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Padre35
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posted December 05, 2013 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Wait what happened with your dad and her...
How was she in his car and he was in her face after your guys had sex??
I have really wonky comprehension skills.... sometimes my mind is too lazy to interpret things.
Plus your mercury conjuncts my neptune

I just want to get a better grasp of the situation!


No, what happened is, my father descended into madness, she'd go out and come back home and my dad would roll up and just go in on her..."I TOLD you not to leave!!!"

Kero, for me, it's the dilemma of she is a good good friend and fmr lover of mine, who now wants to take it up a notch...yet still brings up my Dad on his decline

One hand..always really had feelings for her, on the other it's like being donkey punched b/c my Father was really into her in his madness

To the point he used to walk 6 miles round trip b/c she used to..

Basically, I'm torn and the simple answer of "what do YOU want" is not that easy

As a man...sex w/hot woman=good
As a human being=sex w/this woman

Not so sure, put it this way, from organic apples to ceramic cookware (non stick of course Ms Taurus would have no less!)

I really like her, not 100% attracted to her as in "wow, she'd make a great...."

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posted December 05, 2013 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe distance yourself from her, for a while..
If she keeps hitting on you and you reject her, she will take it the wrong way and it will ruin the friendship you have as well.
If you sleep with her... I mean.. you could.. but obviously you have issues getting close, because of the thing with your dad. You would feel too guilty at the end of the day. That's my impression...
It's up to you loll..

This is unrelated - but you'll prolly want to reply to this thread haha.. It's becoming pretty R-Rated. I think the OP could use a male opinion. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/004748.html

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posted December 05, 2013 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh that's quite dysfunctional...
just tell her how you feel, exactly even bluntly.
She'll probably stop flirting with you unless she's messed up... and if that's the case... run for the hills.

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Padre35
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posted December 05, 2013 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks everyone!

Especially Ellynvx (sp) it is more that this simply is a no go..it is totally not her fault at all.

Which is impossible to reduce to words even in the closest of conversations. I can talk w/people it's more..IDK..shame over my Dad going all ALS and obsessing on her?

I'd never say such a thing..perhaps I should?

This IDK, that is some raw, real talk and what my fear is centers around saying it and making her feel guilty when she was the victim of it all/

Damn, that was painful to write

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posted December 05, 2013 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Maybe distance yourself from her, for a while..
If she keeps hitting on you and you reject her, she will take it the wrong way and it will ruin the friendship you have as well.
If you sleep with her... I mean.. you could.. but obviously you have issues getting close, because of the thing with your dad. You would feel too guilty at the end of the day. That's my impression...
It's up to you loll..

This is unrelated - but you'll prolly want to reply to this thread haha.. It's becoming pretty R-Rated. I think the OP could use a male opinion. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/004748.html


We are fmr lovers Odette, things happened and we went our separate ways.

Attraction has always been there, you "know" the look, the comments etc

If I were a player type, then sure, easy enough..a moment of indiscretion..fun times...

I'm not wired that way though.

and Odette, one of the things I've learned the hard way is, showing some interest, and having it returned, then doing not much else

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posted December 06, 2013 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Padre - Everyone has sex.. not just players

If you both want to have sex go for it. I thought the problem was you felt you couldn't have sex with her because of your shared past.
How does 'not being a player' come into this? o_O

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posted December 06, 2013 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Padre - Everyone has sex.. not just players

If you both want to have sex go for it. I thought the problem was you felt you couldn't have sex with her because of your shared past.
How does 'not being a player' come into this? o_O


B/c Odette, "sex" is not just casual sex for me, I try to look at the whole picture.

IF I were a player..drop the drawers, get it on, bounce, c ya!

Not my nature, I do enjoy the company of women, sex messes everything up and that has to be added into the thinking, at least for me.

Otherwise...my goodness...uhm..I'd just charm a lady, make the beast w/two backs, and leave..not that women do not want to have fun at times...and y'all do

It's more..really just looking for a woman to hang out with and talk about things most people would never, never talk about

Ideally..I'd ask her some edgy questions, she'd ask me edgy questions

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posted December 06, 2013 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that's admirable, Padre.

I didn't expect you to be a big picture person. Some Saggy in there huh?

I wouldn't mess around with something that so desperately screams "Not going to work!" It's just sad for both people, even when they go into a relationship knowing it's not going to last.

The only advice I can give is to be yourself, do exactly what you know you should because you seem to already be following your head and heart.

Good luck!

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posted December 06, 2013 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm That's pretty conservative ^ for a Sagittarius.

I have a happy view of sex so I don't think it messes everything up, unless you do it with the wrong person.
It can be energising and uplifting!

If I wasn't demisexual, I'd be ok with casual sex.
But I'm almost never sexually attracted to anyone, for better or worse lol

I think you should live in the moment and if you want to have sex with a woman - and you are both consenting adults - and it's casual to you both... then why not? This is not being a player. It's just sex.

