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aquaguy91
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posted June 15, 2014 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I have been talking to a girl that I met on a dating site for about a month now. We talked on the site and on the phone for about a week or so before we met up. Before we met up it seemed like we had really strong chemistry and I was attracted to the way she looked in her pics but as it turned out that chemistry didn't exist when we met up in real life. For starters she doesn't look anything like her pictures led me to believe, and I am not attracted to her at all. And more then that there just wasn't a spark when we met up and conversation didn't flow as easily as we thought it would... She immediately picked up on the fact that I wasn't quiet feeling it and suggested that we should just be friends and I agreed. She is a great person and I really do care about her but not in a romantic or sexual way. The problem is I can tell she is not ok with just being friends despite her insistence that she is. And to make matters worse I am insanely attracted to her best friend and I suspect she feels the same way but she isn't really letting on like she is because she doesn't want to hurt her friend who has feelings for me. It just seems like me and her friend end up talking and laughing more when we are hanging out while she is intensely shy and quiet in my presence. We just have more in common and share the same offbeat sense of humor. Plus I have a hard time not staring when I see her in a bathing suit . So I don't know what to do with this situation.. I would love to be just friends with this girl but I know she has feelings for me and I might be starting to develop feelings for her best friend. Its just really complicated at this point.. What should I do?

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posted June 15, 2014 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow That is a hard one

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posted June 15, 2014 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the best friend likes you, and you aren't dating anyone and no one is dating you, you have every right to date the best friend. It's just life. You do not owe this girl your soul. She will not like it but she needs to learn how to deal with these situations as they appear over and over in life. She needs to learn how to cope with it. She needs to realize she should go on and find the right one for her. It's called resilience. The last thing you should do is go along with her because you feel sorry for her or guilty about liking someone else. This will just make it worse as time goes on. If you must tell her, be kind about it. It's a tough situation since it's her best friend. Be optimistic and sweet. Give her a pep talk. Pep talks are great and even if people seem to not appreciate them at the time, they will later. Try to develop a "life coach" type personality that can guide and mentor others.

If you just cannot deal with the idea of dating someone's best friend, just walk away entirely and find another situation.

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posted June 15, 2014 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Go for it AG!

Just keep in mind she is likely to remind you of the date with the mutual friend constantly.

Such is life

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posted June 15, 2014 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why you didn't like her? Too tall? Too short? Too fat? Too thin? Too pale? Too dark? Too much rouge? Not enough at all?


My intuition tells me that romance between you and her best friend won't last. She's going to disappoint you .. again. You keep chasing for a certain type of woman you know who is not compatible with your views.

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posted June 15, 2014 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Why you didn't like her? Too tall? Too short? Too fat? Too thin? Too pale? Too dark? Too much rouge? Not enough at all?


My intuition tells me that romance between you and her best friend won't last. She's going to disappoint you .. again. You keep chasing for a certain type of woman you know who is not compatible with your views.



Well she doesn't look anything like she does in her pictures.. All I will say is she has to be a pro at photoshopping her pics and making herself look more "conventionally attractive". But I do like her, just not in a romantic or sexual way.
And I'm not even romantically involved with her friend yet and I don't know if it is even going to happen. I just know that I feel chemistry with her and I'm physically attracted to her and I suspect she feels the same, but I can't be too sure because she is going to downplay it to avoid upsetting her friend if she really is attracted to me.

And I do not have a "type". I go for all sorts of girls, I am an Aqua Venus after all. You may be right but if she ended up disappointing me chances are her friend would end up disappointing me too.. As they say birds of a feather flock together and there is a reason they have been friends since grade school.

