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12muddy
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posted January 09, 2014 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always have few personal belongings so they don't weigh me down when I jump from places to places - just pack the bag and go.

I've heard people talking about letting go of "emotional baggage" to move forwards but I have never given it much thought. So for the last 10 minutes I've been thinking a bit about the recent events that happened in my life and I realized that I've been letting go of stuff lol.

Yah. Letting go will certainly help me to move forward and have a brighter year.

<Rambling>

Isn't it a bit like a snake shedding its skin? Have you done any "shedding" lately?

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23
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posted January 09, 2014 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good onya Muddy. Not sure if I can do it with emotions.

However, my new years' resolution was not to buy any personal things for myself. So far, I have only bought a few books for myself this year but I don't see an issue with this as I'll read them this year and pass them on. I did a massive cupboard clean end of last year and got rid of a few of my possessions. I'm going to do it again, I have too much and I feel it is weighing me down. I need to listen to my Sco NN.

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Violets
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posted January 09, 2014 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that I do that on a fairly regular basis (fairly heavy Pluto here).

I am forever psychoanalyzing myself, doing energy work to release negative energy or emotional baggage (I have plenty), and when someone consistently hits a nerve for me, I eventually have to question what it is about their behavior that I find so hurtful or infuriating.

And then I dig into the trenches of my psyche, rummage around a bit, and try to let go of whatever it is. Whether through therapy techniques or spiritual means, I do feel as though I'm constantly doing this.

But then, transiting Pluto has been squaring my natal Pluto and opposing my Saturn off and on for the past few years, and also making a trine to my Moon/sextile my Sun. I've been enjoying it.

The hard Uranus transits not so much.
Uranus can p*ss right off as far as I'm concerned.

But we did put in new countertops in the kitchen and are remodeling the bathroom, if Uranus is responsible for that I'm not ungrateful.

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Violets
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posted January 09, 2014 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although...I've been having to reassess my personal belongings lately. There are too many. I practically hoard certain things, and it's cumbersome. It's unnecessary, just like emotional baggage.

Also, I'm not always as quick on the draw to check my personal baggage as I would prefer. Sometimes I have to go through the same stupid crap with different people before the lightbulb finally clicks on above my head.

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23
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posted January 09, 2014 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Violets - I don't know how to deal with emotional baggage. I always ruminate and then eventually it fades with time and then I assess the situation again and come to some sort of understanding of what happened. Often though, I'm still emotional about what happens and then I shrug my shoulders knowing that I'm not there anymore and there's nothing I can do about it anyway - often the other person is not there to talk to or kill. For myself, I just wouldn't force myself with time limits to understand what is happening.

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Violets
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posted January 09, 2014 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 23:
Violets - I don't know how to deal with emotional baggage. I always ruminate and then eventually it fades with time and then I assess the situation again and come to some sort of understanding of what happened. Often though, I'm still emotional about what happens and then I shrug my shoulders knowing that I'm not there anymore and there's nothing I can do about it anyway - often the other person is not there to talk to or kill. For myself, I just wouldn't force myself with time limits to understand what is happening.

I think that most of my emotional baggage has been carted around with me for decades, so it just tends to get peeled away more as time goes on (thank God).
And it has for sure taken decades, with layers removed, and then more layers over the years. As I get older, I recognize certain patterns more easily, but sometimes things sneak up on me and it takes a while for me to realize that I'm reacting on autopilot, based on some unpleasant experience from my past.

I believe it's a lifelong process, and I'm okay with not being perfect with it.

But I should really clear out my closet and the boxes in the garage.

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Catalina
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posted January 10, 2014 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clearing physical clutter can be hugely effective for the emotional kind! I described a couple of processes that i found incredibly effective and drama free in the Hatred thread if anyone cares to try.

They seem so simple I was sure they would also be useless, but when I finally tried them they bowled me over.

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mirage29
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posted January 10, 2014 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard someone recently say that Emotions involve the mind, Feelings involves the physical body... and that you can't heal what you can't feel.

My own mind has been so locked up... Like you said, Catalina (in Hatred thread)-- sometimes you can be looking straight AT a thing and miss 'seeing' it.

On December 21 I had a huge revelation that came to me regarding things I believed for years about my family of origins. I held questions in my heart without assuming I knew any of the answers-- I put out to the universe that I was 'willing' in my heart to Know.

When it happened I had NO idea or pre-feeling that this all would come... I had worked like you, Violets. Layer on layer of thoughts. But this time I put thoughts aside and was just 'willing' ~~ an empty willing ~~ to see or Know what there was to know.

