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Topic: Self-help books
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 5200 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 28, 2014 05:57 PM
Is it me or are they a waste of paper?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 4043 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 28, 2014 06:31 PM
I've found a couple or so helpful (though I only rarely look at them). But I was reminded of most of those I've seen by this: IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 4043 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 28, 2014 06:32 PM
How could I forget this one? IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 4043 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 28, 2014 06:43 PM
I've got to looking at "recent" (that is, as shown for daily viewing on the net to spam you with ads) C&H comics and found this...not exactly like most of the self-help books I've seen (not even the "bad ones") but I have seen a couple, including an infamous one that was popular in the late 20th century, get this bad (and even more if counting articles on the net and blogosphere): IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 2945 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted March 28, 2014 07:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Is it me or are they a waste of paper?
They're a waste of paper. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 8868 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 28, 2014 07:52 PM
They have some useful information but its common sense stuff and the people who read them don't have any common sense so reading a book doesn't do them any good. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8104 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 28, 2014 08:05 PM
Some are some aren't.IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 2945 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted March 28, 2014 08:06 PM
I suppose it depends on what type of self-help books you're talking about...IP: Logged |
MsPrism Knowflake Posts: 1273 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted March 28, 2014 11:30 PM
I view most books as self help. Do they have to be catalogued under "Self Help" or?The book "Making Habits, Breaking Habits: How to make changes that stick" came to me randomly and I think it would be self help but it was mainly citing studies involving the strength of a habit and the strength of our intention to change a habit. How it's been proven that habits require little mental effort and so we can easily bypass an intention precisely because we aren't using most of our brain when we perform some bad habit we want to break. Essentially, to change a habit, you have to change the environment the habit takes place in. Studies have shown that the easiest times to change a habit is when you move house because your environment has changed. Instead of being able to walk into the living room after work and sit on the couch for a few hours watching tv or browsing the internet easily, now your brain has to think "Oh, that wall is there. Where is the couch at? Where are the potato chips I like eating at?" We're more actively thinking so we don't trip, slip or hit our head on something and we can then make that new intention into a habit of this environment. That book was really helpful and I think it would help anyone that wants to change some unhealthy habit by using the methods taught in the book. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 9707 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 29, 2014 12:20 AM
The etc for dummies is my favorite.. Every time I got to borders I'll always check out that aisle IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8104 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 29, 2014 12:30 AM
I like the For Dummies and Idiot's Guides series' formats. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 4043 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 29, 2014 01:28 AM
^^I like those, too. But those typically aren't the self-help genre (even if they do help people to figure things out). The self-help genre is pop psychology (though some may be new age or religious in flavor) and similar to Oprah or Dr. Phil in a book to try to get people to feel better about themselves and their lives while made general (or generic) enough to try to get on the best seller list by appealing to as many people as possible which in turn lessens its effectiveness. Some people buy them the way others join cults, they feel better for awhile, but then they find themselves in a rut again and its on to the next fad. Self-help can be also be on how to "think yourself rich" or diet books or how to get dates. They tend to be filled with questionable anecdotes and what some call "positive affirmations." "I am somebody. I matter. People will be attracted to my positive energy and help me achieve my goals. I am right where I'm supposed to be and not dying for something to eat!" --Cordelia Chase (in Angel) using a self-help book to get discovered as an actress...and in frustration adding her own line after "...where I'm supposed to be..." The worst ones, IMO, are all about "you are broken, you must blame someone before you can recover." (There may be toxic people who hurt or hold someone down but it's actually disempowering to imbue such people with such power in the mind of the reader, and while that's exactly what some customers want as it relieves them of responsibility it can sabotage the efforts of people who sincerely want to change their lives who make the common mistake of trusting a false authority and believing themselves incapable of helping themselves as a result.) They occasionally do real harm to the innocent who never even heard of the book as the book encourages actions to be taken against whoever should be (rightly, wrongly, bit of both) to blame which ripple out to harm even more (and sometimes the reader has deeply regretted such actions). That's not to say they're all bad. Generally speaking, they're most likely to be at least somewhat helpful if they're very specific, like say bullying in the office, but that limits marketability so publishers prefer to go with something a little more Barnum that grabs attention with showmanship and can draw in the most people, and I think it's likely if they actually thought a book could truly revolutionize people's lives so that they didn't need their products anymore then they wouldn't publish it (if they have to choose between your continued business and your self-fulfillment that means no more need of their products, which do you think these businesses are going to choose?). IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 9707 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 29, 2014 01:39 AM
LOL I wonder what signs are into that.Because I don't really see anything that needs fixing, I might have some quirks but that's kinda what makes me... well me. It's not like I'm hurting my future or anything severe. IP: Logged |