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posted June 15, 2014 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
If the best friend likes you, and you aren't dating anyone and no one is dating you, you have every right to date the best friend. It's just life. You do not owe this girl your soul. She will not like it but she needs to learn how to deal with these situations as they appear over and over in life. She needs to learn how to cope with it. She needs to realize she should go on and find the right one for her. It's called resilience. The last thing you should do is go along with her because you feel sorry for her or guilty about liking someone else. This will just make it worse as time goes on. If you must tell her, be kind about it. It's a tough situation since it's her best friend. Be optimistic and sweet. Give her a pep talk. Pep talks are great and even if people seem to not appreciate them at the time, they will later. Try to develop a "life coach" type personality that can guide and mentor others.

If you just cannot deal with the idea of dating someone's best friend, just walk away entirely and find another situation.


Oh trust me, I don't plan on dating her because I feel sorry for her or anything like that. I enjoy being her friend and that's as far as that goes. So I should go for it? Thats what everyone I talk to says I should do, but I don't know if I can. I just don't know if I could get past the guilt of hurting this girl like that. Plus whenever I think about it I imagine how it would affect me if a girl I had feelings for hooked up with my good friend right in front of my face and to be quiet honest it would hurt me and **** me off. I would feel doubly betrayed but I would be more angry at my friend. So I don't know what to do.. I don't want to hurt this girl or create a rift in their friendship. Maybe its best if I just wait it out for awhile..

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posted June 15, 2014 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Respect her and her friend and don't date either one.
Simple as that.
You get involved in a situation with one then you're in the middle of both. Is she worth ruining friendships over?

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posted June 15, 2014 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Respect her and her friend and don't date either one.
Simple as that.
You get involved in a situation with one then you're in the middle of both. Is she worth ruining friendships over?

That's the mindset I have right now. But at the same time I realize that my conscious and sense of morality is what usually ends up making me a loser in the dating game. The fact is most people are extremely selfish and go after what they want aggressively, consequences and other peoples feelings be d*mned. Most people would willingly break up friendships or a family if it meant they could get with the person they like at the time, if they even think about any of that stuff at all. But I do think of all that stuff and I do consider other peoples feelings, and that's part of the reason I end up sitting on the sideline most of the time. I have to atleast consider being selfish in this situation because I never do.

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posted June 15, 2014 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am somewhat in a similar situation. I am VERY attracted to my friend's friend and my friend is in love with me.

Now, nothing will happen with my friend's friend and I because timing is way off (for me) but I came clean and told my friend. He wasnt happy, at all, but I feel OK even knowing that I might have lost a friend and that I won't be dating the other guy any time soon.

I think it's important to always say what one needs to say, despite possible outcomes. That way you won't have any regrets.

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posted June 15, 2014 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
That's the mindset I have right now. But at the same time I realize that my conscious and sense of morality is what usually ends up making me a loser in the dating game. The fact is most people are extremely selfish and go after what they want aggressively, consequences and other peoples feelings be d*mned. Most people would willingly break up friendships or a family if it meant they could get with the person they like at the time, if they even think about any of that stuff at all. But I do think of all that stuff and I do consider other peoples feelings, and that's part of the reason I end up sitting on the sideline most of the time. I have to atleast consider being selfish in this situation because I never do.

If that's what you think than you're no better than those pricks who are like that. Have respect for yourself first. Words spread like fire. You go after her friend and than you guys don't work then what? You'll be known as the guy who goes after his dates friends and then no one will ever want to date you. I guess I'm not understanding what the rush is? Are you desperate? Are you that desperate? If the original daters friend is her true friend she wouldn't say anything and you shouldn't either. Keep your morals, don't disrespect yourself over some girl who clearly isn't a good friend. That in itself speaks volumes and shows what kind of a person she is.

I'm no way shape or form trying to be mean or rude. I wanna help and just telling you like I see it. And I am after all a woman.

