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Topic: Freedom of Religion at Work: Satanist Statue Getting Ready to be Placed at Oklahoma’s
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 5169 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 10, 2014 12:48 AM
There’s a saying I’m sure most of you have heard, “Be careful what you wish for.” It’s often aimed at those who seem so passionate about getting their way on a particular issue that they’re unable to see the bigger picture. Take for instance when a monument depicting the Ten Commandments was erected in front of Oklahoma’s Statehouse. Though our Constitution sets up a separation of church and state, they managed to use a “donation loophole” to justify a religious symbol being placed at a government facility. They’re just so clever, aren’t they? Well, in a true example of “two can play that game,” the Satanic Temple went ahead and raised some money of their own to build a statue worshipping Satan that they plan to display on the very same Oklahoma Statehouse. I mean, it’s “freedom of religion,” right? Some people worship Satan, therefore making it a religion. That’s the “status quo” these people set when they start trying to mix religion and politics. It’s not just your religion that gets interjected (unconstitutionally by the way) into government, but everyone’s. If they want to interpret “freedom of religion” in that way, it cannot be just Christianity that gets to reap the benefits. From Vice: The Baphomet, which will stand seven feet tall and be a testament to the glory of the Angel of the Bottomless Pit, would be placed directly beside the sculpture glorifying the laws given to Moses by the Christian God. What can Oklahoma really do? If they reject it, then they’re basically establishing a religion – which is unconstitutional. You can’t be proponents for “freedom of religion,” then tell another religion that they don’t have the rights to that very same “freedom.” Maybe this is why our Founding Fathers seemed to go out of their way to make no mention of Christianity in our Constitution. Religion by itself is a topic that throughout all of humankind has constantly caused conflict. Government is another entity that’s often controversial and confrontational. Usually the more someone (or some group) tries to mix the two, the more they’re trying to control people. Which is exactly what conservatives want. They don’t want a government based on freedom of religion and our Constitution, they want a theocracy where their warped version of Christianity is what controls people’s lives. And even though I’m a Christian, I personally cannot wait to see how Oklahoma handles this Satanic statue. Because if they are true advocates for “freedom of religion” and the freedom to use loopholes in getting around our separation of church and state, then they really have no other choice but to allow it to stand. Though we all know this isn’t about freedom for all religions, just their religion. - See more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/freedom-religion-work-satanist-statue-set-placed-oklahomas-statehouse/#sthash.0EXw5IiB.dpuf[/i] IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 5169 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 10, 2014 12:52 AM
If this is not a legit new source... I will remind myself not to post hastily post articles my acquaintances on facebook shared..IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 4816 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 10, 2014 01:34 AM
It's true, and I like what was said in that article. Beyond the Constitutional issues it's basically a harmless prank that doubles as street theater making commentary. But ultimately it's actually a non-story...though I'd like to have seen some of the reactions there. IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei Moderator Posts: 1121 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2014 07:32 AM
I just hope it inspires more people to advocate the construction of such statues in their own towns around the world Id really like a picture of me sitting in Baphomet's lap... One can dream I guess [Sigh] ------------------ You can't handle my level of Tinfoil! ~ {;,;}
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7416 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted July 10, 2014 11:43 PM
I live here and haven't heard a single word about such a statue, but I do see a plethora of articles about it occurring. Hmmm... Either way, good for Satan. I don't believe in either but I appreciate obstinacy and ruffling feathers (to a point) and think Oklahoma needs a looooooot more of that. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3764 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 11, 2014 12:20 AM
Half wits that do not realize "satan" was very pretty A goats head? thanks for doing my work for me IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8778 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 11, 2014 01:03 AM
Check this out! http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/08/what-did-oklahoma-do-to-incur-the-wrath-o f-satan-and-his-minions/ Here's a better article about the same thing. Old news! http://www.examiner.com/article/oklahoma-city-archbishop-condemns-plan-for-black-mass IP: Logged |
rajji Knowflake Posts: 1481 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted July 11, 2014 01:32 AM
All Religions are being controlled by NWO.It is all about WORSHIP."Religion and politics go hand in hand. Its politics that is used to control religion and thus control the masses. It’s the people who adhere to religion that become the pawns for government control whether they want to realize it or not. The New Age Movement and New World Order go hand in hand. The same cast of characters that dominant the New Age teachings are the same ones helping to create the New World Order on the world chess board. Not just to lead a dictatorial world empire, but to be worshipped as God. You cannot separate politics and religion with the New World Order. Neither can you understand what it really is by ignoring the religious aspect.They proclaim the New World Order is about politics and not religion as they task away at bits and pieces exposing the lies and deceptions of the order. How shocked will they be to find out soon enough that the New World Order is a politicalization of religion and that the two can't and won't be separated." sigh..... IP: Logged |
rajji Knowflake Posts: 1481 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted July 11, 2014 02:28 AM
The most befitting gesture would be to replace the Statue of the 10 commandments with that of the 11 Satanic Commandments. The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked. 2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them. 3. When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there. 4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy. 5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal. 6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved. 7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained. 8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself. 9. Do not harm little children. 10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food. 11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him. This religion looks pretty cool ! Ahem.
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8778 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 11, 2014 08:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35:
Half wits that do not realize "satan" was very pretty A goats head? thanks for doing my work for me
That's not Satan that's Baphomet. Devil worshipers like to lump all the demons together into the goat head, usually. They also give Baphomet characteristics of men, women and goats. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9676 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 12, 2014 05:42 AM
This country has officially started swirling around the toilet bowl.IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 5169 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 12, 2014 05:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: This country has officially started swirling around the toilet bowl.
r u a Christian? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9676 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 12, 2014 07:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: r u a Christian?
Yes. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7025 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 12, 2014 10:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: This country has officially started swirling around the toilet bowl.
Cess pool is blocked up and the turd has floated back up top. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8778 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 12, 2014 11:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: This country has officially started swirling around the toilet bowl.
It's been doing that for a long, long time. If you look at America realistically you wil l discover there have always been challenges it has never been a perfect Utopia. There's just a lot of idealism surrounding America but the reality is in many ways different from the "dream." Still it's a wonderful place to call home if you choose to see the cup as half full instead of empty. IP: Logged |