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Topic: How does it feel to be a person? What is a person to you?
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somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 02:14 AM
I've been talking with a friend eventually I came to the conclusion that...I don't even view myself as a person, I view myself as an object. I'm serious! I'm just a collection of impulses and ideas which is attracted to other ideas. I feel alive but I don't feel human nor animal.I think it's because...you can't categorise me as anything really. I don't behave like anything. I am the ultimate androgynous individual! Sure, I am physically male, but I don't behave male. And I have no connection to my body either. I don't behave female either, or anything else. I even look like a mix of both. I don't care to look a certain way, I am just myself. Same with sexuality - I don't behave gay or bi and I most certainly am not heterosexual either. So like, what am I? An object. Just an object that happens to be alive. So idk, I guess I'm asking for other people's views on being a person. What does it mean to you, to be human? IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 622 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 28, 2013 02:47 AM
Well, okay, I'll be honest here. Also this may not really be a direct answer to your question but it's what I thought of. I'm NOT religious. I don't have any particular set of do's and don'ts, etc. I am "spiritual" I guess you could say. The reason that I even MENTION that is because in my personal view, which it is only a viewpoint of one person. So I don't want to get involved in some heated discussion. I don't get caught up in sexuality, race, personality. (Not that you do either! I'm just saying.) At least not when I think of someone as a part of the human race. As a person. A person to me has a soul that at the core of everyone, is really what makes them individual. It's little influences on who we are and how we behave, subtly. I just know that I have yet to be proven wrong, but everyone wants love, to be social, to have friends, they want to be part of a family, to be accepted. Just a lot of those basic needs, common needs, among all people all around the world. I can be aggressive, mean, etc. But sometimes if I actually take the time to think a little deeper. I can like even the most grumpy, annoying person I know. Simply because I know that they fight the same basic battles that I fight. No one escapes mortality and we all have to face it. They desire the same basic things that I do - such as love. Love from who seems irrelevant to me - love is the common point. So to me it's those things that make a person - a person. Whether they be short, tall, fat, skinny, a midget, black, Asian, White... gay, bi, rich or middle class, poor, whatever. Well anyway, I just want to reiterate, it's only my viewpoint.
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somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 03:08 AM
I am nihilistic, which is supposed to be a common phase for teenagers. The thing is, I am still optimistic and concerned about developments too, so I really don't think I'm just going through a bitter, cynical phase... I'm sort of spiritual too, in ways. I keep things open because I don't believe anything can be known right now, though I do subscribe to the idea of cause and effect as the only closest thing to a moral principle in the universe. I don't believe in right on wrong, per se, just that what you put out comes back eventually. I asked my friend, and she describes me as an experience lmao! Things I identify as more strongly than I identify as human: "an experience", "an object", and "70% air". IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 1228 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 28, 2013 03:09 AM
Interesting question. To me, probably the ability to contemplate life and death. I think being aware of death urges me to find a way to live my life in a way that is meaningful to me. I have a few years on Earth, so I choose to experience it my way. IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 3117 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 03:54 AM
I love this question... but personally - I feel very much animal 100% lolI'll come back to this! IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 7863 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 04:09 AM
I am whoever I want to be on any given day..I was the boy next door the today I going to be a seductive sex kitten tomorrow (EDIT:apparently on thanksgiving, well this should be interesting) I going to hide and be invisible from the world the next day. ( ^ accurate :P) I have a chameleon soul, with no fixed personality.. Honestly when I'm by myself I'm kinda of this blob of nothingness or maybe I'm everything. I know my personality changes around different types of people but it depends too on how I want to portray myself. I think it's cool I have this talent of being different people, looks and personality wise. It's like playing dress up everyday, I don't really care who or what I am. but I can be whatever you want me to be IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 04:55 AM
So far we have somethingexcellent, super fixed, the object/experience Odette, very cardinal, the animal and Kerosene, the ultimate mutability. An interesting group... quote: 12muddy: I think being aware of death urges me to find a way to live my life in a way that is meaningful to me.