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posted June 15, 2014 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If that's what you think than you're no better than those pricks who are like that. Have respect for yourself first. Words spread like fire. You go after her friend and than you guys don't work then what? You'll be known as the guy who goes after his dates friends and then no one will ever want to date you. I guess I'm not understanding what the rush is? Are you desperate? Are you that desperate? If the original daters friend is her [b]true friend she wouldn't say anything and you shouldn't either. Keep your morals, don't disrespect yourself over some girl who clearly isn't a good friend. That in itself speaks volumes. [/B]

I never said I am going to do it. But I would be lying to myself if I said I dont want to be as emotionally reckless as most people are these days, its a ruthless and cutthroat world out there and if you have a conscious and are a team player you are already losing the race, that's just a fact. This is true in every area of life and the dating game is no exception. But in all honesty I doubt I could do it, I just don't have it in me.. If anything I will wait till the girl moves on and "maybe" try pursuing her friend then.

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posted June 15, 2014 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'd be lying to yourself if you did it. You're better than that. She's not worth it. What's wrong with being a team player where it's needed? That area being one of them. Even if you and her friend did date you'd always see the original girl you dated. So it'd be almost like dating them both.

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posted June 15, 2014 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh trust me, I don't plan on dating her because I feel sorry for her or anything like that. I enjoy being her friend and that's as far as that goes. So I should go for it? Thats what everyone I talk to says I should do, but I don't know if I can. I just don't know if I could get past the guilt of hurting this girl like that. Plus whenever I think about it I imagine how it would affect me if a girl I had feelings for hooked up with my good friend right in front of my face and to be quiet honest it would hurt me and **** me off. I would feel doubly betrayed but I would be more angry at my friend. So I don't know what to do.. I don't want to hurt this girl or create a rift in their friendship. Maybe its best if I just wait it out for awhile..

Very wise, Aqua!

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posted June 15, 2014 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You'd be lying to yourself if you did it. You're better than that. She's not worth it. What's wrong with being a team player where it's needed? That area being one of them. Even if you and her friend did date you'd always see the original girl you dated. So it'd be almost like dating them both.

Well I agree with you, but most people are not team players. Sure they will pretend to be your friend and act like they have your best interests at heart but they will stab you in the back as soon as they get an opportunity. This is something I have found out being in the workforce for 6 years. It doesn't matter where you work or how low or high status the job is people are going to be out to get you in your workplace.

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posted June 15, 2014 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well I agree with you, but most people are not team players. Sure they will pretend to be your friend and act like they have your best interests at heart but they will stab you in the back as soon as they get an opportunity. This is something I have found out being in the workforce for 6 years. It doesn't matter where you work or how low or high status the job is people are going to be out to get you in your workplace.

Yes I know and understand that but who cares about those people. Just be the best person you can be and you'll have all that you need. The main problem with people nowadays is following. Everyone wants to be like everyone else. Be the leader. Set the example, lead the stage.

Throwing in the towel. I've said all that I felt I needed to. Whatever you decide is your choice and what you'll have to live with. You're an Aquarius the guilt will lead you into making the right one just like the rest of air signs lol.

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posted June 15, 2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
[b]Why you didn't like her? Too tall? Too short? Too fat? Too thin? Too pale? Too dark? Too much rouge? Not enough at all?


My intuition tells me that romance between you and her best friend won't last. She's going to disappoint you .. again. You keep chasing for a certain type of woman you know who is not compatible with your views.



Well she doesn't look anything like she does in her pictures.. All I will say is she has to be a pro at photoshopping her pics and making herself look more "conventionally attractive". But I do like her, just not in a romantic or sexual way.
And I'm not even romantically involved with her friend yet and I don't know if it is even going to happen. I just know that I feel chemistry with her and I'm physically attracted to her and I suspect she feels the same, but I can't be too sure because she is going to downplay it to avoid upsetting her friend if she really is attracted to me.

And I do not have a "type". I go for all sorts of girls, I am an Aqua Venus after all. You may be right but if she ended up disappointing me chances are her friend would end up disappointing me too.. As they say birds of a feather flock together and there is a reason they have been friends since grade school.[/B][/QUOTE]

She was not as "hawt" as you thought she would be, but her friend is, thusly AG goes with the friend.