Once it all started, it further unraveled. Then knowledge spread out like branches of the 'family' tree. What I needed to acknowledge had been 'in my knowing' the whole time.

And I feel no harshness towards my self for not seeing it because it was too much for me to handle before. To SEE the betrayals and OUTRIGHT LIES for once 'as it Really' went down.

There's pain that leads to more pain... and pain that eventually leads to healing.

I'm way not there yet; but I can say NOW that in the past 3 weeks I have definitely moved a tiny bit more forward..... and THAT'S a LOT of growing.

You ever packed to move, and found that things are tightly in places that you had no idea you had? And when it all gets packaged to go, the volume of 'everything' seems so much larger?

Yes... Get rid of stuff, more stuff comes. But it 'had been there all along' and you compacted it. Nice and tidy.

Moving... is messy.

Here's a Byron URL, Catalina.... Thanks http://www.thework.com/thework-4questions.php

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DeepFreeze
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posted January 10, 2014 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Certainly, I'm not perfect and I wouldn't claim to be.

For me, basically. I just don't want something from "yesterday" to ruin today. Today is the only one I get and then it will just be "yesterday".
I want to smile "today".

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Catalina
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posted January 10, 2014 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My pleasure mirage. As it was to see so much baggage dissolve. The first step is that willingness. You don't have to "believe in" Byron katie to try the process, imo she really hit on something there though! That mirror comes into full focus with the questions and the"turnaround" .

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Ellynlvx
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posted January 10, 2014 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't that what the Venus Retrograde was supposed to be about?

Cleaning House. (Whichever one it falls in, ha.)

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Ellynlvx
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posted January 10, 2014 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope this isn't too much, but here:

"Here's a simple article about this Venus Rx.

Venus Retrograde

When Venus is retrograde, we re-evaluate many things in our lives, aiming to achieve that perfect balance of beauty, harmony and happiness. We re-evaluate our important relationships to see if they are providing us the harmony we hoped for. We look around our environment and make adjustments; rearranging the furniture, repainting the walls a different color, or making other changes to beautify our surroundings. It is the same with our personal appearance; we try a new hairstyle or redecorate ourselves, always with this urge towards more beautification. It is a good idea to allow for this period of experimentation since preferences may change again by the time Venus concludes her retrograde cycle.

It’s only about every 18 months that Venus goes retrograde for about 40 days. She spends the least amount of time retrograde of any of the “planets”. (Of course the Sun and Moon are technically the “lights” and they never go retrograde.)

Venus’s next retrograde period begins December 21, 2013 when Venus stations at 28º Capricorn. Venus moves back to 13º Capricorn, resuming direct motion on January 31, 2014. Venus makes it back to 28º Capricorn on March 3, 2014.

Venus is rather like our happiness gauge. During its backward motion we have the opportunity to take a deep look at what is making us happy, whether it be relationships, situations, environment or “things”. We enter a period of review of these.

Throughout this process, keep in mind that Venus has to do with attraction, affections, and objects of devotion. Venus connects to the sentiments and since our sensitive side is more sensitive than usual, it’s a good idea to practice diplomacy and be gentle, especially with those you love. They are likely to be the first target of your displeasure. Give others the benefit of the doubt.

If the passions are aroused a new relationship could form. In this case you might need to reevaluate how precious your freedom is. In many cases, there’s a matter of a choice; giving up one thing in order to have another. Incidentally, it’s a good time to explore a new relationship but not a good time to wed. For some, the need to end a relationship will be real and a wise choice, however, you should be wary of the impulse for this Venus to act too quickly. Think it over carefully and if you have the slightest inkling that you could be making a mistake, wait awhile. We may be anxious to turn over a new leaf only to find later on that something crucial is missing from the new page.

Ruling objects of beauty, art, décor, jewelry, etc. this may not be the best time to make expensive purchases, but a time to de-clutter and let go of things that are no longer a reflection of who you are. Look around you; what about that old collection of ______ from the ’80s? Does it still bring you the pleasure it once did or have you outgrown it? Let it go and make room to grow. You may not want to actually sell it until Venus turns direct if it’s really valuable but you can spruce it up and get it ready – emotionally detach.

Of course, there’s always the chance that something will “happen to” some of our “stuff” that upsets us. We lose something, break something, plans are cancelled, etc. If you find a way to use the energy of this transit constructively, however, fewer of these incidents will occur.

Depending upon the house of your chart in which this cycle takes place, something may come under issue for you to assess for its value in your life. Best wishes! Celeste Teal"

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