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Jo B
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posted April 07, 2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Death of loved ones/friends is very sad but I believe very transformative on a personal level. How has it changed you as a person? Has it added spirituality and compassion to your life, just made you sad, or maybe made you change how you approach life yourself?

My father dying a few years ago left me sad that he had somehow never fulfilled his potential or truly found himself (although I believe he was getting there, it was just cut short from cancer). I left a poem in his coffin about what he meant to me as a father. A psychic has since told me he saw the note.

Burying my dog several years ago was absolutely heart-breaking. Not having a child myself (well, I did miscarry once), it just brought all that pain to a head for me. The loss of someone that had depended on you for their life.

Another very poignant loss for me was a 35 year old musical colleague a year ago (also from cancer) who was the definition of positivity. He had a real go-getting, enthusiastic attitude about life, was humorous, fun and clever. People felt his support. At his funeral I just realized that he made the most of what he had (and his abilities), and wasn't scared of pursuing his dreams. It was a good lesson to pass on to others.

Anyway... (think I'm welling up a bit here! lol). Anyone else?

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charlie
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posted April 07, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I came home to my dead room mate and 5 minutes later his parents rang on doorbell. They had flown in from Europe to take my roomie on vacation. So he picked that day to off himself and put me in the middle.

There were pills and drugs allover and his body was all "plastic", cold and blue, his mother hysterical, his father catatonic and my live in bf said it was my fault because I hadn't gotten home soon enough from work (not sure why I had to rush home for but I was blamed anyway).

Either way, that same week I lost my job, my boyfriend and my room mate.

It was my 1st Saturn Return but I believe my Cap Moon took me through that mess. I fixed what could be fixed and moved on. I believe I cried 6 tears.

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Jo B
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posted April 07, 2014 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG Charlie, that sounds horrific! I don't know what to say. It must have been awful for you. And yes, why should you have taken the heat for something totally beyond your control?

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posted April 07, 2014 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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charlie
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posted April 07, 2014 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
OMG Charlie, that sounds horrific! I don't know what to say. It must have been awful for you. And yes, why should you have taken the heat for something totally beyond your control?

People lay sh1t on me a lot. Because apparently I look like I can "deal". And I do deal. It's hard to strike a balance between going bitter and remain open for human interaction altogether.

I do want to be a psychologist but it's harder when issues like those hit close to home.

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posted April 07, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well...

I'm only in my early twenties, but I think I've become a little desensitized to death. It's just been absolutely everywhere. I probably went to a dozen funerals before ever attending my first wedding.

So I have become very accepting of it. Mostly I grieve for a day or two and then accept. I don't stop, I don't pause. It doesn't mean that I don't love them or that I'm not sad, but I have really had to learn the necessity of moving on.

Mostly what I find the most difficult is the longing and missing. It's worse than the death part. I can deal with death as I believe in the spirit world anyway, but it's the knowledge that I have a whole long life ahead of me with allot of separation.

This is something everyone has to go through though. As long as there is love, there will be loss. It is the natural cycle of things.

I have learned to cope through living in the moment. Never looking ahead... And never looking back. It helps me allot. Just pure acceptance that it's out of my control and that I need to get on with things.

I have also accepted the temporary state of life and that my own could end at any given moment. I have had a couple of close calls abroad. I have also lost allot of people my own age due to a mass murder a couple of years ago. I was supposed to be there too, so it really hit home for me on more than one level. That took longer for me to accept (it was just so senseless), but I have settled with the knowledge that life is precious and I am so so lucky with what I have. I just pray that I shall be allowed to complete my destiny before I go. There can be no time to waste if I don't know that I have it. So that is my main prayer to the universe. To allow me enough time to complete what I feel I was put here to do. It's not a path that I can afford to shy away from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bag1gUxuU0g

Sadly, I think I can come across as a little insensitive or cold. I'm sorry for that. But I can't afford in my life to dwell on the negative, and as I said, it has desensitized me. I have a need to distance myself from grief and all that whereas most people hug it close to their chest. I'm not the person to come to for that. There's just nothing I can say or contribute when I feel like telling people to just... Get over it. Or.. Contemplate on it in solitude or just focus on something else. It's all I can say. I can't relate to anything else.

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Sibyl
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posted April 07, 2014 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
People lay sh1t on me a lot. Because apparently I look like I can "deal". And I do deal. It's hard to strike a balance between going bitter and remain open for human interaction altogether.

I do want to be a psychologist but it's harder when issues like those hit close to home.


Well that is something I can relate to, Charlie :-)

You learn to deal because you have to.

I know I feel pretty invincible at this point, although I used to feel like I was Job (bible) and just wondering what would happen next.

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posted April 07, 2014 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My son died and I surrendered my life to God. I never thought I would be an astrologer. I never thought I would be doing anything "weird"
I just wanted to do whatever it was I was supposed to do.
I chuckle when I see Christian Psychic. I am a nice Jewish girl who went bad

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dadoo
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posted April 07, 2014 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2014 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
People lay sh1t on me a lot. Because apparently I look like I can "deal". And I do deal. It's hard to strike a balance between going bitter and remain open for human interaction altogether.