Now keep in mind, I'm not saying good nor bad, more than likely that is the way that it is..after all romance, love, sex, what have you has been distilled down to a sort of business transaction replete with numbers for beauty and the legal system for judgment of actions

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posted June 15, 2014 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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She was not as "hawt" as you thought she would be, but her friend is, thusly AG goes with the friend.

Now keep in mind, I'm not saying good nor bad, more than likely that is the way that it is


She is not as attractive to me plus she falsely advertised her looks. Plus it wasn't just about looks.. Me and her friend hit it off more and ended up talking and laughing more, we share the same offbeat sense of humor.

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posted June 15, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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She is not as attractive to me plus she falsely advertised her looks. Plus it wasn't just about looks.. Me and her friend hit it off more and ended up talking and laughing more, we share the same offbeat sense of humor.

AG, keep in mind tho, I'm not criticizing your decision, I understand it and knew pretty much what you'd say so to speak.

It is not a surprise tht ppl put up their most flattering pics, and deciding she is not for you is a sign of maturity and non neediness so for that applause!

You have a sense of humor?

Who knew?

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Have integrity and a person who recognizes it (and is worthy) will come by and knock your socks off.

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AG, keep in mind tho, I'm not criticizing your decision, I understand it and knew pretty much what you'd say so to speak.

It is not a surprise tht ppl put up their most flattering pics, and deciding she is not for you is a sign of maturity and non neediness so for that applause!

You have a sense of humor?

Who knew?


Well yes. But there is a fine line between putting your best self forward and false advertising. Um is that supposed to be sarcasm?

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posted June 15, 2014 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well yes. But there is a fine line between putting your best self forward and false advertising. Um is that supposed to be sarcasm?

"We are not falling for the banana in the tailpipe"

Point being, that is not exactly something I'd hold against a Internet Blind Date (which is what they amount to), if one wishes to play the judging game, is your profile 100% absolutely the truth w/flattering and unflattering pictures?

Before being accused of being a WK and "women can do no wrong" sort, more attempting to suggest that if y'all did not hit it off..great..the pics prolly should be a secondary reason for looking towards her friend

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AG - If I was in your shoes with two men - and this situation happened... I would only date the guy I liked (the friend)... if I thought we were amazingly, strikingly perfect for each other.

If he was just some guy who I thought was attractive... I wouldn't go there because I wouldn't want to cause a dramatic situation or hurt anyone.

The guy in question (the friend) would have to be a guy who really has a strong impact on me - to the extent that I would feel it would be wrong for me to walk away and not pursue what we have, since our connection is that strong.

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I never said I am going to do it. But I would be lying to myself if I said I dont want to be as emotionally reckless as most people are these days, its a ruthless and cutthroat world out there and if you have a conscious and are a team player you are already losing the race, that's just a fact. This is true in every area of life and the dating game is no exception. But in all honesty I doubt I could do it, I just don't have it in me.. If anything I will wait till the girl moves on and "maybe" try pursuing her friend then.


Why exactly do you want to be in a relationship so much, why is it so important to you?

I'm also confused as to why you refer to dating and relationships as a game, or a race, could you clarify?

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Why you didn't like her? Too tall? Too short? Too fat? Too thin? Too pale? Too dark? Too much rouge? Not enough at all?


My intuition tells me that romance between you and her best friend won't last. She's going to disappoint you .. again. You keep chasing for a certain type of woman you know who is not compatible with your views.


Sounds like a bit of an immature and shallow character.

Since when are relationships a game/competition peoples hearts are being played with here

Both those girls should give him a wide berth in my opinion until he grows up a little OR maybe a pep talk may help, maybe they both like you and each other, maybe you could date both. It works for some but not all can handle it...depends on the individual/s I guess.

What does YOUR intuition say? (seperated from your ego of course).....only you can answer your own question at the end of the day. We (the rest of us) only have opinions based on our own experiences that may be different from yours.

No offence ment.

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