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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There has been a lot of tension brewing in this forum (and spilling into others) for the past few weeks.

How about we start with a clean slate?
It's easy to complain/critisize which adds to the negativity, yet we need to be the change we want to see materialise and work on solutions instead of contributing to the negativity.

Lecturing about forgiveness or saying you forgive is different to actually practicing the true Essence of Forgiveness. I'm guilty of it, too.
Forgiveness means not to dwell on old grudges; it means to let go. LET GO. For your own well being and yourself without expectation from the other.

I intend to honour this. Too much has impacted on my health and mental state. It honestly isn't worth the internal suffering.

As of Now, EACH and EVERY one of you will be seen with a fresh pair of Eyes and Open Heart.

I hope many more will follow.

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Faith
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posted June 04, 2014 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sublime.

I'll try and keep up with you but can't promise anything...it doesn't feel like "my time" to become that noble, frankly.

But I completely admire your intentions and will try.

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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Faith. When you are ready.

Giving it a shot is better than not trying at all. Thank you for at least giving it consideration.

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Doux Rêve
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posted June 04, 2014 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for this, Charmaine.


It's time to change the dynamics in this Forum.


Imagine yourself walking in this lovely park... Breathe in the fresh air, look around at all the beauty of Nature. Feel its peaceful energy in your body and mind...

And only post something after imagining yourself there.

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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Doux,
Overwhelming beauty! Gorgeous pic and only good feelings emerge from visualization.

Your Pisces shows.

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Doux Rêve
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posted June 04, 2014 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, glad you like it.

I don't have any Pisces... just a dash of Neptune here and there. =^.^= (kitty face!)

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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha! It felt watery so I assumed Pisces! *face palm*

Scorpio? *it has to be*

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Doux Rêve
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posted June 04, 2014 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep!

Who would've thought, we can be marshmallows, too!

...Or maybe it's not the Scorpio.

(notice how the colors totally fit the LL theme... hehe)

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posted June 04, 2014 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Charmaine

@Doux, You crack me up!

OMG the marshmallows totally match the screen!

*edit

My Pisces shows too much sometimes.

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Doux Rêve
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posted June 04, 2014 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
omg that totally awakens the hippie inside me, Faith. :'D (perfect for lifting the mood on this rainy day)

<group hug>


Okay gotta run now. See you later, ladies. x

ETA. Noo why did you edit it out!! It was good!!

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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux, you have proven that the site is pink! Thank you marshmallows!

Yes, Scorps can be marshmallows too. *not to forget that again*

Faith, what song did you post?

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posted June 04, 2014 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charmainec:

Lecturing about forgiveness or saying you forgive is different to actually practicing the true Essence of Forgiveness. I'm guilty of it, too.
Forgiveness means not to dwell on old grudges; it means to let go. LET GO. For your own well being and yourself without expectation from the other.


I second that.
And from experience I know it is not easy either. The words are said easily, but to liberate yourself, the forgiveness needs to take place in the heart.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 04, 2014 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, with some people on here, I would accept a sincere repentance, by e mail, before I could be reconciled to them.

For me, forgiveness is between God and me. Reconciliation is between myself and another person.

That is my personal standard and point of view, Charmaine, but I honor your sentiments and know they are from a sincere heart.

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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I second that.
And from experience I know it is not easy either. The words are said easily, but to liberate yourself, the forgiveness needs to take place in the heart.


Quite, Ceri.

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I'm so cappy
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posted June 04, 2014 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
For me, with some people on here, I would accept a sincere repentance, by e mail, before I could be reconciled to them.

For me, forgiveness is between God and me. Reconciliation is between myself and another person.

That is my personal standard and point of view, Charmaine, but I honor your sentiments and know they are from a sincere heart.


Understood, Ami. That is your prefered method.

Our concepts about forgiveness differs. I wouldn't expect an apology from those I forgive. For me, if there was bad blood then both parties played their role.

Maybe I should have added that I take responsibilty for my role if I caused any hurt to anyone here. But I have no conditions attached to those whom I forgive and that includes you, Ami.


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posted June 04, 2014 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charmainec:
Faith, what song did you post?

I listened to this song after I read your OP. It just put me in that mood. I think the message can apply in a general way, like how love and sincerity tend to elicit the same from others.

Open Heart Song

Deleted it because I thought maybe the lyrics would seem "off." But Doux understood where I was coming from, so...maybe others will, too. If not, blame my hyperactive Neptune.

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posted June 04, 2014 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Charmaine. For my part, I would prefer discuss this with you, privately, than on the open board, if you care to

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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, you're tarty! I like it and get it too!

Thank you for sharing it.

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posted June 04, 2014 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edited this a few times, trying to get my thoughts straight...
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I tend to not even think in terms of forgiveness, and especially not with people online. For what it's worth, that is just not a word that typically crosses my mind.

I guess I don't really think about forgiveness...because I feel like my Pisces moon compels me to do a lot of that automatically. Empathy sort of naturally implies a level forgiveness: "I sense where you were coming from."

And I don't think I have anything to forgive anyone for, not here. People just do what they do, some of it annoys the heck out of me, but I don't hold any kind of grudge. I just notice repetition of what I consider problems, and temporary cessation of those problems....hoping they might stay at bay for longer and longer periods of time.

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Just musing:

In a way, forum relationships remain static by virtue of each person's ongoing, willing involvement here. You will see people again whether you like them or not, there will be lots of chances to get their attention and get along (or not.) Whereas in real life, relationships are more dynamic and may require at least "going through the motions" of forgiveness just to be able to hear from someone again, or not have them cut you off altogether.

I mean to say, many of us are in daily contact, so that may require more flexibility and patience than some "real life" relationships where we may not see or hear from a person quite as often. Here, I think "the proof is in the pudding" plays a bigger role than in many real relationships, because there is more interaction, more "pudding."

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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem, Ami.

You know where to find me.

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posted June 04, 2014 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charmainec:
Faith, you're tarty! I like it and get it too!

Thank you for sharing it.


I hope tarty is a good thing?

You're welcome, happy you liked it.

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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A fresh start meant forgiveness to me.
As in the original post: letting go and starting clean.

This may be a vitual community but there are real people behind it. Real bonds/frienships form. Our experiences are different, I suppose.

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charmainec
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posted June 04, 2014 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tarty is good. It means crazy/silly/weird in a good way.

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posted June 04, 2014 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noooooo! LL is purple.

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