Even death doesn't sway me. I mean, it's inevitable, right? I could die tomorrow and it would be okay. I don't think I would even be afraid if someone said they were going to kill me. I'd die willingly because, I believe in reincarnation, and as such, I've died millions of times before. This life is but one stepping stone!! Though, that doesn't mean I have no will to live. There are still many things I wish do and have and experience and learn. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 3471 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 28, 2013 05:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by somethingexcellent: What does it mean to you, to be human?
To me being a person is having thoughts, ideas, impulses, and self-aware (sentient). Objects are inanimate and don't have these things (at least not in a way we humans can recognize) and therefore you are a person rather than an object. Granted, once AI is fully created then that will no longer be the case...though personally I think any sentient entity should have protection (and probably equality) under the law (and thus a person). IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 05:31 AM
quote: PixieJane: and therefore you are a person rather than an object.
Don't tell me what to do!!!! JK lmfao! I know I'm a person (ew), but I feel like an object. An animate object. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 2538 From: 🔮 Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 28, 2013 06:53 AM
A person is a person who is a person who lives and didn't die yet IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 1364 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 12, 2013 08:59 PM
Sounds a bit like schizoid personality. We have difficulty with understanding the concept of 'I' as it relates to ourselves. Jung had some fascinating theories on why that is, but it's a very complex, thorny issue.Needless to say, wrapped up in a fractured sense of self which never fully developed. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50587 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 12, 2013 09:40 PM
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 6497 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 13, 2013 12:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by somethingexcellent: I've been talking with a friend eventually I came to the conclusion that...I don't even view myself as a person, I view myself as an object. I'm serious! I'm just a collection of impulses and ideas which is attracted to other ideas. I feel alive but I don't feel human nor animal.I think it's because...you can't categorise me as anything really. I don't behave like anything. I am the ultimate androgynous individual! Sure, I am physically male, but I don't behave male. And I have no connection to my body either. I don't behave female either, or anything else. I even look like a mix of both. I don't care to look a certain way, I am just myself. Same with sexuality - I don't behave gay or bi and I most certainly am not heterosexual either. So like, what am I? An object. Just an object that happens to be alive. So idk, I guess I'm asking for other people's views on being a person. What does it mean to you, to be human?
You are very human to me. Just because you don't fit into a mold doesn't mean you aren't. You are just who you are and that's all that matters. Be who you feel you are. Be true to yourself, this is the most important thing. What matters most is being at peace with who you are and happy, not feel angry or resentful over something. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 2920 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted December 13, 2013 02:13 AM
A "person" is a human who reacts to the environment they either find themselves in, or create for themselvesAll the while realizing they are "there" The bar lowers of course, based on current state of being, lest the George Shaw dictum proves to be true: "please justify your existence" Depending on the state one finds themselves in, or a complete incapacity to answer, the Whitaker Chambers response to Ayn Rand's writings: "...to the gas chamber go!..." Proves also to be true IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 1654 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 13, 2013 05:40 AM
I consider "Person" to mean "Source of Interactive Perspective". Which means I also consider other animals and inanimate objects people too. The idea of personhood requiring some kind of protocol seems counter-intuitive to my concept of the word. The way I see it, there is everything-goop and then there are objectified nodes of everything-goop. The nodes are goop personified. Though they appear unique, they are all unique perspectives of interaction with the same goop. Goopism Book 1:1 "In the beginning there was no beginning, because the concept of "Beginning" was just goop. The End (but not really... that's goop also)" IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 35673 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 24, 2013 08:41 PM
A corporation is a person.IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 1654 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 27, 2013 03:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: A corporation is a person.
LOL As of what, 2010? IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 3117 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted December 27, 2013 05:35 AM
Salomon v Salomon [1897] AC 22 is a landmark case for separate corporate personality. quote: A corporation is a person.
Unless the corporate veil is pierced Then it's more like a zombie lol IP: Logged | |