posted October 03, 2013 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by hippichick:
whatever

I still love and respect you, Lexx

no angsts here.

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posted October 03, 2013 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by hippichick:
Your "real name"

Come on...

Hon..

I love you and all that you stand for, but I love me too!

Yea, I agree, close this thread.

Sorry, Ami

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posted October 03, 2013 07:28 PM            

re~reading.

Lexx I did nothing to you.

And I am so, so sad it has to end this way.

I dont know what you are upset about, doesnt matter...I am not going out with agnst.

Peace and love and light

posted October 03, 2013 07:30 PM            

bye, bye all that cant face themselves...

posted October 05, 2013 10:07 PM            

Somebody used to be "Fayte" just a writers play off of that.

sorry for all...

Leave you alone..

Of course!

I never meant you any harm anyway.

too much **** goin on in my life now to give so much energy to paultry crap.

posted October 05, 2013 10:15 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
What do you mean, all others? There are literally two other people who commented: me and Kerosene. Wtf if you want to say something, come out and say it.

And you're doing that thing again where you exclude others because they don't react the same as you. I've seen you do it before. "You haven't experienced like I have so you don't know what it's like." Ugh, please stop???? You think others haven't experienced death???? Or seen someone die? Walked in on a dead family member?

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Of course, I respect this, but in my job, I see it, feel it everyday.

And I feel blessed to be with family and the ones passing to do so, to be a part of such a profound experience.

But, thank you for your comment and thank you for letting me reply.

posted October 05, 2013 11:02 PM            

I was not saying "all others" here on LL, but all others in genreal.

There are a mighty amount of folks out there who have not experienced death, personally, or avoid it.

Again, I experience it 36 hours a week, and yes, I have experienced my own family's

Try having your husband shoot himself in the head.

And being there for the aftermath.

And this is why I said what I did.

Was not meant to a diss to anybody and I apoligize IF I came off that way.

My 21 year old faces death everyday...born with a severe heart defect, another major heart surgery soon...yea...."death" is always around me...lingering.

Perhaps the way of the Scorpio asc?

I dunno.

But "death" has always been a part of my life, and that is why I said what I did.

IF it were not for modern technology, my youngest would have been "dead" by now.

And as a heart nurse, I know, I absolutely KNOW what she is facing in the next coupla months..and it scares the living daylights out of me.

Again, I did not mean to disrespect anybody else's meetings with death, but I have been there so much, I live it, I am forced to embrace it.

t~

posted October 05, 2013 11:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How cool is this?

"The image taken using the gas discharge visualization method, an advanced technique of Kirlian photography shows in blue the life force of the person leaving the body gradually."
http://www.adguk-blog.com/2013/09/scientist-photographs-soul-leaving-body. html#.UkIwhYWmqls.facebook

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However it is not blue as the article states.
Well nevertheless. I like such images.
Here are a few more:

posted October 06, 2013 10:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I avoid death. Never even been to a funeral. Except for one that I had for my baby bird.

Studies have shown a loss of weight after death. They were trying to measure the weight of a soul. Does electical activity have weight?

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posted October 06, 2013 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I avoid death. Never even been to a funeral. Except for one that I had for my baby bird.

Studies have shown a loss of weight after death. They were trying to measure the weight of a soul. Does electical activity have weight?

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, I have heard about the weight loss, too

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I mentioned that on the previous page.

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Oh by the way Ami;
There were studies years back where the weight of the person dying dropped as they died.
I found that interesting.
If I can find "valid" information on that,
I will post it.
It was decades ago; so whether it was true or not, I do not know.

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posted October 07, 2013 03:35 PM            

I am going here.

Weight loss?

The physical body sheads, bleeds, pukes,***** .... puts out lots of physical substance....WAY before the soul leaves.

(ya wanna see it? dont go there)

And who in the heck "measured" a body's weight before and after.

Really..I mean it would have to be within nano seconds.

I WILL NEVER believe the soul has "weight"....how in the world can energy have physical weight?

The energy, while leaving has a substance, a feeling an energy (been there done that), but no physical "weight."

OK, come on.....

And please quote me

Cause I see many, many people die.....

geezzzz

ya'all

posted October 07, 2013 07:47 PM            

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Dr. Duncan "Om" MacDougall (c. 1866 – October 15, 1920) was an early 20th-century physician in Haverhill, Massachusetts who sought to measure the mass lost by a human body when the soul departed the body upon death.

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Ideas about the soul
In 1901, MacDougall weighed six patients while they were in the process of dying from tuberculosis in an old age home. It was relatively easy to determine when death was only a few hours away, and at this point the entire bed was placed on an industrial sized scale which was apparently sensitive to the gram. He took his results (a varying amount of perceived mass loss in most of the six cases) to support his hypothesis that the soul had mass, and when the soul departed the body, so did this mass. The determination of the soul weighing 21 grams was based on the average loss of mass in the six patients within moments after death. Experiments on mice and other animals took place. Most notably the weighing upon death of sheep seemed to create mass for a few minutes which later disappeared. The hypothesis was made that a soul portal formed upon death which then whisked the soul away.

MacDougall also measured fifteen dogs in similar circumstances and reported the results as "uniformly negative," with no perceived change in mass. He took these results as confirmation that the soul had weight, and that dogs did not have souls. MacDougall's complaints about not being able to find dogs dying of the natural causes that would have been ideal led one author to conjecture that he was in fact poisoning dogs to conduct these experiments. In March 1907, accounts of MacDougall's experiments were published in the Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research and the medical journal American Medicine, while the news was spread to the general public by New York Times.

MacDougall's results are generally regarded as false, due to the flawed methodology used in the tests. All attempts to reproduce the results with better methodologies and equipment have failed. Leading atheist Robert L. Park also raises objections to MacDougall's findings in his "Superstition: Belief in the Age of Science."

MacDougall's results are also brought into question due to the extreme variability in what few human subjects he had. Of the six people used, two were discounted for technical reasons, two lost weight initially which then continued to fall, and one lost weight which was later regained. Only one of the six had a sustained, non-changing loss in weight of approximately 21 grams.

Nonetheless, MacDougall's finding that presumably the human soul weighed 21 grams has become a meme in the public consciousness, mostly due to its claiming the titular thesis in the 2003 film 21 Grams.

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