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Kerosene
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posted May 05, 2014 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People who are bi can weigh in on dating and who has it harder.

The negatives and positives are about the same.

With boys it's more about your appearance. How good you look and I will admit not sometimes not feeling attractive enough.which is not how I feel around women. Which is why gay men stereotypically depicted as being fitness obsessed. Also other things like feeling objectified.

With girls little things like that are not important it's your personality that goes a long way but there are a lot if social expectations guys are a lot more laid back as long as you look good it does not matter if your family oriented etc

I will Hipster Aries or Aqua girls just blow all the other girls out if the water. They are laid back and fun, a lot less expectations.

Speaking of water, water dominant men sensitivity and depth is attractive.

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posted May 05, 2014 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At the end of the day it's really about you and your preference in partners it's not like all men are superficial and stupid and not all girls are princesses with too many expectations. If traditional stereotypes of each gender annoy you date people that are unconventional

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posted May 05, 2014 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think girls can be just as visual as guys. Not meaning to brag but it has been my experience that some women can be very sexually aggressive if they think a guy is hot. I have had women send me nude photos (without me even asking) and beg me to send them pics of "The D". I'm not into that though and I would never send those types of pics. The whole thing freaks me out.

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posted May 05, 2014 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

You need to find a way to trade. I've never heard of a single woman beg for a pic of "the D," not even the ones obsessed with sex and hot looks (not that I doubt you). And then there's you who finds that freaks you out when so many men OL are constantly talking about what they're doing with their penises or what turns them on and all too many send unasked for dick pix or telling women to expose themselves. Hmm, that reminds me...a little gender reversal (keep in mind it's comedy, though I'm sure on your planet it's normal):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQnIJ-ljctk

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posted May 05, 2014 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm all for sex but not the whole nude photo thing,its just weird to me. Its extremely wreckless too, you never know who will wind up with it. Would you really want your naked form being seen by strangers without your consent? Because thats what happens 9 times out of 10.. Guys usually show that stuff to their friends.

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posted May 05, 2014 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've told girls that if they're going to send "sexy" pix of themselves to some guy they think they can trust that they should at least get a pic of him in a dress and makeup first (generally speaking guys will fear that getting out far more than one of them naked). Then they have some leverage. 'Course I'd advise anyone against doing any of that (girls can be as cruel OL with pix as any guy, too, and that includes the one that loved you yesterday but hates you today), but some people, kids especially, just don't think the consequences through.

And while I'm at it, cover the cam on your computer, they're easily used to spy on you. Heck, one virus (ransomware) will actually hijack it to take your pick and show it to you claiming to be the FBI and you will wire money to the following account if you don't want to be arrested (and amazing how often these absurd scams seem to work). I really have no idea why anyone thought it would be a good idea to include a cam on the computer itself as it just BEGS to be used without your consent, and more than one female has been blackmailed over pix taking of her with her own computer that she never intended. Like by this guy:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/man-who-sextorted-miss-teen- usa-gets-18-months-prison-n54876

And some hackers are so pathetic they'll yell at babies by hijacking baby monitors:
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/man-hacks-monitor-screams-baby-girl-n91546

'Course the really fun stuff is how automated cars and even home security systems are getting, where you can control them from your phone. Hackers find it all too easy to take control of that, like with cars:
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2 011/08/19/hacked-in-60-seconds-thieves-could-steal-cars-via-text-messages/

Okay, never mind me, it's obviously time for me to go to bed. Just saying, even if you never sent nude pix of yourself they may be OL anyway. I have no idea why this doesn't occur to people. The very first thing when I got my new computer was block the cam!

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posted May 05, 2014 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I think girls can be just as visual as guys. Not meaning to brag but it has been my experience that some women can be very sexually aggressive if they think a guy is hot. I have had women send me nude photos (without me even asking) and beg me to send them pics of "The D". I'm not into that though and I would never send those types of pics. The whole thing freaks me out.

I am so not visual. Maybe, it is the Venus in Gemini which is all about the mind.


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posted May 05, 2014 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I'm not visual either.

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posted May 05, 2014 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both sexes do have it hard in different ways.

Speaking as a woman that dated a lot - I can convey what many women face, IN GENERAL, in the dating scene.


If you have sex with someone too quickly you are a sl_t. If you wait too long to have sex you are a prude.

If you are over 30 or 35 years old you are past your expiration date. Men your age and older want to date the 20 year olds anyway.

If you are 1 pound or more overweight you are a fattie and better stop eating. Oh but if you only have a salad on a date most guys find that annoying because they like girls that can EAT. If you are not skinny you are basically a pointless human being and no guy will ever love you unless he is desperate and can't snag someone skinnier than you are. Men that date overweight women are always looking for something skinnier / better because right now they are just settling.

Your measurements should be a perfect hourglass. OR you should have tiny hips, tiny waist and huge breasts which biologically is extremely rare which is why implants are so popular.

Shave your pits, shave your legs, shave your bikini... sometimes more than your bikini. Sometimes maybe you should shave it all to look like a child. If you don't, you are either a hippie or a feminist and both those things are bad.

If you don't wear makeup you're a hippie. If you wear too much you're a high maintenance or a hooker.

If you are nice you'll be walked all over. If you stand up for yourself you're a _itch.

If you're a feminist and want equal pay for equal work you are probably a lesbian and hate men.

If you have many sexual partners or if you already have a child you are 'used up' or damaged goods.

If you make too much money, have a high IQ or are too highly educated you are intimidating.

