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Xiiro
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posted February 05, 2014 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being a male with an overabundance of fire in my chart, I have witnessed my share of pornography. What I find interesting is how the themes have evolved over the past Plutonian generations. I mention this topic because I recently saw something that cracked me up and it was such a reminder that the sex industry is now transitioning to appeal to the Pluto in Sagittarius generation. Something also to add is that gay pornography can be a bit more diverse than hetero porn. In hetero porn the female of the species is a mystery, so a majority of the time everyone just ignores her needs. Gay porn can definitely be similar, as little care is often taken for the receiving partner. If you are familiar with being the receptive party, watching gay porn entails a bit of cringing and a bunch of suspension of disbelief.

Some gay porn however, seems like it was written by women and my watery Venus doesn't mind one bit. In the above mentioned scene, it begins with two guys laying in bed, just talking. They were discussing how one was leaving for college that day and the other (though obviously sad) was proud of his partner's opportunity to pursue a career in medicine. They both eventually get dressed and say their goodbyes, followed by an obligatory smelling of a shirt left behind. It cuts to later that night, with the left-behind boyfriend watching a movie on the couch. The doorbell rings...and it's the pizza boy. Dude pays for his pizza and the delivery guy starts to check him out. Before dude shuts the door the delivery guy says, "You're lookin hot tonight". To which dude looks him in the face and states, "This isn't that kind of porno." and shuts the door.

I am always amazed at how astrology permeates to a quantum level. When I was young and smut was appealing to Pluto in Virgo people, it was full of plastic people, bumping uglys in the most sterile and least romantic way possible. AIDS was everywhere and everything sex related was kept at arms-length. Once the appeal evolved more toward Pluto in Libra folks, the internet was well on its way and people constructed their own brand of personalized amateur porn by recording and socializing their intimate moments on the internet. Finally as Pluto in Scorpio became the demographic, concepts like bait and switch, revenge porn, and the normalization of kink started to emerge.

I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed similar patterns, especially in areas people don't tend to want to talk about or acknowledge? What will Pluto in Sag and Pluto in Cap bring? Comedy porn, outdoor porn, porn sports? Business porn, mountain climbing porn, celebrity porn, granny porn (eek)?

Please be tasteful when replying, it is possible to observe astrology in taboo subjects like these without the conversation falling into complete chaos.

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posted February 05, 2014 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have personally seen a lot of funny stuff in porn lately. I was watching one a few days ago where a guy in a gorilla suit was plowing a chick.

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posted February 05, 2014 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also wonder if pluto in sag could have something to do with the whole BBW obsession. That stuff is all over the place.

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posted February 05, 2014 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I also wonder if pluto in sag could have something to do with the whole BBW obsession. That stuff is all over the place.

Hmm dunno. I associate that more with Lunar or Venusian influences. Unless by BBW you are referring specifically to the general (post 80's) obsession with big butts. Though butts are Libran anatomical references, that may have some connection to Sag being associated with hips.

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posted February 05, 2014 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reading your post I suddenly thought of Daikichi Damano's fetish porn - the "extreme" side of cap pluto, but again, this kind of porn has been around for ages, so yeah I'm not sure if it could be attributed to a specific astro placement.

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posted February 05, 2014 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Hmm dunno. I associate that more with Lunar or Venusian influences. Unless by BBW you are referring specifically to the general (post 80's) obsession with big butts. Though butts are Libran anatomical references, that may have some connection to Sag being associated with hips.

I wonder what astrological influence is to blame for two girls 1 cup and 1 guy 1 jar?

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posted February 05, 2014 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ maybe sag pluto - those vids were for "shock value" (???)

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posted February 05, 2014 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tasteful
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smut
in the same sentence

I didn`t read the opening post but I couldn`t resist commenting on the title as it read in "view todays topics" .
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posted February 05, 2014 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HIV was discovered in 1981 while Pluto was at 23ish Libra and AIDS was recognized as such in '83 if I remember correctly. Around the time Pluto went into Scorpio. Sorry just had to say that lol because I've got nothing on the subject.

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posted February 05, 2014 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I wonder what astrological influence is to blame for two girls 1 cup and 1 guy 1 jar?

From how far I was able to see it (*) I'd go with Scorpio with its abnormality and obsession with taboo and body processes. Possibly Taurus (senses & eating) squared Aquarius (needing a new idea, something creative)? Or ironically, Virgo influences given how "perfect" it tried to be in its disgusting display (if anyone gets morbidly curious I'd suggest reading about it on wikipedia rather than watching it, but trust me when I say it's knowledge you don't need, and coming from me that's saying something).

(* which wasn't far, and I only saw it at all because someone following a fad asked me if it was that bad only to laugh at me after I said boring, not bad, and then react at a certain part early on...I should just be glad my reaction wasn't posted on YouTube as so many others were. Btw, he wasn't the only one to try to trick me into seeing the first part of it, but no one ever got me to look at it again. It was a fad and Bryan even tricked Stewie into watching it on Family Guy. And that pranking with it very well may have been Sag.)

