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Topic: How can life be this unfair?
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aquaguy91
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From: Uranus
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 09, 2014 12:14 AM
  
I don't know if I have mentioned my cousin on here yet so I will fill you in. As you guys already know my dad is serving a 15 year sentence for non-violent drug charges, it was the first time he had ever gotten in trouble with the law. Now back to my cousin.. Over a year ago she was caught selling pills and was arrested, she was bailed out shortly after. Well the cops came looking for her later on because they had a warrant for her arrest. They showed up on my doorstep and asked me where she was and I told them I didn't have a clue. So I called her and handed the cops the phone and they informed her they had a warrant for her arrest and she had 24 hours to turn herself in or she would be considered a fugitive. She agreed to turn herself in but she ended up fleeing to the Nashville area. Here's the kicker.,, while she was a fugitive she helped her brother rob a house and they were both caught and put in jail. She only spent a month and jail. This past december she went to court and only got probation. Well by early january she had already violated her probation by being out after curfew,getting high, and stealing over 2,000 dollars from my uncle's bank account. So she was sent back to jail for a few months and then sent to rehab, ironically it was the same rehab facility my dad was at before he got sent away. Just recently they let her leave for the weekend and she immediately went and got high. When she got back she failed a drug test and was sent back to jail for 30 days. She will get to go back to the rehab facility when she gets out in a few weeks. This may seem messed up but I was furious when I found out about the last part a few days ago. She has already been given a million chances and keeps f*cking up and my dad only got one chance and is locked up in federal prison until 2021. The thing that is so f*cked up about this situation is my cousin is a sociopath and will never change while my dad is basically a decent man who has dealt with demons since he was abused as a child, so my question is how can life be so unfair? When I see so much injustice in the world I can't help but be angry and wonder why things are the way they are.IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 09, 2014 12:44 AM
I've never considered the justice system to be just or fair. To me it's a game, and career criminals learn that which is why it often works out for them better than it does the innocent or someone who made a mistake. They could replace the justice system with a "wheel of justice" that givens a wide variety of outcomes and you get up to 3 spins. I'd consider that at least as fair (while saving time and money) if not more so than what we have right now. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted September 09, 2014 12:56 AM
The cousin messes around with weed only?
What drug was your dad on? Or if he was selling how much, and are you sure that was the first time.I have an uncle that was arrested for smuggling drugs from Mexico but he sure as heck didn't get 15 years, not even 5, and I'd bet it wasn't his first offense.
And later that same uncle stabbed his brother and was jailed for attempted murder.
Again, the sentence was less than 5 years. I seriously don't know.
There's more to your dad's case, yes? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: Uranus
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 09, 2014 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
The cousin messes around with weed only?
What drug was your dad on? Or if he was selling how much, and are you sure that was the first time.I have an uncle that was arrested for smuggling drugs from Mexico but he sure as heck didn't get 15 years, not even 5, and I'd bet it wasn't his first offense.
And later that same uncle stabbed his brother and was jailed for attempted murder.
Again, the sentence was less than 5 years. I seriously don't know.
There's more to your dad's case, yes?
She was dealing pills and heroin. My dad was dealing with meth. The thing with my dad's case was he owned a few hunting rifiles, like 90% of the men in my state. Thanks to the patriot act you are viewed as a terrorist if you happen to own guns when you deal with drugs, which is really stupid imo. My dad was in the wrong obviously but it's bullsh*t that he got that much time for one offense while my cousin has committed multiple felonies in one year's time and keeps getting off easy. She sold pills, she was a fugitive, she was involved in a robbery, she stole more than 2,000 dollars from my uncle's bank account, and she has already violated her probation more than once. Do you not see why i'm a little ticked about this? LolIP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 09, 2014 07:02 PM
Because justice is meted out differently, for example bland Hollywood justice or your Dad`s harsh justice.
It is unfair and makes one angry and depressed that it happens to anyone. So, it behooves me why people risk it by committing a crime. No crime no need for swift and unfair justice. Don`t think I`m cold or unreasonable because I obey the law and take no risks with the merciless justice system. It is NOT worth the risk, period. ------------------
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Faith
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posted September 09, 2014 07:38 PM
What Juni said. Let's not have any illusions about the corrupt prison system. It's a business, it generates slave labor for corporations and profits for the privatized prisons. Absolutely disgusting. Again, AG, so sorry your dad is a victim of injustice.  IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: Uranus
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 09, 2014 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Because justice is meted out differently, for example bland Hollywood justice or your Dad`s harsh justice.
It is unfair and makes one angry and depressed that it happens to anyone. So, it behooves me why people risk it by committing a crime. No crime no need for swift and unfair justice. Don`t think I`m cold or unreasonable because I obey the law and take no risks with the merciless justice system. It is NOT worth the risk, period.
