, Randall.

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posted August 24, 2013 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me it's the "when it rains it pours" theme but unrelated to helping others.
A crapload of stuff happens or virtually nothing.
I deal though. I've taken all of life's curve-balls so far and been running bases.
I don't even watch baseball! lol

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posted August 24, 2013 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it rains, I always leave home without my umbrella.

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posted August 24, 2013 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just read about something like this on another board. Weird. Did you post about this on another board, yesterday?

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posted August 24, 2013 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope; nor did I read it on another board.

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posted August 24, 2013 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was on a private board. I think this poster is a woman, but she's new. She had trouble with her car, after giving money to a man down on his luck; gave money to a basketball team, only to hear from her son that he'd sprained his ankle; gave to a dog rescue group, and the following week, a sibling's dog died; donated in a store, for a boy with a brain injury, and an hour later, her father died from a brain injury. She says she's heartbroken and petrified to donate to charity again.

Talk about synchronicity! Not just with that, but with the posts, within a couple of days of each other.

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posted August 25, 2013 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I find is that.. sometimes when we leave our own path in life - and try very hard to help with a situation or help a particular person (doing a good deed!)... it's not always what we were supposed to do.
It's like - instead of going along your karmic path - you decided to take a detour (free will) - and even though perhaps you had signs that you shouldn't be taking the detour... you still did because you really wanted to do that good deed.. you thought it was important.

I find it strange because ^ even though that good deed may indeed be good.. and maybe one person or many benefited from it - it might just not be what you were supposed to be doing.

It might be better to only help people when you are specifically asked for help... rather than go out of your way to take a detour and do a good deed (that was not in your path).

I think the detour-style good deeds end up "punished".

Sometimes I think it's related to the Nodes. For instance I have Scorpio SN conj Pluto and Taurus NN conj Venus.
The Scorpio side of me is a good psychologist - so I am inclined to go out of my way and help people on that level... but it's not really my karma in this life to focus so much on other people.
It's more so my karma to focus on personal things - since Taurus is a personal sign.
So even though I might be doing good deeds.. I could see why destiny someones jolts me to say: "Hello!! You have a Taurus NN!!! These people's psychological dramas are not really your problem or your business"

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posted August 25, 2013 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I paid to fix my mom's car ac and went there to ensure it was done properly, and then I drop my pristine iPhone hard on the pavement (never dropped once since new and in over a year)

This might be different. I'm not sure why it happened in this particular situation. Did your mum ask you to pay for the AC?
Was there someone else who could've paid for it perhaps?
This seems like a situation that would be - 'in your way'... 'on your path', so to speak - since this is your mother, so it's normal for you to offer to pay...

So maybe this situation does not fit in with my theory.

But in my life... I have only had bad luck.. in a situation where I went literally -out of my way- to help... when I had clear signs that I just shouldn't go there.

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Today, I was helping someone unselfishly,

I know this may sound like a negative thing to say - but I'm just not sure that we're supposed to help people unselfishly.
I think the best thing is to help other people when you *can* and when that situation or person seems -meant for you-.

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posted August 25, 2013 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoRainNoRainbows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It is true, you do absorb the luck of people you come in contact with, though usually this is more prominent when you touch them. even a pat on the shoulder or a kiss on the cheek is enough. that is also the real reason people should choose their partners wisely, as it is the most prominent case where people change karma (partners start thinking they are meant to be bcoz there is thought exchange without words,but that is the real reason for it.)

on the other hand some people can change the luck of a whole place (and not always to the better) just by being there.

Thoughts are electromagnetic energy. You are being receptive....you saw someone who needs help and was receptive to that energy, and probably all what subtly came along with it.

They needed help and were thinking of there trouble and where in the universe to get it fixed....they were projecting these vibes, and kind of 'unloaded' them on you.

you just need more energetic protection into your life: meditations like IQ's violet protection one, swimming in the ocean, the correct positive affirmations, more importantly awareness of the energies around u and protecting yourself before helping others when it is too much.

hope this helped.

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posted August 25, 2013 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This has happened to me, but in the form of gratitude.