Unless you have religious views that are anti-casual sex. Then I understand.

I mean, in this particular situation - with the Taurus woman.. I know that it's awkward for other reasons.

But with other women.. why not?
Are you also demisexual? Or just conservative about sex?

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posted December 06, 2013 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I missed your reply before Ms Prism..

I don't find it admirable to abstain from sex. But that's because I'm not the most conservative person!

This is a bit like some people don't find it admirable when others are vegetarian, because they don't see the point.. or they think it's just the 'circle of life' for animals to eat each other.
I am actually vegetarian myself ^ but I understand their POV

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posted December 06, 2013 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see where you're coming from, Odette and I agree with you.

I don't think it's admirable that he's not going to have casual sex, just that he's doing exactly what he feels/thinks is right for him.

I see some guys feeling pressured to do certain things because they are supposed to be "men" and that obviously means going after any sex thrown at you.

I think everyone should do exactly what makes sense for them. For instance, I've never had sex on a first date (I've even tried) but a woman I know thinks it's far better to have sex on the first date to know what you're dealing with.

Much love and respect to everyone!

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posted December 06, 2013 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm not prudish Odette, not in that sense, if the feeling is right then probably.

I do not view sex as "dirty" or what have you, it can be uplifting and fun and light at the time

It's more the after math I'm not into, I'm the sort that women tend to want to BF up and I'm not looking for that atm

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posted December 06, 2013 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did not understand at first, this is a very tangled thing, Padre.

I feel for you.

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posted December 06, 2013 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I did not understand at first, this is a very tangled thing, Padre.

I feel for you.


Thanks Ellyn, big picture it will all work out one way or another.

-Nothing will happen
-Something may happen

One way or t'other

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aquaguy91
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posted December 06, 2013 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe if you move forward with things it will help you clear your head. Sometimes doing what is counter intuitive works best.

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posted December 06, 2013 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Padre -

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I'm not prudish Odette, not in that sense, if the feeling is right then probably.

I'm glad you're not prudish, because prudishness kinda scares me

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I'm the sort that women tend to want to BF up and I'm not looking for that atm

I understand. I'm in the same boat.
If you date fellow mutable signs - they probably won't want anything serious.

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posted December 06, 2013 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maybe if you move forward with things it will help you clear your head. Sometimes doing what is counter intuitive works best.

Normally that is exactly what would happen AG, this is a bit more complext.

EllyN posting the synastry chart which basically shows we'd be best off as remaining flirty friends is the course of action I'll probably take.

She's quite the beautiful woman and there are worse things then bantering back sexual innuendos with such a woman.

What sort of man would not enjoy that?!?!

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posted December 06, 2013 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Padre -

I understand. I'm in the same boat.
If you date fellow mutable signs - they probably won't want anything serious.


Believe it or not, in my town they are somewhat difficult to find, lots of Virgos and Libras, some Gemini's.

Get along with Taurus females really well it is more fundamentally we are very different.

As for prudishness, for me was never good at the gracious, Don Draper smoke and a cab ride home..things tend to end messily.

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posted December 06, 2013 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Normally that is exactly what would happen AG, this is a bit more complext.

EllyN posting the synastry chart which basically shows we'd be best off as remaining flirty friends is the course of action I'll probably take.

She's quite the beautiful woman and there are worse things then bantering back sexual innuendos with such a woman.

What sort of man would not enjoy that?!?!


Goodness, one should exercise caution though. If one offends a Taurus woman there will be hell to pay. I figured that one out the hard way.

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posted December 06, 2013 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Goodness, one should exercise caution though. If one offends a Taurus woman there will be hell to pay. I figured that one out the hard way.

There is an art to it AG, for example we both enjoy working out, I mentioned once late at night there was infomercial for a workout DVD named "the Brazilian Butt Lift"..which struck me as hillarious.

She mentioned she bought special shoes for her spin class to try and develop her backside

The next move should be obvious

Let me rephrase that, obvious to most, guess what I flirt with her about now?

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posted December 06, 2013 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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guess what I flirt with her about now?

haha.. The shake weight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C88Ydagh0Q

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posted December 06, 2013 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There is an art to it AG, for example we both enjoy working out, I mentioned once late at night there was infomercial for a workout DVD named "the Brazilian Butt Lift"..which struck me as hillarious.

She mentioned she bought special shoes for her spin class to try and develop her backside

The next move should be obvious

Let me rephrase that, obvious to most, guess what I flirt with her about now?



Goodness, why not go ahead and abandon all subtlety ? I wish you good luck with that . Lol

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posted December 06, 2013 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 06, 2013 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goodness AG.... Just Goodness! O_O

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posted December 06, 2013 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^there ya go padre

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