I agree 100% juni and that's why I try extra hard to keep my nose clean. But at the same time I disagree with what our government considers to be crimes quiet a bit. For example.... You know how parents (mothers especially) like taking pictures of their babies? The kind of pictures that they like to show your spouses/ signifigant others to embarass you? Like "look at cute baby aquaguy's naked butt". Well that can get you thrown in prison and labeled a sex offender now if the police find out about it. That's just one example.. The fact is our justice system pretty much does what they want when they want to depending on the mood they are in at the moment. It's not right.IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 5274
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 09, 2014 09:55 PM
You don't have to commit a crime at all to be locked away for a long, long time. Just be at the wrong place at the wrong time, have a cop not like you (or even just bust anyone in a way that's easy so it looks good on his performance review), or have someone frame you which is all too easy (would be even easier if forensics didn't skip so many of the tests). Heck, just having the wrong address accidentally put on a warrant can destroy someone's life. Obeying the law (even when that's possible--sometimes you're breaking the law regardless of what you do) is no protection against harsh "justice." Granted, it's less of a danger, but it's still naive to think that if you have nothing to fear if you've done nothing wrong.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 09, 2014 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
You don't have to commit a crime at all to be locked away for a long, long time. Just be at the wrong place at the wrong time, have a cop not like you (or even just bust anyone in a way that's easy so it looks good on his performance review), or have someone frame you which is all too easy (would be even easier if forensics didn't skip so many of the tests). Heck, just having the wrong address accidentally put on a warrant can destroy someone's life. Obeying the law (even when that's possible--sometimes you're breaking the law regardless of what you do) is no protection against harsh "justice." Granted, it's less of a danger, but it's still naive to think that if you have nothing to fear if you've done nothing wrong.
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Lonake
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posted September 10, 2014 01:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
The fact is our justice system pretty much does what they want when they want to depending on the mood they are in at the moment. It's not right.
Mhmm, like the illegal chokeholds by some of these cops.
Crossing the line for sure.
And I think the baby butt is fairly recent, no? I have no idea but..hmm, it's taking it a bit far but I understand the reasoning. So you're saying, maybe drug selling gang members (gun owners) could be charged as terrorists.
Gun + Drugs = Terrorist..? Do I understand it,,? IP: Logged |
T
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posted September 10, 2014 03:39 AM
editAll the best.  IP: Logged |
T
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posted September 10, 2014 03:58 AM
I hope you and your dad are able to reconnect and have a great relationship when he gets out.  IP: Logged |
juniperb
Moderator Posts: 8509
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2014 07:45 AM
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You don't have to commit a crime at all to be locked away for a long, long time. Just be at the wrong place at the wrong time, have a cop not like you
Absolutely! In this small, town over the years,I have seen it too often. I suspect this small village isn`t much different than AquaG`s.
In my above post, AquaG was speaking of specific crimes and specific times served. I responded to that specifically and it`s good to see the broader "in"justices
spoke of.
Recently, in a neighboring county, a man locked up for 15 yrs for murder & rape was released .
He is borderline autistic, in the neighborhood when it happened and under police duress when he confessed. Slam dunk. Then the county aquired modern forensics, he a new attorney. Opening the case again, they found his DNA was lacking but another "good ole boy" was found. The sheriff`s nephew. Cover up, poor police work, lack of forensics , police brutality or just wrong place, wrong time. 15 yrs of a life lost. ------------------
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9919
From: Uranus
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 10, 2014 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Mhmm, like the illegal chokeholds by some of these cops.
Crossing the line for sure.
And I think the baby butt is fairly recent, no? I have no idea but..hmm, it's taking it a bit far but I understand the reasoning.So you're saying, maybe drug selling gang members (gun owners) could be charged as terrorists.
Gun + Drugs = Terrorist..? Do I understand it,,?
You don't have to be a gang member, if you are dealing with drugs and own a gun/guns you can be viewed as a terrorist under the patriot act if the government chooses to. I just see it as a way for the government to punish people for owning guns without causing all kinds of controversy. You know how conservatives get a hard on over guns and go crazy if they think the government is trying to take their guns but if the government tells the people they are taking guns away from "terrorists" they will get behind it.
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Lonake
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posted September 11, 2014 01:08 AM
Yeah, sounds sketchy to me.
Do you visit your dad?IP: Logged |
Padre35
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From: Asheville, NC, US
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 11, 2014 01:27 AM
Really just boils down to the firearms AG, for the all the rah-rah stuff from the R's, at the end of the day they'd see it as "Heavily armed Meth Dealer in TN" For the cuz, no firearms involved, minor league drug crimes, and like it or not, female, who statistically receive lighter sentences. Where the scale balances is when your father is released, he will be a different man, your cousin more than likely is in for a long stretch dealing with the State. For myself, think the mere possession of a firearm is a very different thing from actually using it and he should not have gotten that much time over it. US leads the world in people incarcerated, far more people than even "repressive" regimes IP: Logged |
Condoowit
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posted September 11, 2014 09:23 PM
So so sorry to hear that your dad is a victim of this insane mandatory minimum sentencing which is destroying families in so many states. I know a family in Florida which was gutted by mandatory minimum sentencing ...any and all discretion has been taken away from judges ... It's disgusting and heartbreaking AG . Go to the FAMM website . Support them . They are fighting for people like your dad. See the profiles of Erik Weyant ...Orville Wollard ... Marissa Alexander ...just to name a few .IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Saturn next to Charmainec
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posted September 20, 2014 05:55 PM
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Randall
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posted September 24, 2014 10:45 PM
Maybe your cousin will change. It's not common, but people do.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 04, 2014 08:05 PM
Hope you feel better.IP: Logged |
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