"I'm so glad that Rita didn't lose her sight in both eyes." A few days later - she lost the sight in her other eye. (Three years ago.)

"Thank goodness we've never had to deal with Parvo." Three days later, a disease similar to parvo, affects our dogs.

"I live for my animals and family. They are the best part of my life." Cue a rash of deaths in both, and my family crumbling.

And so on. Doesn't exactly help with a positive attitude.

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posted August 25, 2013 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In cases where you are overrunning "boundaries", you are perhaps helping in one instance, but harming the recipient by seeing them as helpless? So you may bring upon yourself what you TOOK upon yourself.

In the case of your phone, Randall I would guess that you were being just a little controlling hovering over the guys whose job it is to do the job lol. So instead of minding your own business you were interfering with theirs..and yours (your phone) escaped your grasp.

If you had reason to suspect they would bungle the job you maybe need different techs, if not, you're paying them, so let them earn it?

And in saying "at least it wasn't leprosy" , teas, you are visualizing leprosy(paraphrase). And so you will get your manifestation.

IF you believe in the power of thought! There's the rub..plenty of people who are completely unaware or unbelieving in the power of thoughts will go on their merry way a long time before something like a brick wall stops them "trespassing" or "wishing for" something they fear.

So the rapid appearance of these events sounds to me like very powerful people getting a little lesson in "careful what you wish for" being not just what you THINK you wish for...??

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posted August 25, 2013 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a manifestation coach who gave the affirmation "There is nothing around me but money, money money"

This scares the bejeezus out of me! Where did my family, pets, life disappear to and what am I going to do with this pile of money? I can't even get out of it to spend some!

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posted August 25, 2013 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

sometimes...

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posted August 25, 2013 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruitTreeFresh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't buy into this. But I can't be sure that bad guys who did bad deeds couldn't go away scot free.

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posted August 25, 2013 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whenever I feel I am supposed to give money to someone( and I only follow God's lead not do it on my own) I will get 3 times back what I gave and usually within a few days to a week.
It has never failed yet.


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posted August 25, 2013 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats a new one for me to read, thats pretty crappy that you went out of your way to help these people only to be kicked down by karma. Should be rewarded instead, so I dont understand why that happened. With me anything I do whether good or bad seems to come back at me the same way, and rather quick to, my karma is very quick.

Mabe your energy is vunerable to other peoples karma, and some how it gets played out through you as well. I agree with the other person who mentioned protection for your energy, so its not invaded.

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posted August 25, 2013 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oscar Wilde actually coined the phrase.

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posted August 25, 2013 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

by Franklin P. Adams

There was a man in our town who had King Midas’ touch;
He gave away his millions to the colleges and such;
And people cried: “The hypocrite! He ought to understand
The ones who really need him are the children of this land!”

When Andrew Croesus built a home for children who were sick,
The people said they rather thought he did it as a trick,
And writers said: “He thinks about the drooping girls and boys,
But what about conditions with the men whom he employs?”

There was a man in our town who said that he would share
His profits with his laborers, for that was only fair,
And people said: “Oh, isn’t he the shrewd and foxy gent?
It cost him next to nothing for that free advertisement!”

There was a man in our town who had the perfect plan
To do away with poverty and other ills of man,
But he feared the public jeering, and the folks who would defame him,
So he never told the plan he had, and I can hardly blame him.

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posted August 25, 2013 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never noticed this, nor would I think of it in that way.

Sounds like lessons in learning how o give and also receive help.

Or maybe you are simply balancing out karma.

Maybe the "bad" things that happen to you are there for you to find the silver lining in and to realize they are not as bad as they seem.

It could just be the circle of 'good deeds' at play. You help someone, someone helps you and on it goes. To remind that sometimes you are there to give help and sometimes you need to receive it yourself. That we are all interconnected.

I'd be careful about thinking that every time you do something nice, bad is going to follow it. If you think that way, that's what you will experience.

Good and bad are going to happen to you regardless of what you do. It's called life.

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posted August 25, 2013 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are only doing good things to experience more good things for yourself or thinking it will keep the bad at bay, then that is selfish. If the giving is not really from your heart or without thinking of what you will get in return, then bad might follow.

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