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posted February 05, 2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Some gay porn however, seems like it was written by women and my watery Venus doesn't mind one bit. In the above mentioned scene, it begins with two guys laying in bed, just talking. They were discussing how one was leaving for college that day and the other (though obviously sad) was proud of his partner's opportunity to pursue a career in medicine. They both eventually get dressed and say their goodbyes, followed by an obligatory smelling of a shirt left behind. It cuts to later that night, with the left-behind boyfriend watching a movie on the couch. The doorbell rings...and it's the pizza boy. Dude pays for his pizza and the delivery guy starts to check him out. Before dude shuts the door the delivery guy says, "You're lookin hot tonight". To which dude looks him in the face and states, "This isn't that kind of porno." and shuts the door

And I've noticed a big difference for porn aimed at men and women, and other than gender it's very similar for the gay markets (such as bara vs. yaoi, one primarily written by men for men and the other primarily by women for women). And I'll literally find straight porn by women for women more compelling to me than lesbian porn made by men for men.

There is one comic porn series I did like, however, called Xxxenophile. Though in actuality I considered it more of a comedy. That was creative, fun, funny, and often sweet. And once in a blue moon it actually got me hot.

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posted February 05, 2014 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
omg but gay porn though.
I hate it most of them are not even attracted to men.
So they are so cold and not passionate about it... I feel like they are just cookie cutter good looking with no personalities.
More like models.. but even models have more personalities.

I mean straight porn the females really act their ass of.
It's humorous at times.
but I don't really like porn when it come to sexual fulfillment. I mean japanese hentai hilarious but it's more like... a joke.. I mean I have to be on a lot of drugs and alone doing nothing.

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posted February 05, 2014 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hera:
HIV was discovered in 1981 while Pluto was at 23ish Libra and AIDS was recognized as such in '83 if I remember correctly. Around the time Pluto went into Scorpio. Sorry just had to say that lol because I've got nothing on the subject.

Yep, right around the time Pluto in Virgo People were becoming the demographic for porn consumption. Pluto in Libra kids were (in an ideal world) still a bit too young (the oldest being around 10 years old).

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
From how far I was able to see it (*) I'd go with Scorpio with its abnormality and obsession with taboo and body processes. Possibly Taurus (senses & eating) squared Aquarius (needing a new idea, something creative)?

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I've noticed a big difference for porn aimed at men and women, and other than gender it's very similar for the gay markets (such as bara vs. yaoi, one primarily written by men for men and the other primarily by women for women). And I'll literally find straight porn by women for women more compelling to me than lesbian porn made by men for men.


I can definitely see Pluto in Scorpio involved in this influence too. I have never knowingly seen porn designed by women, but you usually assume it isn't depending on what takes place. Lesbian porn written by men is a sad joke, ask a lesbian. There are so many things about it that would not facilitate an enjoyable encounter. As you stated though, it is written by men, for men.


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omg but gay porn though.
I hate it most of them are not even attracted to men.
So they are so cold and not passionate about it... I feel like they are just cookie cutter good looking with no personalities.
More like models.. but even models have more personalities.

I mean straight porn the females really act their ass of.
It's humorous at times.
but I don't really like porn when it come to sexual fulfillment. I mean japanese hentai hilarious but it's more like... a joke.. I mean I have to be on a lot of drugs and alone doing nothing.


I agree, one needs a masters in forensic science and database programming to track down pornography with any kind of chemistry. For the most part it is some guy who doesn't know how to make his partner feel good, blessing his partner with a trip to the ER, while his partner somehow masters the art of making pain look somewhat less painful (I suspect vacations to a happy place, or a previous career sitting on fire hydrants).

I read an interesting blog about how these scenes take hours to film. After 6 hours of that, I'm not sure anyone would be able to muster up much chemistry. In straight porn, the women are never convincing for me, unless the guy knows what he is doing.

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posted February 05, 2014 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wtf Im really disappointed that I don't have a major opinion on this subject....

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posted February 05, 2014 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
However I use to reblog pictures of vintage porn because it's so beautiful.
Only with women...
I would show an example but you can't even do that here...although it seems more like art to me.

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posted February 05, 2014 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never understood why people complain about porn not being romantic, its not supposed to be, most of the storylines are about random hook-up situations. And even if they intended it to be romantic it would be easier said than done. How can you have romance when sex is your job and you have sex with strangers in a room full of people who are watching and filming you? The only romantic porn you are going to find is home made stuff made by couples.

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posted February 06, 2014 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I never understood why people complain about porn not being romantic, its not supposed to be, most of the storylines are about random hook-up situations. And even if they intended it to be romantic it would be easier said than done. How can you have romance when sex is your job and you have sex with strangers in a room full of people who are watching and filming you? The only romantic porn you are going to find is home made stuff made by couples.