You should split the bill on a date with a guy. You should let him pay the entire bill because it'll challenge his manliness to do otherwise.


I'm not saying any of the above is actually TRUE but it's what is often portrayed in the media and by a lot of men (the immature single ones) that way. It's a mad mad mad world out there. It can be difficult to keep your head on straight and not let it get to you. I'm SO GLAD I am past the dating world.

ETA: Don't even get me started on the pic thing. I've had guys send me "D" pics and I've laughed them out of the house. I'd never ask for that and I'd certainly never send one of myself to someone. It's ridiculous.

NO woman I know wants a "D" picture. Not even the adventurous ones - unless it's to share with their girlfriends and laugh about it.

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posted May 05, 2014 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, both genders have their challenges in the dating world. It is not easy! But I just wish people would just understand there is a wide variety of people out there and the chances are quite HIGH of finding someone to love you just the way you are. I mean, even serial killers have fans. You just have to find your niche and not blame the rest of the world for not being it. It bothers me that everyone takes rejection so damn personally. It does not invalidate you as a sexual being, it simply means you are not the right one for that person. Plenty of other people will find you attractive. There are chubby chasers, stick lovers, people who are into VERY weird fetishes and sexual/romantic practices and lifestyles, religious dating sites, pet lovers dating sites, really possibilities are endless.

This is why I support like with like versus opposites attract. But I am a narcissist, so naturally I like and appreciate people who mirror my qualities.


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posted May 05, 2014 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 05, 2014 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
But I just wish people would just understand there is a wide variety of people out there and the chances are quite HIGH of finding someone to love you just the way you are. I mean, even serial killers have fans. You just have to find your niche and not blame the rest of the world for not being it. It bothers me that everyone takes rejection so damn personally. It does not invalidate you as a sexual being, it simply means you are not the right one for that person. Plenty of other people will find you attractive.


So well said <3

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posted May 05, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think if a person has a hard time with either sex, it is in the chart. I have all good Sun aspects and have an easy time making friends with men.

I have an almost Unaspected Moon with a 9 degree conj to Mars and a 7-8 degree trine with Venus.


The asteroid Nemesis is conjunct my Moon. It takes me a very long time to trust a women.

This shows betrayal by the mother.

When I do have female friends, it seems like it is a Scorpio women because they seem to value loyalty like I do.



I think people have these kind of biases and the chart will show them.

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posted May 05, 2014 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I mean, even serial killers have fans.

You gave me hope, thank you *weeps*

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posted May 05, 2014 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MoonWith & Dancing Maenad

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posted May 05, 2014 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You gave me hope, thank you *weeps*


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posted May 05, 2014 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's interesting. I hadn't thought of that but then I'm not very good at all with astrology... irony being where we are chatting right now.

I've usually had an easier time making friends with men too. I have a couple really good female friends but it takes me longer to trust them as well. I'm going to go take a look at my moon!

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posted May 05, 2014 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When one gets into any situation, one can understand it by the charts. If someone can't stand you, the charts will show why. If someone feels close to you, the charts will show why.
The charts are one of the greatest gifts God ever gave man to help man in his journey on this earth imo

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posted May 05, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Oh yeahhh, doesn't AG have Moon in hard aspect to Venus? I've met a lot of people with this aspect and before even seeing their charts, I could always tell they have it based on what they share about their relationship life.

Still no excuse for the misogyny though, but it is a factor as to why relationships with women may be difficult for you.

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posted May 05, 2014 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still no excuse for the misogyny though

Geez Louise. He does not have misogyny. He has issues with his sense of being a man and how that works in the world of women.

When people throw around labels, they should throw them around when they fit.

It is an awful thing to be labeled. I am sure you wouldn't like it, as none of us would.

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posted May 05, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Still no excuse for the misogyny though

Geez Louise. He does not have misogyny. He has issues with his sense of being a man and how that works in the world of women.

When people throw around labels, they should throw them around when they fit.

It is an awful thing to be labeled. I am sure you wouldn't like it, as none of us would.


World of women? Mmmk.
You're coddling him, his sense of being a Man has nothing to do with women.

And isn't there a saying about when you point one finger you have 3 pointing right back? Weren't you just commenting to Faith about her "bigotry"? Isn't that labeling? In my opinion, that label didn't fit her either, but I guess that doesn't apply to you or am I wrong???

Also, people are going to label and mislabel you all the time. It's life. I get it more than you'd imagine based off of things that I can't even change such as the color of my skin. But can I give you a little tip? If the shoe doesn't fit then why care?

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, most people are going to say it's a duck. It's clear based off of AG's repeated actions and behavior in the forum as to why I mentioned his misogyny in the first place.

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posted May 05, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 05, 2014 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Chiemi

And thanks for noticing I'm not a bigot!

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posted May 05, 2014 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I've never heard of a single woman beg for a pic of "the D," not even the ones obsessed with sex and hot looks (not that I doubt you).

I totally doubt him. Has anyone reading this ever heard of another woman acting like that?

I've never heard of it.

Guys, we don't want to see your sexed-up selfies

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posted May 05, 2014 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I totally doubt him. Has ANYONE reading this ever heard of another woman acting like that, EVER?

Never heard of it.

Guys, we don't want to see your sexed-up selfies



Faith, no offense but you are a little bit out of the loop on this one. Women of my generation are quiet a bit different from yours. And yes lots of women my age will send a guy nude photos if they like him/are attracted to him

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