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posted February 05, 2014 12:13 PM            

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The thought that you might have been aborted/miscarried/never conceived.

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posted February 05, 2014 12:18 PM            

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Is this what you carry?

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posted February 05, 2014 12:41 PM            

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I don't understand.

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posted February 05, 2014 01:27 PM            

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We'd never know either way. We're all here for a reason.

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posted February 05, 2014 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I don't understand.

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Do you feel you were unwanted was my question.

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posted February 05, 2014 01:55 PM            

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It just makes me feel...void.

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posted February 05, 2014 02:26 PM            

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What inspired me to make this thread was reading comments on abortion and the frequency of "what if your mother had aborted you?! yada yada" coming from pro-lifers. Personally, this question leaves me cold. I would've stayed were I was or been born as someone else *shrug*

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posted February 05, 2014 04:38 PM            

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Summed up:

*shrug*

And ironically, I bet I'm happier and more fulfilled than many who'd use that, too.

But those people aren't "reasoning" nor are they "empathizing" with the unborn, at least not the majority of them which is revealed on how fast that pseudo-empathy evaporates when it comes to circumcision and the welfare of a child that's already been born (including children killed by drones, bombs, etc, at least in other countries, heck, many of those same people are shockingly insensitive to school shootings in their own country), and I've seen some who prefer children be homeless than with gay parents, or justify the bullying and worse of gay kids that drive them to suicide and then use it as proof that people who are gay are sick rather than the people who were so vile, aka "moral," to him/her including parent throwing kids out on the street, etc. So just don't waste your time wondering, it works only on those who want it to work, and only for as long as they want it to, and then empathy is conveniently discarded as it was used.

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posted February 05, 2014 05:28 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
What inspired me to make this thread was reading comments on abortion and the frequency of "what if your mother had aborted you?! yada yada" coming from pro-lifers. Personally, this question leaves me cold. I would've stayed were I was or been born as someone else *shrug*

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And why were you "there" anyway?

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posted February 05, 2014 06:01 PM            

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I am not afraid of death so why would I be afraid of never existing?
It seems irrelevant to me because I am alive now and there's no point in even trying to comprehend not existing LOL. because not existing means i would never know what life is like and imo it's overrated anyways.
So really I feel more logical about his whole concept and thinking more about others than myself.

If my mother knew I had severe disabilities I would probably would have wanted her to abort me. As not only would I would suffer but my mother would too.
Same if she was a teenager with no support.
She has the choice to abort a simple cellular life form if she chooses. After all she is technically god for creating you.

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posted February 05, 2014 06:36 PM            

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I'm not too squiked out about thoughts like these. I believe all experiences are perfect, and there is just as much value in the experience of a long life as there is with a brief one.

Part of what makes the idea of death frightening is the prospect of losing one's conscious identity, but our identity is based primarily on our experiences and acquisitions outside the womb. I believe all life is precious, but I also have no illusions about the fact that all life dies in its own time.

Illness, murder, suicide, natural disaster, abortion... death comes for everything. The very breath you are breathing right now will die when you exhale; the world you see will be destroyed and recreated the next time you blink... try to fight it. What is the point of fearing so natural a feature of existence?

I believe in reincarnation of a sort, so I believe when a fetus is aborted, it intentionally selected that experience. It may sound harsh, but consider how harsh the universe is. Bodies are delicate mechanisms, they are designed to be easily given up. If it were so universally important to be indestructible and maintain one limited perspective for a long long long time, nature would have designed us like trees, or planets, or stars, or black holes. But human experiences dwell upon and between these lengthy perspectives, like bugs skittering along the surface of water. Imagine what flies think of the lifespan of people? The brevity of mortality is a blessing, because it offers us the opportunity to have countless experiences in countless places, with countless frequency.

At least that is what helps me sleep comfortably at night.

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posted February 05, 2014 10:22 PM            

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It doesn't make me feel bad at all.
My mum thought about it simply because they were young, although they had discussed the possibility of having kids and were in love. But she changed her mind and here I am lol My dad didn't try to twist her arm in either direction because he felt it should be mostly up to her.

I feel completely neutral about this though.
Some things are probably meant to happen - on a spiritual level. I guess my soul (and my parent's souls) decided this.. on some subconscious level.. or perhaps there is a destiny beyond our 'free will'.

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posted February 10, 2014 05:54 PM            

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I was meant to be here, so I give it no thought.

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posted February 11, 2014 06:46 AM            

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That is wishful thinking, but it's too late for that.

However, I agree there was a reason I was born in my dysfunctional family. If not, I would've been born in a similar one, no harm done. I think prolifers are full of BS and I'm with Pixie on this one. Surprisingly though I personally have not and will not have an abortion if it comes to that, but not because of prolife ideology.

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posted February 11, 2014 10:02 AM            

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And why were you "there" anyway?

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Gotta be somewhere, don't you think?

I'm not sure if fetuses are instantly inhabited by souls by default and I don't consider this possibilty to make myself feel better about the idea of abortion, I just have a feeling it might not be the case.

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posted February 11, 2014 12:30 PM            

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Speaking as a parent. We were given the choice. We chose to persevere. Now we have a kid. He's remains chronically ill. But he's enjoying life to the fullest and he's successful, and wants to do something to help others who are chronically ill. This isn't just about religious ideology. It's also about believing in your children. I don't know how many of you have faced with the abort/no-abort decision. I have. Power to you if you ever been in that situation. Everyone's different and therefore choices are different under different situations.

I personally was delivered under emergency caesarean section. I was two weeks late, way oversized and breached. Both mother and son were in danger of losing life.

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posted February 18, 2014 08:38 PM            

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posted February 19, 2014 08:57 AM            

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I don't think about it, it is inconceivable. I'm here to great things. Then again I'm probably one of the most arrogant people you'll ever meet. #aquarius #leorising

Edit: My mother also had a difficult birth, and I have been in danger of my life numerous times. I just don't dwell on it because I'm arrogant enough to believe that I'm going to live and be great at it.

Believe me when I tell you that is the case for you too. You belong here, and you are a very important part of everyone.

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posted February 21, 2014 05:06 PM            

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Well-said.

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