WTH? You think porn is about finding people, peeping toms so to speak, that they can't have a more meaningful story? That there can't be acting?

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posted February 06, 2014 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I never understood why people complain about porn not being romantic, its not supposed to be, most of the storylines are about random hook-up situations. And even if they intended it to be romantic it would be easier said than done. How can you have romance when sex is your job and you have sex with strangers in a room full of people who are watching and filming you? The only romantic porn you are going to find is home made stuff made by couples.

I think the main problem comes from sex being such a social taboo. While society sees sex as naughty, people will scarf it down any way they can get it. As sex loses its mystery, a challenge arises for porn to become enjoyable for more reasons than, "OMG sex!". Some of that is done by introducing shock or gorilla suits, some is done by playing on the intimate side.

I am an empath, so I connect with the actors and notice when even the slightest things are off. If both participants are not enjoying the encounter, I don't find it interesting. Having Moon and Saturn in Virgo (Saturn square Venus) I am also usually grossed out by porn. The flavors, textures, and smells become just as alive as the feelings I pick up. I find myself more often thinking, "congratulations, you now have chlamydia", "Oh ghad... don't put that in your mouth >gag<", or "you need to go to the freaking doctor... that is not hot, it's a medical condition!" more than, "Wow that was sexy."

I'm not sure many of us have high expectations of porn, but I don't think it's unreasonable to want to see people actually enjoying their jobs in an environment that facilitates that kind of product. Do I sound like I am considering opening a stray porn star rescue?

Porn stars are actors after all and it is their job to tell a story...about a guy..... and a girl.... abducted by aliens... and forced to get it on... while green dudes with boners on their foreheads chant...

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posted February 06, 2014 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
WTH? You think porn is about finding people, peeping toms so to speak, that they can't have a more meaningful story? That there can't be acting?

But its not about the acting.. Lol personally i enjoy the terrible acting and corny music.

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posted February 06, 2014 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg I love couple porn like sex tapes those are my favorite. You can tell too because they are cuddling and smiling sometimes.

It's like watching romance movies but authentic ones .. a lot of times people want to see the extent of human affection. Not just trashy fake boobies all the time.

I think instead of exposing young people to unrealistic expectations we should have more couple porn and less unattractive porn .
Lets be honest like most of us watch it ironically... right lol?
I use to have a favorite one. it was like a short documentary shot by a couple.. I they were students at nyu. I don't remember the source or even the name lol

GUYS there is this site where they films five couples 24 hours days a day. they just have cams around the house

My bff would just stay in on friday and watch them, we use to call them our SIMS lol they were in europe so it was day there.
I love watching some of them getting it on...

My favorite was when the guys like picked her up and started getting turnt up all over the place. YAAAAAAAS.

I know im creepy but i meaaaaan it a lot more authentic than porn.
Sometimes they would punish the viewers cause on the internet people would track them down etc so they would like avoid being vulnerable.

and my friend use to hack the site so we could watch all the bedrooms lmfaaaaao.

I use to have a favorite romance couple.
sex couple
and fun couple.

i don't really watch anymore because most of the time thye are not even home lol... and they are always replacing couples.

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posted February 06, 2014 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Yep, right around the time Pluto in Virgo People were becoming the demographic for porn consumption. Pluto in Libra kids were (in an ideal world) still a bit too young (the oldest being around 10 years old).

Ohh I understand now. I'm Pluto in Libra and honestly find it distasteful, objectifying and fake. Pluto was however 1 deg and a half short of going into Scorpio so I suppose I find bdsm stuff more authentic.

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posted February 06, 2014 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
The flavors, textures, and smells become just as alive as the feelings I pick up. I find myself more often thinking, "congratulations, you now have chlamydia", "Oh ghad... don't put that in your mouth >gag<", or "you need to go to the freaking doctor... that is not hot, it's a medical condition!" more than, "Wow that was sexy."

ROTFL

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posted February 06, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm I have more of a question than I do a response to whats already been said:

If you could be a porn-star, what would your porn-star name be?


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posted February 06, 2014 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Hmmm I have more of a question than I do a response to whats already been said:

If you could be a porn-star, what would your porn-star name be?


Isn't it like your first pet's name and the lastname of your kindergarten teacher? In that case my name would be Dixie Ream. Eek

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posted February 06, 2014 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
If you could be a porn-star, what would your porn-star name be?

Pervish Paula? I'd want to be creative (as long as it doesn't involve a cup). Or, for lesbian porn, Boi Becky?

No, wait, if I were going to be in porn, I'd be a dominatrix figure...Mistress Xenaphile? I'd use Xena as inspiration for character and clothes, and then I could boss my fans around for my own amusement. Speaking of which:
http://youtu.be/Q2X9L8akKgE?t=1m25s

While I'm at it, here's a Xena vid set to Make It Hot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HclaJsABW8

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