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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2013 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone tell me about it? I really don't understand what it entails. I looked on the web but could not get a practical idea. Thanks a lot!

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posted December 08, 2013 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean cross dressing.
like Drag?
I mean males that dress like women daily is self explanatory lol Gender expression.

Did you watch drag race or something?
That is entertainment, they aren't meant to look exactly like real women. I think of them like las vegas show girls, Halloween every weekend.
Anyways it's been around since well forever, just apart of the human experience.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2013 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know anything about it. I think someone I know is a cross dresser, so I would like to know what it entails.

Thanks

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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2013 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like what would happen at a cross dressing party. Is it sexual or just dressing

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posted December 08, 2013 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't you ask this person ? I'm sure they would be happy educate you. Everyone is different

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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2013 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Why don't you ask this person ? I'm sure they would be happy educate you. Everyone is different


I am asking you guys, if you know.

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posted December 09, 2013 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
survey of crossdressers.

Psychology of men who wear dresses.

Why these Christians cross-dress.

Btw, it seems both the gay men who cross dress or are attracted to cross-dressers are a small minority. Some who cross dress are straight. Since many don't realize that I thought I'd throw that out there. It's my impression that only a few cross dress out of any erotic reason.

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posted December 09, 2013 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cross dressing means dressing/looking as the opposite gender of what you are! Gender and intent is important because a trans person who present as the opposite, preferred sex is different than someone who cross dresses. Cross dressing can be for fun and self-expression, practised as a hobby, or it could be for sexual reasons, such as for a fetish. A cross dressing party could be just a party where people who cross dress hang around together in their cross dressing apparel or it could very well be a sexual party...it would depend!

Drag, what Kerosene mentioned, is a form of cross dressing which is dramatic and generally for show/entertainment purposes, and is very different from general cross dressing.

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posted December 09, 2013 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

The answer to your question is a complex one. The term "cross-dressing" usually refers to a specific niche in the wide spectrum of behaviors involving dress/grooming habits considered "appropriate to the opposite gender" by society.

A transsexual person for example, may dress or modify their physical body to look like the opposite sex. The drive is not generally sexual, as much as it is the intention to match their physical appearance with their psychological gender.

A male transvestite would, on the other hand, wear women's clothing (generally undergarments) because he enjoys how it looks on his male body, how it feels tactically, or even because it makes him feel sexy, dangerous, and attractive (this is generally what people refer to when they mention cross-dressing or someone who is a cross-dresser). There are both gay and straight cross-dressers.

Drag, in comparison to the two previously mentioned subjects, is a form of performance art similar to Geisha or Kabuki. Artists tend to dress in elaborate or provocative costume rather than common clothing of the opposite sex. Drag specifically entails assuming a character (sometimes a celebrity or historical figure) and interacting with others as that character.

All three of the above examples can involve sexual pleasure, but transvestism is the only one that specifically derives sexual pleasure from the act of dressing in clothing of the opposite gender. For example, it is possible for a transsexual male (having transitioned from female to male) could get sexual pleasure from wearing women's underwear. This would make him both a transsexual male and a transvestite (which I imagine are rare, but must exist somewhere). Transsexualism is based more on a feeling of personal well-being and psychological balance by transitioning from one gender to another and drag is simply art.

An honorable mention is gender-bending. This tends to apply to the act of intentionally appearing androgynous. Gender-bending is more of a fashion preference than a sexual fetish, and doesn't specifically require the person to naturally appear androgynous. Performers like David Bowie, Grace Jones, Annie Lennox, Boy George, etc.. are all examples of gender-bending.

As mentioned above, you may want to just approach your friend with your questions. It is common for people to not really know terminology and apply the term "cross-dressing" to any of the above situations. Your friend could be referring to a gender-swap themed party, in which case, none of the above examples would apply, it would just be a party with the theme of dressing like the opposite sex. No sexual activity would be directly implied.