I do want to be a psychologist but it's harder when issues like those hit close to home.


That sucks, but psychology does explore that. Anger is a very common reaction to death when denial is no longer a luxury (and there are cases of people in such strong denial that they went to a funeral confused why s/he couldn't see the dead person alive and wondering where s/he was), and anger can lash out at others with sometimes terrible results given that those lashed out at may themselves be wrestling with the extremes of grief (including anger) as well as being particularly vulnerable right then.

For what it's worth, it wasn't rational, and assuming the parents were rational people then they probably realized that after they had some time to process their grief and felt terrible for saying what they did to you.

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PixieJane
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posted April 07, 2014 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
Death of loved ones/friends is very sad but I believe very transformative on a personal level. How has it changed you as a person? Has it added spirituality and compassion to your life, just made you sad, or maybe made you change how you approach life yourself?

Yes, to all. More accurate to say it contributed to it. I've experienced more than one death, and one haunted me for years, I'd actually surprise myself by crying many years later when I thought I was over it. Another, despite being more of an acquaintance who left a major impression on me rather than a loved one, inspired me to find ways to hopefully help grant his spirit peace for years (I even incorporated his life and death in a fic of mine hoping in some way that it might help, though I did adapt it enough to be relevant to the story), and he also got me to thinking about the why of human evil in society, had it not been for him I may not have even thought much on it (but again, there were other contributing factors). I don't feel like going into the details, however.

I was very glad that when I found out that my granny had a pulmonary embolism that she would survive it. I was furious that no one called me over it. I sold a lot of stuff to get the bus ticket to rush there to take care of things and see her in the hospital terrified it would be the last time I saw her.

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posted April 07, 2014 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though one that affected me wasn't a loved one or human. He was a very independent tomcat who wouldn't let anyone get close to him. The cat lady in the neighborhood kept trying to catch him so she could have him neutered (he actually CHASED her off once for doing that, even big dogs learned to fear that cat) and he got to prefer my fickle charity (though I saw him hunt, he was very good at even catching insects out of the air) as I didn't try to pet him, let alone domesticate him, I just left food. Then I was surprised to come home one day to see him at my door. I opened it and he walked right in and I could see something was very wrong. Looking up his symptoms I determined it was antifreeze poisoning and quickly called the vets as it was late afternoon just before the Thanksgiving weekend and the cat had only hours at most to be treated in time (I feared it was already too late).

If it had simply been too late then I'd have been a little sad but quickly put it behind me. But what I got instead was every single vet office I called playing stupid who just wanted to go home ASAP and not deal with a cat they'd never seen before. I got desperate enough I started to offer to pay double to see him immediately, but then it occurs to me now that the double would go to the vet or office not the one working the desk so maybe it would've been different if I'd instead tried bribing the one I was talking to. It was bad enough (one reason I think they were only pretending) in that when like one offered to see him the very next Monday I asked her, "Don't you understand that he'll be dead by then?" They HAD to. Some would even wish me happy thanksgiving knowing I had a dying cat on my hands and they were refusing to take my money to help me.

I gave him a warm lap when he'd accept it and a blanket in a box I made for him checking on him frequently. I found him dead that night at about 2 AM (Thanksgiving) but at least the cat lady gave me a place to bury him and we both held a funeral of sorts for him. Though I figured I was wasting my time I did print up some fliers about using safer types of antifreeze and passed them around the neighborhood. But that was like the straw that broke the camel's back and my view on my own species, both in intelligence and inherent goodness, plummeted and never fully returned which changed my views and how I behaved toward others in many ways, some subtle, some not so much.

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posted April 08, 2014 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Somehow it helped me to learn to get over things... One person once told me to "Just go home and eat n sleep, the next day my death will be in the past, the next year it'll be a distant memory".

At first it made me afraid of loving people, coz I felt that if I loved them a whole lot and they were ripped from me then a part of me would be lost forever. Then it made me wanting to enjoy life more, to do what I want, to express my love and affection for my loved ones so there will be little to no regrets..

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Jo B
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posted April 08, 2014 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting stories everyone. Thanks for being so open. Sometimes it's painful to recount experiences like this I know.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 08, 2014 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My daughter passed away in my arms.

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Jo B
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posted April 08, 2014 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I'm so cappy
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posted April 08, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread reminded me of this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ3aiM8K6D0

I haven't been affected by anyone's death to a great extent so far but it'll probably happen at some point and it already scares me. I don't know if I could ever get over losing someone I loved.

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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Jo B
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posted April 08, 2014 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
This thread reminded me of this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ3aiM8K6D0
I don't know if I could ever get over losing someone I loved.


It can and does often strengthen you as a character though cappy. Makes you more empathetic too I think

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