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posted December 09, 2013 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Xiiro

I appreciate it. Since you are being so sweet. What would people do at cross dressing parties? Would it be sexual, pretty much.

If it is men, what do they do?

We can talk about sexual things in a tasteful way, here.

I think this is an OK question to ask.

It is like the web descriptions are so woooly that I can't really grasp it.

Thanks again. I know you don't like me too much so it was sweet of you to answer!

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posted December 09, 2013 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cross-dress
verb
gerund or present participle: cross-dressing

1.
wear clothing typical of the opposite sex.
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This is a topic that can be interpreted way too many ways, and mostly erroneously.
And it is not basically about sex.
Google will supply you with all you desire to know beyond the basic innocent vanilla dictionary definition.
Many folks fit the standard basic definition but do not see themselves as cross dressers.
Clothing is non gendered;
it is society which determines that and it varies throughout time and cultures.
I wear mostly male clothing.
I do it totally for comfort and not any kinky sexual interest.
Nor to make some statement.
Women have more freedom than men to wear what they want without being labeled.

Please do not quote me.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2013 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won't quote, Lexx. Thanks for your input.

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posted December 09, 2013 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MetalAphrodite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should cross dressing be associated with sexuality, even though it is basically a person wearing clothes intended for the opposite gender?

I think it would be more appropriate to say a person who dresses in drag would be correctly associated with sexuality because drag is a lifestyle.

Then again, this is coming from someone who watched "To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything, Julie Newmar" and wondered why there was a girl with Patrick Swayze and Wesley Snipes in the movie and kept looking for John Leguizamo. I was a kid and didn't know what drag queens were at that point.

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posted December 10, 2013 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What would people do at cross dressing parties? Would it be sexual, pretty much.

If it is men, what do they do?

It is like the web descriptions are so woooly that I can't really grasp it.


As I mentioned previously, it would really depend on your friend's meaning. The term is too generalized for me to offer a definitive answer. I worked at an S&M supply company (along with other sexually focused novelties), so I have a little bit of exposure to fetish terminology and practices. I have never heard the term "cross-dressing party" in the same way someone hears "Dom and Sub" or "PnP Party".

It could actually be something as simple as guys getting together and enjoying the company and acceptance of other men in women's clothing. They could sit around, drinking beer, and watching football. Sort of like a casual support group or meetup.

If you are assuming sex is involved, then they may also have sex with each other or with men and/or women who do not cross-dress, but find it attractive.

If you replace cross-dressing with "puppetry" you still have the same spectrum of possibilities. Some people just love them a nice soft puppet, some people just like the way their hand feels inside a puppet, some people like pretending they are the puppet's character and interacting with others through the puppet, and some people just collect puppets cause that's what their grandpa did. There really isn't a specific protocol.

As for not liking you, it isn't anything personal. I dislike the way you conduct yourself. I don't specifically know you as a person, beyond who you project your self to be here on LL. I can't agree with your statement, because I just don't know you well enough to form that kind of opinion. I know what level of interaction I am comfortable engaging in with you and I attempt not to cross that line.

I hope the above info is helpful =)

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Ami Anne
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posted December 10, 2013 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Xiiro

We don't have to like everyone's style. That is cool

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posted December 10, 2013 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thanks Xiiro

We don't have to like everyone's style. That is cool


Yep, did that clear up the confusion about your friend's party?

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posted December 10, 2013 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it did and thank you!

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posted December 10, 2013 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't know anything about it. I think someone I know is a cross dresser, so I would like to know what it entails.

Thanks


why don't you ask him? why asking here and not directly the person ?

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posted December 12, 2013 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Btw, it seems both the gay men who cross dress or are attracted to cross-dressers are a small minority. Some who cross dress are straight. Since many don't realize that I thought I'd throw that out there. It's my impression that only a few cross dress out of any erotic reason.

That's true. A lot of cos-players cross dress as well. It's just for fun.

For example:

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